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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 11:54 PM
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GOP Aides Say New Patriot Act Helps Bush
The Patriot Act, is an act that virtually allows every single American citizen to have their lives permanently or indefinitely monitored without knowing it or legally having to ever know about it.

In addition, there is no recourse to prosecute anyone, because it is difficult if not impossible to provide proper proof to show that one is being monitored.

The government and the intelligence communities are immune from any responsibility in any illegally monitoring and/or 'stalking' of individuals, which is essentially what is being done to many innocent Americans in the guise of 'terrorism'.

Unless someone has experience and extensive knowledge and expertise in the latest counter sweeping technical devices to alert themselves to such an illegal search, no one will know they are being monitored.

More importantly, even if a citizen realizes and knows for a fact they are being monitored illegally, there is virtually no way to prove who is doing it, because there is no tangible way to track the technological invasions.

This is why it is illegal in EVERY realm, and it cuts to the core of our most basic rights as an American citizen and basic human decency.


GOP Aides Say New Patriot Act Obliges Bush

By MARK SHERMAN,
WASHINGTON - The chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee is working on a bill that would renew the Patriot Act and expand government powers in the name of fighting terrorism, letting the FBI subpoena records without permission from a judge or grand jury


But the measure being written by Sen. Pat Roberts (news, bio, voting record), R-Kan., would give the FBI new power to issue administrative subpoenas, which are not reviewed by a judge or grand jury, for quickly obtaining records, electronic data or other evidence in terrorism investigations, according to aides for the GOP majority on the committee who briefed reporters Wednesday.

The administration has sought this power for two years, but so far been rebuffed by lawmakers. It is far from certain that Congress will give the administration everything it wants this year.

Roberts' planned bill also would make it easier for prosecutors to use special court-approved warrants for secret wiretaps and searches of suspected terrorists and spies in criminal cases, the committee aides said.

Opponents of expanding the Patriot Act said Roberts' proposal would amount to an expansive wish list for the administration.

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and other administration officials have been adamant that the expiring provisions become permanent, with few changes.

They also have pushed for the administrative subpoena power, which they say prosecutors already are using in health care fraud and other criminal cases.

Committee aides said the committee planned to meet in private when it considers the bill because the discussions would involve intelligence operations.

Barr said he was distressed that the committee "would do something like this in secret."

Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., the panel's senior Democrat, has not said publicly whether he would support the entire bill that Roberts was working on or seek changes.

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Beacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 11:58 PM
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1. I'm sure it does
Just like the Stamp Act helped George III
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:02 AM
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3. This stamp is a lot more costly, in many ways.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:02 AM
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2. Does bu$h ever help anyone other than bu$h
I've never seen him do help anyone other than himself and his cronies.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:02 AM
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4. Of course it does
Edited on Fri May-20-05 12:03 AM by FreedomAngel82
It doesn't help me any though. I wonder if I'm even a citizen of this country anymore. Clearly not since I will no longer be able to use the Constiution and Bill of Rights.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:43 AM
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5. Our forefathers didn't resign to such anti-American tactics, nor should we
Ive seen your posts FA and you care a great deal.

Please don't resign about such an important issue involving your freedom as an American and livlihood.

Let's work to make things better and more importantly fair, truthful, and Democratic again.

If for anything our kids and all other creatures on this earth that would have to endure a very bleak existence and oppressive regime.

My father just turned thirty when he fought in World War II. He was a doctor in the Phillipines, got a Bronze Star for it, which he never mentioned to me or my brother until we found it after his death. I fight for Democracy for him and his name.

We have to fight for something.

This is wrong what is happening in our country.

It's blatantly unconstitutional. And its ILLEGAL.

It's everything that this country is not.

Are we going to let a few oppress all of us and potentially ruin all of our lives and our future?
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