Photos of Saddam are disgraceful!

[orleans]

and our government is disgraceful for leaking them

and the white house had the audacity to bitch about the newsweek story, blaming newsweek for the violence going on? give me a freakin break! a week later these photos of a high priority prisoner under the supposed best security gets leaked out to rupert murdoch's press and he runs the pics in his washington post and sun.

which not only calls into question the morals of our government (again) but also it's lax security

and i'm sure bush is snickering and yucking it up--getting a real kick out of seeing saddam in his undies--probably reminds him of one of his drunken frat house escapades.

i feel sorry for our country. this administration is shaming it once again--and showing the world what real low-lifes reside in the white house!

[Greybnk48]

1. This whole thing is not only illegal

it's trashy. I am furious about this as well. I now wonder just how low the * administration can go.

[me b zola]

11. It also violates the Geneva Convention

Besides being trashy & cheap, which I agree with you it is, it also violates the Geneva Convention. This is the aspect that has my hair standing on end, because the Pentagon's press release states that the pics MAY violate the Geneva Convention; they know better.

PART I
GENERAL PROVISIONS, Article 3

(c) Outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating and degrading treatment

http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/91.htm


Saddam is a monster of the worst kind, however, the answer in how to deal with him is for us not to become the same kind of monster. The Pentagon knows that they violate the Geneva Convention on a daily basis,and they knowthat these pics are one more example of that, SO STOP LYING RUM-DUMB!!

[flyarm]

18. THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME WE BROKE GENEVA CONVENTION LAWS

remember when we captured Saddam he was paraded in front of cameras..but remember back to when our own soldiers were captured and put on T.V. and the screaming by our government that that broke Geneva convention laws showing them captive on T.V...well we did the same when we captured Saddam and had his mouth open etc..

seems * 's polls are down..so bring out the goodies and remind the mentally deprived religious geeks that their hero * captured saddam..give them a good dose of capture of the non enemy and the pea brains will go into a new allaluia...how sad we have broken all laws all over the world and it takes so little to feed the piss-ants of our country to follow their Messiah!!

[Erika]

2. Murdoch is showing it in the Sun and the NY Post

Yes, Murdoch owns these and Faux/Bushco News and is nothing but a tool/conspirator of the fanatic right wing. It is a shame that Bush has degraded this country by endorsing this in violation of international law.

[true_notes]

3. Did ya see the riots in London?

Yeah, the Muslim community is enraged by the double whap the US has dealt to their people and religion. It's just America's way of telling the world we do not have proper culture training, so be ready for anything.I agree, even though he's a prisoner, privacy shouldn't be one of the things they take away from him.

[Turn CO Blue]

4. Yeah, real CLASSY move by "compassionate" people /sarcasm

[Straight Shooter]

5. Agreed. It's tacky. But bush is from a very lowbrow family.

They have no class. bush also surrounds himself with people who have sophomoric kneejerk infantile actions and reactions. They do not know, and do not care to learn, how civilized people behave. Saddam is/was a tyrant, but Saddam is now a prisoner and therefore certain rules apply. (Remember when bush got all bent out of shape because he was photographed in London, wearing his undershirt?)

I'm sure bush will soon be issuing a lame-a** response, like, "We're going to get to the bottom of this." :eyes:

[bermudat]

6. Our Iraq policy is being directed by adolescent schoolboys.

All major media (really disappointed in Countdown with KO) were yukking it up about the 'tidey whities'. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know he was a sadistic dictator, but are rules going to be followed or not? Outside of the US, more and more hate us. The pasty faced, pot bellied men in charge of foreign policy believe it is better to be feared than loved. However, no matter how bad we think we are, the chickens will come home to roost one day. Every dog has it's day, but a bad dog has two.

[gumby]

7. The United States, OUR country

has been disgraced throughout the world once again.

And look who did it.... Mr. Right Wingnut.

[TahitiNut]

8. The United States is an outlaw nation.

The 'leadership' are war criminals, guilty of crimes against humanity and a breadth and depth of corruption rarely seen in history. This has been the truth I've repeated since the first bomb was dropped on Afghanistan. It is not hyperbole. It is the reality knocking at the door of every citizen, even as they turn up the volume on American Idol to drown out the noise.

[jean]

9. which reminds me - our govt displayed pix of Saddam's sons

dead on slabs (and did we ever hear about the supposed DNA testing done on those bodies?). These people have no shame, no conscience and no limit to what they'll do to get their way.

[OneBlueSky]

10. thank you . . .

it would be nice if this country started to act like a civilized nation . . . maybe start by not torturing human beings, not flushing the Quran, and not releasing photos of prisoners in their skivvies . . .

[foreigncorrespondent]

12. Is there a link...

...for the photos?

As yet I have not seen them, and would like to see what the latest controversy is about.

Thanks in advance. :)

[orleans]

14. i don't know of a link

i looked on the sun website today and it said you had to buy the paper in order to view photos

i didn't look on the new york post site

[leftchick]

16. Here is a link...

I won't post the photo so here is a link to the Daily News story...

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/311543p-266571c.html

[DoYouEverWonder]

19. That is just a picture of a picture

So far they have been very careful not to post the actual pictures on the Internet. I wonder why?

[leftchick]

26. I wonder too

That is all I find at the Yahoo link as well. Though it is much closer..

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/events/iraq/082701iraqplane/im:/050521/photos_wl_afp/050521014855_3e6u6x3w_photo0

[Generic Guy]

13. I have a hard time having any sympathy for SH.

Even though what bush did was wrong.

[Karenina]

15. This issue is NOT about Saddam Hussein.

It IS about the STENCH of the U.S. gub'mint's BEHAVIOUR. :eyes:

[leftchick]

17. Good Lord, this isn't about Saddam

It is about bushco*s lack of tolerance and dignity for Arabs and Muslims. To put it mildly.

:eyes:

[Deja Q]

20. Our country has become tantamount to tabloid trash.

Jerry Springer TV not excepted.

Karma will ultimately have its due.

[Karenina]

22. America the Disgraced

Bush: Worst President Ever?
By Stephen Pizzo, News for Real. Posted May 20, 2005.

http://www.alternet.org/story/22057/

<snip>

President Bush's actions and policies have destroyed America's image as a nation that adheres to a set of core values, such as the rule of law, humane treatment of prisoners, presumed innocence, trial by jury and respect for international laws.


How do I know this? Because the world is telling us so, whenever we care enough to ask.
Positive views of the U.S. in Russia have risen 11 points in the past year. But U.S. favorability ratings in France and Germany are somewhat lower than last year and there has been a larger decline in Great Britain (58 percent now, 70 percent last year). Young people in Great Britain, France, and Germany have more negative views of America than do people in other age groups. An important factor in world opinion about America is the perception that the U.S. acts internationally without taking account of the interests of other nations. Large majorities in every nation surveyed believe that America pays little or no attention to their country's interests in making its foreign policy decisions. This opinion is most prevalent in France (84 percent), Turkey (79 percent) and Jordan (77 percent), but even in Great Britain 61 percent say the U.S. pays little or no attention to British interests. Nice going George. Even Richard Nixon couldn't tarnish America's image that much.

George's Vietnam

Then there's the war that is largely responsible for that drop in our international image. President Bush really screwed this one up. First, everyone not drinking the neocon Kool-Aid tried to warn George not to pull that trigger. Then Army chief of staff, Gen. Shinseki, warned Bush that a war in Iraq would not be the "cake walk" his neocon Rasputin, Paul Wolfowitz, promised. Instead, he warned, we would need a lot of troops in Iraq for long time. For that piece of advice he was first publicly embarrassed by his boss then shown the door, according to The New York Times:

At a Pentagon news conference neither Mr. Rumsfeld nor Mr. Wolfowitz mentioned Gen. Shinseki, the Army chief of staff, by name. But both men were clearly irritated at the general's suggestion that a post-war Iraq might require many more forces than the 100,000 American troops and the tens of thousands of allied forces that are also expected to join a reconstruction effort. "The idea that it would take several hundred thousand U.S. forces I think is far off the mark," Mr. Rumsfeld said.

(more at link)

http://www.alternet.org/story/22057/

[orpupilofnature57]

21. Shrubs legacy will show exploitation, expedience, fast food logic.

[Paul B UK]

23. Saddam photos

I find The Sun to be the worst of all our newspapers - and, don't worry, there's plenty of competition for that particular award.

[lanlady]

24. faux outrage from a faux president

The only thing he's mad about is that this time he can't blame Newsweek.

Let's see if Scottie lectures Murdoch at the next press gaggle about what he should or shouldn't publish. but I'm not holding my breath.

[bbgrunt]

25. leaked by high officials......

Outrageous, yes. But why? Are they trying to instigate something here?

[DoYouEverWonder]

27. Bingo

Yep, Bush needs a distraction and he wants to get his Armageddon on.

[DoYouEverWonder]

28. Damn, if I have a body like that when I'm 70

you can flash pictures of it all around the world if you want.

[Inland]

30. Yeah, Saddam's looking good.

I think he lost a lot of weight on the run and probably gets an exercise room. He probably has LESS stress than he did before, since he is probably safer in custody than he was as President of Iraq.

And lucky him, his undies looked clean.

[DoYouEverWonder]

31. Since he supposedly does his own laundry

I wonder how he gets them so white?

[orleans]

29. too late to edit: meant to say new york post & the sun

(not washington post)ran the pictures