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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 04:27 PM
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Fundies are wrong if they think Bush is packing the courts with Christian
judges, while it may be obvious to us, they need it to be explained to them, Bush is packing the courts with pro-coporatists. He could care less about the RW religious stuff, that is all a front. He really just wants to make sure that average americans have no rights when battling his corporate buddies.

After looking into some of *'s judical nominees the only thing I could seem to find was that many of them have decided big cases for giant corporations.

The New Freedom Commission is one thing to surely get Americans suing, but why should Bush worry when he has filled the courts with people that will favor him and his proposal.

Red necks have been duped again, and all of us suffer, thanks.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 04:32 PM
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1. this is the first time i have seen this angle looked at
thanks for bringing this up, i hadn't really thought about it that way.
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BamaLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 04:37 PM
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2. Tort Reform
They want to set a limit on what you can recieve in the court of law. Well... if there is no money there... why would the lawyer take the case???

He won't! And we will have no rights and corporate America will have no leash.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 04:43 PM
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3. "Red necks have been duped again, and all of us suffer, thanks."
Paybck time. Next election, lets talk about banning cousin marriage since it is immoral. Rednecks will throw a fit and feel what it is like to have their marriages destroyed. If they want crap, we'll give them crap.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 04:50 PM
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 04:54 PM
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8. Because they are being lied to again by the likes of Frist and Delay
they are being made to think that good christians are being kept from serving on the bench.

If they knew that they are simply screwing themselves over if they ever needed to sue, they wouldn't be so happy.

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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 04:56 PM
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9. The fundies secured the government for this asshole*
Now, after they provided all the manpower, georgie* is blowing them off for his true friends the corporations, have, and have mores. It's kind of like getting sex from someone then ignoring them.
The fundies just aren't going to get their agenda filled after they thought they would.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 04:58 PM
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OilemFirchen Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 04:52 PM
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5. Saw on a blog (mediamatters?):
The real scandal is that Bush has appointed several hundred atheists!

(Subtle one, so don't bite my head off...)
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 04:54 PM
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6. I've said it before. Look at the judges up for nomination...
They have links to the * family, Rove, and other business interests. These people bring money into the * campaign or are good for business friends of the * family.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 04:54 PM
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7. Everybody on the right talks about Congress' "responsibility" to vote
on Bush's judges, "up or down".

But what about Bush's responsibility as President to nominate qualified individuals who won't simply be a mouthpiece for one political philosophy?
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 04:57 PM
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10. Why then are the Fristians up in arms?
Were the other 210 judges or whatever it is all pro-choice? I don't get why the Fristians support corporate fascism. It seems unrelated to their cause, which seems to be Armageddon and the End Times (great name for a rock band eh?).
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 04:59 PM
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13. Because all they see are the two main wedge issues: Abortion/Gay Marriage
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 04:59 PM
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12. Talk to Texans
Bush packed the Texas Supreme Court with "Insurance Companies always win" Judges.

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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 05:07 PM
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15. Not quite
While our state SC is very conservative, some even right wing, it was not packed by Bush. Judges are elected in Texas, and thus the people who voted packed the courts with right wingers.

But yes, the last report I saw said that plaintiffs lost more than 95% of the cases in which the Texas Supreme Court rendered an opinion. That was from 2000 I think, but I doubt those figures have changed much, if at all.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 05:23 PM
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17. I could be wrong
but I understood, the governor appoints new Judges to the SC and then they are voted on later if they should be kept in office.

Is this wrong?
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 05:36 PM
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19. No, we don't have a retention system
We only have appointments in case of a vacancy- as in a resignation from a sitting justice/judge before the term is up. Bush did get to appoint to fill a few vacancies to the SC, but again, it was only because a vacancy was somehow created. That isn't the usual procedure.

Instead, we have a direct election system in which every judge in Texas, from Justice of the Peace to Supreme Court, is chosen by the voters from their first term to last. So it's the "people" who've given us the right wing judges we oh so proudly display for the world. :)
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 05:03 PM
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14. Great point!
Bushco is playing the fundies like a fiddle, getting them all fired up over religiosity and getting them to do a lot of the dirty work and make noise. In reality, their beholden to corporatists only.

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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 05:14 PM
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16. Most of them are of the Christo-Fascist bent
as well as Corporatist. Those are not mutually exclusive clubs, you know. Scalia is the prototype of what the Bush administration wants in a judge- pro-corporate, pro-federalist, anti-privacy, anti-individual rights, and anti-woman.

Scalia never met a corporate regulation he liked, never has seen a plaintiff with standing to sue, and has never even considered that a suspect could be innocent of the crime charged. No thinking required in that kind of black and white, no gray (matter) world.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 05:29 PM
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18. You're right. Bush is FOR multi-national corporations gaining in weatlh.
Edited on Mon May-09-05 05:54 PM by undeterred
He is not FOR America or born-again Christians or the sacredness of all life or the expansion of democracy.

And he's not AGAINST terrorism as long as he can use it to his own advantage in setting policy.

Bush is FOR multi-national corporations gaining in wealth. That's all.
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