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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 11:23 PM
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If the climate is changing, where do you buy property?
It's late, and maybe I am just thinking too much.
It would seem DC and NYC will be underwater...the same with alot of Florida. California is due for a major earthquake. The NE requires too much fuel to heat.
The SW has water issues.
Would SC, GA and NC be the best places in the future? Inland, of course.
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 11:25 PM
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1. The Northeast will be a lot warmer
farmland in Canada is probably your best bet--our midwest will become a dustbowl.
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 11:34 PM
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4. I was thinking Canada will be too cold, and fuel to heat non-existant
Correct me if I am wrong.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 12:03 AM
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16. The Manitoban government is assuming it will get hotter.
And the growing season longer, so that with an abundance of hydro-electricity, it is well positioned for a warmer climate.

No opinion myself.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 12:52 AM
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20. 300 billion barrels worth of oil sands
rapidly becoming economically viable as sources of petroleum due to the upward drift of oil prices.

Lots of fuel to heat with in Canada if the sit hits the fan. Of course your former countrymen to the south, being the wellknown inveterate and remorseless aggression monkeys that we are, may come to steal all your oil sands and visit demockracy upon you.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 11:28 PM
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2. It all depends on the shifting weather patterns.
Edited on Sat May-14-05 11:29 PM by RC
What is wet now, may become desert in a few years and the reverse may also be true.
It is the middle of May and we had snow this morning. It is normally in the 70's by now.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 11:33 PM
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3. global warming
The UK is expected to become more like Siberia as the Gulf Stream shifts.
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 11:38 PM
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5. I was reading about that...
I would think the Brits might be wanting to buy property here....the question is where.
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 11:39 PM
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6. Not Florida
the hot water of the coast will be generating more hurricanes for that state.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 11:45 PM
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7. I wouldn't buy in SC!
It's sweltering hot there and full of swamps. Property values suck with the exception of certain beach areas and Charleston. SC is very depressing, IMO. There are huge pockets of economic depression and LOADS of Republicans.

The mountains of NC are beautiful and you can still get property reasonably priced. Asheville is a liberal area. You'll see more appreciation there than you will in SC. Or, the RTP area is a safe investment. The RDU (RTP) area is two hours from the beaches and three hours from the mountains. (I live in the RTP area). Again, prices are still reasonable in most neighborhoods. NC has a Dem controlled legislature and Dem governor.

Atlanta is pricier but if you are interested in a city environment, it has more of that than anywhere in NC. Granted it's very hot there, but it's a pretty nice small city. I wouldn't venture too far out from Atlanta though.

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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 11:57 PM
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13. I am thinking long-term here, for my daughter's sake
If weather patterns begin to change, the economics could change rapidly.
I am also in the RTP area, and wonder if investing here or other places would be better. Right now, the Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill area is not appreciating double digits, so you can buy property without having to outbid someone.
Is there somewhere else better?
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 11:45 PM
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8. What will happen to NC, SC and GA? Do you buy there?
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toska Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 11:46 PM
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9. Good question
I was just discussing this with my wife today. If the Gulf Stream stops, it could get alot colder in the northern state and trigger an ice age. If the permafrost melts and releases the pockets of methane gas that it holds, it could cause runaway global warming.

Either way we are screwed. So do you move north or south?
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 11:48 PM
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10. Warm Springs, Georgia area
Land is cheap, and you're an hour's drive from Atlanta. Put up an antenna and pick up 20 TV stations and 60 radio stations from Atlanta, Columbus, Macon, and others. Get Direct TV for $35.00 a month. Housing is cheap. Four hours from the Gulf beaches and four hours from the mountains of North Carolina. Just a few minutes from I-85. Grow your own food. FDR's Little White House is there. No traffic jams and no pollution. 50-60 degree weather in the winter, and the summers are not as bad as you might think - usually 85-93. Cheap electricity.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 11:52 PM
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11. I hear the moon is nice this time of year.
Seriously. And soon it's going to be the only place in the neighborhood you can reasonably mind your own business and live your own damn life--- without being hectored to death by some variation or permutation of Planet Earth's God Squad Jihad.
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CabalPowered Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 11:52 PM
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12. Anywhere with geothermal would be my pref...
Although Red as Rocket, Idaho has excellent geothermal resources.
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BamaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 12:01 AM
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14. Not any farther south than me lol
I'm about 70 miles north of the Fl panhandle. Very mild winters, very hot summers. Usually. It's been incredibly mild this year. Of course, there are the hurricanes lol. I'm from Atlanta. You could never pay me enough money to move home lol. (Macon or Columbus area maybe.) There are too damned many ppl up there now. If you had told me I would feel this way 10 years ago I would have thought you were nuts lol.
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 12:03 AM
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15. Glad to see that I was not the only one not knowing where to go
I was just thinking future...so buying land was something I was thinking of doing. Red and blue might not be a factor when this comes about, so I was not taking that into consideration. I am thinking 20 years out at least. The southeast is sunny, so solar would work, if they perfect that technology.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 12:05 AM
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17. i'm in a sweet spot right now
6 blocks from lake michigan. looking forward to my private beach.
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 12:41 AM
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18. So where is the BEST place to buy property? Think 20 yrs out...
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 12:43 AM
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19. Maybe Crawford will be underwater.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 01:08 AM
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21. It's not climate change but peak oil you should be worried about
That pretty much rules out the southeast- Kunstler forsees a nightmare there- as do I. Not the culture to be in when the economic consequences hit the fan.

Parts of the Northeast and the Northwest are likely to be the more stable places to live- and have the added advantage of plentiful water and abundant farmland.
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 01:13 AM
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22. Peak oil and the northeast don't seem to mesh
How would you heat your home?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 08:20 AM
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23. Same way people heated it a century ago...
Edited on Sun May-15-05 08:21 AM by depakid
Transportation, food and water are a bit more important than heat.

Note that I'm talking about sustainable communities in the Northeast- not New Yok City.
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