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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 05:03 AM
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Hispanic Man Dies in Wood Chipper, Racist Freepers Laugh
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1397704/posts

NEW WINDSOR, N.Y. (AP) _ An immigrant from Guatemala was killed Wednesday when he was sucked into a wood chipper while working on a tree-cutting job here, authorities said.

Julio Hernandez, 42, of Highland Mills was working behind a home putting cut pieces of wood into the chipper when the accident happened, said police.


"An immigrant from Guatemala"

They forgot illegal in front of immigrant.

Sure is cheaper than deportation.
22 posted on 05/06/2005 12:05:28 AM PDT by dalereed

Just sucked into a wood chipper Americans don't want to be sucked into ...
23 posted on 05/06/2005 12:10:11 AM PDT by sushiman

Wiil this company that hired illegals be fined or punished in any way ? No way , right ? Great system ...
29 posted on 05/06/2005 12:43:47 AM PDT by sushiman

Oh well, he was just an illegal alien. Probably no taxes paid, OHSHA violated, no workman's comp paid, no insurance to even carry the burial cost. A good time was had by all.
33 posted on 05/06/2005 1:04:20 AM PDT by FastCoyote

A prime example of an illegal alien doing a job that American won't do. Lubricating those shafts and bearings inside of a wood chipper is a tough job with little thanks.
43 posted on 05/06/2005 2:11:38 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan

Hey, maybe we've found a job that Americans *really* don't want to do? ("Wood chipper lubrication specialist"?)
44 posted on 05/06/2005 2:27:35 AM PDT by The Duke

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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 05:06 AM
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1. that is just sick n/t
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 05:13 AM
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3. I don't see why we give these psycho-paths the right to vote.
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LiberallyInclined Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:52 AM
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27. ummm...because this is America?
:eyes:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:21 PM
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39. Hard to believe there isn't a competency requirement for voting.
I'd add a question to that test:

Did you vote for Bush in 2000 and 2004? If, yes, you're too stupid to vote.
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LiberallyInclined Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 02:20 PM
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43. there used to be just that- that's how Rehnquist got started in politics-
hanging around the polling place on sElection day, quizzing illiterate blacks and latinos, to deny them the vote.

in this country, everyone of legal age is supposed to get an equal chance at the ballot box- regardless of intelligence, income, religion, race, sex, or any other way to divide the population.

and that's exactly how it should be...I'm willing to bet that the repugs would love an intelligence test be used to qualify voters- the vast majority of the illiterate and unintelligencia are generally poorer economically as well, and more likely to support the Democratic candidate.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 02:26 PM
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47. Yeah, those intelligence tests would be useless in screening
out the psycho-paths. They'd find a way to ace them. ;-)



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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 05:06 AM
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2. I checked the story ...
... and no mention was made of Mr. Hernandez' status with the INS.

Kinda tells you something about the Freeps, doesn't it?

--p!
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:49 PM
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42. Exactly. I was thinking the same thing. Where did they get "illegal"
:wtf:
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LiberallyInclined Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 02:23 PM
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45. i think it was meant as a joke...
he's from guatemala, and doing manual labour, so he obviously must be illegal. (I'm not saying that- it's what's implied by the 'joke')
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 02:42 PM
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50. But its not funny
those people are sick.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 04:33 PM
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51. But it COULD have been funny
If they had treated it, for instance, like Matcom does, it could have been a laughing-in-the-face-of-death joke.

The "daily grind".

"Watering the tree of Liberty" (from a Jefferson quote).

"The instruction book says nothin' about chipping Guatamalans. Can we get our money back?"

Even a Limbaughtian liberal-bashing gag about recycling.

Nope. They hammered that "illegal alien" trope like it was something they got on sale at Home Depot. Instead of wry humor, they found that small, twisted voice of hatred.

And gave it a megaphone.

--p!
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 04:48 PM
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53. Exactly. I am right with you
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LiberallyInclined Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 04:36 PM
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52. maybe not to you- but you weren't the intended audience anyway.
if there's anything that you find humour in, i'm sure that there are a lot of people who wouldn't think it was.

variety is the spice of life.
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 05:16 AM
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4. Are they stupid?
It's clear they're evil and deranged but why are they whining about the "jobs no Americans want" business? Don't they support Bush? If they voted for Bush they endorsed the practice of importing foreign labor and outsourcing jobs--one specific reason American Conservative gave for not endorsing Bush!

:argh:
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 05:20 AM
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5. The Repugs are really trying to win the Hispanic vote, aren't they?
At least they haven't called the guy Mexican yet...
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 05:24 AM
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6. I am not sure what to say.
Whether he was undocumented or not, that is a horrible way to die. A company hired him and he was doing a job. There is nothing wrong with that so the freepers ripping him for dying on the job are just sick. Hispanic men continue to be the ones that suffer most death and injury in the construction industry than any other person. And this way to die is just horrific.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 05:33 AM
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7. That's the kind of black humor that gets these guys through wars
and hunting accidents without altogether losing their ability to function. Leaves them as psychological walking wounded, but able to kill again.

It's a maladaptive survival trait, if you ask me.

:eyes:
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 11:00 AM
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29. I think it's quite a bit sicker than that
Black humor on the battlefield or in an ambulance or emergency room (where you might also find a lot of black humor) is quite a bit different from vile, racist hatred spewed from an anonymous keyboard about someone who has no connection to them at all.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 11:21 AM
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31. Gets what guys through wars?
If the freepers were interested in war, they should get to the recruiter. The Army missed its quota by 42% last month.

The gutless wonders that vote for Bush apparently have no taste for actually going to war. They only like to watch it on tv.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 06:43 AM
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8. Conservatism is a mental illness
These comments should clear up any doubts that the repugs have deep psychological issues that should warrant better mental health care. I almost feel sorry for them, poor pathetic racists.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:22 PM
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40. Speaking of which - have you seen the title
of Michael Weiner Savage's book, "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder"? Something to that effect.:eyes:
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:17 AM
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9. Aren't they charming? n/t
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:21 AM
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10. Those must be those compassionate Christian conservative values
I hear so much about. :puke:
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:28 AM
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11. these are the same guys who freaked out over pulling the
tube on Schaivo. Culture of life, my ass.

They are some sick bastids, all right.

Now why can't corporate media take this little slice of life and have it represent all Christian Conservatives like they do with some of the more outspoken DU threads?
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LuPeRcALiO Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:38 AM
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12. it was probably murder.
Wood chippers have a zillion safety features to prevent that type of injury so it's likely the guy's employers were having a little fun with their cheap labor.
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:07 AM
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13. You may be right
I hope this is thoroughly investigated.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:09 AM
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14. :^(
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:09 AM
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15. Those replies are disgusting.....
That is why I never go to that site on my own, just catch bits and pieces of it here.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:14 AM
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16. When People Say Was Need To Work With The Opposition
to achieve comproomise, I remember stories like this. They are pigs, fueled by greed and racism. No compromising with that! Fuck them!
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:18 AM
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17. Agreed. There's a whole segment of political loonies out there...
Edited on Fri May-06-05 10:35 AM by Zenlitened
... that we just don't need to waste our breath on.

We don't need to "court their votes" or "seek common ground" with them.

We don't need to worry what they think about what we say or do.

And we sure don't need to plot our own strategy based on how they might react. They'll react like the filth they are, no matter what.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:20 AM
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18. Recommended for Greratest Page
More need to see this. Those people are a disgrace.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:21 AM
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19. Some of those posts sound like sarcasm.
Just sucked into a wood chipper Americans don't want to be sucked into ...
23 posted on 05/06/2005 12:10:11 AM PDT by sushiman

Wiil this company that hired illegals be fined or punished in any way? No way, right ? Great system ...
29 posted on 05/06/2005 12:43:47 AM PDT by sushiman

Oh well, he was just an illegal alien. Probably no taxes paid, OHSHA violated, no workman's comp paid, no insurance to even carry the burial cost. A good time was had by all.
33 posted on 05/06/2005 1:04:20 AM PDT by FastCoyote


As for the other posters, they would be screaming if some white boy from Texas got caught in one of those things and died.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:22 AM
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20. Lot of guys die in chippers up North.
Yet lack of regulation has done nothing to keep this from happening. I'm sorry now that they are hiring immigrants to do this dangerous job. They know it's dangerous. Laughing at this guys death was dispicable.
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Done Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:27 AM
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21. Too bad the guy wasn't brain dead.
The repukes would go out of their way to save him, no wait....he was a fur-in-er.:eyes:
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:29 AM
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22. Culture of life.
:eyes:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:30 AM
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23. these people are unsavable.
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:39 AM
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24. The asshole vote. There it is, ladies and gentlemen.
I used to think that people were all basically the same, and political affilliation reflected nothing more than your opinion on certain economic issues.

I don't believe that anymore. Republicans sell their policies with hatred, fear, and greed- and that means they attract a certain type. They seek out the asshole vote, and they get it.

I can't tell you how many times I've spotted a hardcore Republican in a social setting even though no one was discussing politics. Almost without exception, the biggest assholes turn out to be conservatives.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:46 AM
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25. What goes around comes around...
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:47 AM
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26. Sick fucks
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:56 AM
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28. America - Once again -evidence of the the stupidest people in the world
Why can't we just draft these fuckers and send them to the front lines.

The elimination of sick rednecks like these could only benefit the world.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 11:15 AM
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30. Yeah, well we here at DU would NEVER sound that bad.
As a matter of fact they locked a thread a few days ago here about Laura Ingraham having breast cancer because we are just so warm and understanding.

Free republic was all over it too, just like we are all over this one...

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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 11:24 AM
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32. "Racist" and "Freeper" is redundant. Kinda like "Bush" and "Idiot".
Edited on Fri May-06-05 11:24 AM by Tierra_y_Libertad
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 11:29 AM
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33. Now if it were a pregnant woman
The outcry for the unborn fetus would drown out a million wailing banshees.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 11:30 AM
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34. Freakin Freepers Have No Heart!
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 11:30 AM
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35. kick
Edited on Fri May-06-05 11:32 AM by senseandsensibility
I really hate reading things like this. I brood about this type of cruelty for days, and feel so helpless that I can't do anything about it. However, spreading the word may, in fact, do something about it. We need to shine the light of day on these racists and call them what they are: the chimp's base, his most loyal followers.
Edited to add that I nominated this, and encourage others to, so that more will read it.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 11:35 AM
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36. This really justifies my concern for Lou Dobb's campaign
against ILLEGAL immigration. This has quickly and seamlessly given rise to racism and discrimination. It never seems to get through to people like the Freepers that "Immigrant" does not necessarily equal "Illegal"; but it's not stopping them from making non-WASPs part of the new Whipping Boys Club.
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DARE to HOPE Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 11:38 AM
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37. I went to the freeper site--to be fair, not everyone was so crass...
Some were asking about OSHA standards and proper training, too.

Let us all remember--the power men WANT us to remain divided. I was talking about fundie Christians this morning, and had to back up--they may be up to 25% of the voting block, but most are misled, NOT as wicked as their leadership.
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:02 PM
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38. To be fair, that was one post
And I don't mind being divided from the other knuckleheads on that thread.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:25 PM
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41. Real Life Fargo?? OMG
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 02:22 PM
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44. they are a little racist, ok, ok, a lot racist. but some comics I know
will probably make fun of this also, especially if he did something stupid, like climb up into it to free up a jam or.......
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 02:24 PM
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46. So where's the outrage from the cable talking heads over that
Freeper thread? They've cherry picked statements from DU to show that we're heartless bastards - nobody is pointing out the right wing whackos laughing over someone's very violent death??
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 02:30 PM
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48. I'll be damned if I can figure out why they assume he's an illegal,
There are millions of LEGAL immigrants in this country. Many become citizens by taking a test that I'd venture to guess 95% of these good ole' Amurrikan bubbas couldn't pass if they had the answers tattooed on their shriveled little pencil-dicks.

One of the immigrants that these bozos love so much is the governor of California. I don't hear any of 'em bitching about HIM coming here. Oh! I forgot! He's white. But he sure still doesn't speak English very well...
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 02:33 PM
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49. Do these people call themselves Christians?
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 05:05 PM
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54. We've laughed at worse.
If this were a white guy, and it was posted in the lounge, people would be nominating him for Darwin awards left and right. The only difference is we would not be acknowledging the race card (but we would, likely acknowledge the regional card, i.e. if he were from Texas or the bible belt or something).
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