IDEA On why this BuShi* continues

[rigel99]

I heard Conyers say the dems did not start impeachment proceedings because they did not have majority (but in last Bolton incidents it's clear there are VERY DISGRUNTLED republicans).

I believe we are in this situation of continued evidence of criminal behaviour by Bush and Cheney and we need 3 groups to start aggressive proceedings towards impeachment:

1. we need justice dept. folks to start investigating
2. we need secret service/CIA/FBI to collaborate on investigating
3. We need Democrats to start impeachment proceedings (call for his impeachment)

PREMISE?

The lie about WMD and the justification for war. Lying to congress is an impeachable offense.

SO LET'S GET ON WITH GETTING W OUT OF OFFICE AND we can figure out what to do with Cheney later...

[sandnsea]

1. Belief in "Goodness"

My take:

Where’s the outrage over a President who intended to wage war from the first days of assuming power?

Liberals have spent the last two years anguishing over the lack of public outcry at the lies and schemes that took us into war. The recent bombshell from the Downing Street Memo, that war had been decided in the summer of 2002, has not generated a peep in the mainstream media. Why, they howl, why?? It’s sad, and ironic, because the answer is at the very roots of liberalism. It is the age-old fight between those who wish to make America truly good, and those who are satisfied with the appearance of good.

Goodness. It is the core belief of every American. We invented self-rule. We freed the slaves. We gave defeated Indians sovereign status and a hundred years of economic assistance. We paid Mexico for land we had won in a war. We liberated whole continents, turned them over to their people, and helped them rebuild. We went toe-to-toe with the Soviets, brought down the Berlin Wall and ended the Cold War. When people want to be free, call on America and we are there. Oh yes, we are brimming with Goodness.

With a benevolent history such as this, what IS the problem with overthrowing a tyrannical dictator anyway? Iraqi’s are voting. Women will have education and financial independence. Oppression based on religious and political affiliation will end. Laws will be written ensuring freedom and justice for all. Iraq will reap the rewards of American Goodness for generations. Silly liberals, it is time for a celebration! Why would you want to muddy up all this Goodness with nonsensical semantics about how or why yet another country was lifted from under the thumb of a tyrannical dictator?

Liberals should truly not be surprised, or even disheartened or discouraged. Our entire history is checkered with wars of aggression, barely disguised as self-defense. Indian Wars. Mexican-American War. Spanish-American War. Philippine War. Vietnam. The appropriate response to the Iraq War would literally require the entire country to undergo a death-bed conversion. It is a tall order, one that our most esteemed clerics and orators have been unable to achieve.

George Washington said, “My first wish is to see this plague of mankind, war, banished from the earth.” And yet, since war is most often cloaked in some phony sense of Goodness, is it any wonder that wars continue.

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=870

[knowbody0]

2. george and dick

make nixon look like a pope.
george and dick make democrats look impotent.

i agree with you. it is time to stand up