Two God people showed up at my door this morning.

[pscot]

Said they wanted to talk to me about Jesus. "Not around here," I said. "Get off my porch before I turn the dogs loose," I said. I used to patient and quasi-respectful to such fools, explaining that we were not xtians and were not persuadable. But the milk of human kindness done run out. I now regard these evangelicals as my enemies.

[CTLawGuy]

1. I thought you meant pod people....

oops.

[pscot]

3. Come to think of it..

LOL

[China_cat]

2. You're lucky they stayed at the door

We had a group that just walked in without even knocking. Coming face to face with a 117 lb. big black hairy dog with lots of nice white fangs cured them without me having to say a word. But others around here have the same problem...unless your door is locked they just come on in and the police refuse to do anything about it because they're the god squad.

[CTLawGuy]

5. wow, where are you from

where I live, just walking into someone elses house is a no-no.

[China_cat]

15. North Charleston, SC

Where the cops make less than convenience store workers but the city council just gave themselves another raise.

If they're carrying a bible, they're untouchable.

[CTLawGuy]

16. is it true that in the south

that nosing into people's business and asking strangers personal questions is common practice?

[China_cat]

17. Common practice? No. Obligation? Yes.

Thank goodness I'm a transplant.

[CTLawGuy]

19. In 1998, one idiot in MO

came up to my family and me in a Long John Silvers and starting talking about the guy who tried to break into the capitol with a gun. He said that the guy should have "gone to the white house instead". We just stared at him in silence and he got embarassed and went away.

though if you transported my dad in 2005 back to 1998, he would have ripped the guy's head off.

[FreedomAngel82]

58. I've never had the problem

I live in Tennessee and never had the problem. We used to live in North Carolina from late 1981 or so till 1987. I don't remember my Mom telling any stories of any problems. We've never had any problems here. With my church in the past we've done door knocking on a Saturday and they leave lit in the mailbox.

[ridgerunner]

74. you might not want to leave lit in a mailbox

Can a flyer/envelope be put it in someone else's mailbox without being mailed? What if a stamp was placed on it?



Postage must go through the Postal Service™ and be delivered for it to be valid postage and therefore acceptable in the mail receptacle. A flyer cannot be placed in a mailbox after putting a stamp on it unless the item was actually mailed.

"No part of a mail receptacle may be used to deliver any matter not bearing postage, including items or matter placed upon, supported by, attached to, hung from, or inserted into a mail receptacle. Any mailable matter not bearing postage and found as described above is subject to the same postage as would be paid if it were carried by mail."

The key to this statement is in the term "postage" which is defined as: payment for a delivery service that is affixed or imprinted to a mailpiece, usually in the form of a postage stamp, permit imprint, or meter impression.

http://hdusps.esecurecare.net/cgi-bin/hdusps.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2944&p_created=1065569386&p_sid=587nr4Gh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MjMmcF9wcm9kX2x2bDE9NTMmcF9wcm9kX2x2bDI9NjQmcF9wYWdlPTE*&p_li=

[noamnety]

24. no kidding

If they walked in here, I'd be reporting a home invasion and pressing charges.

Talking about jesus is a great cover for when someone turns out to be home, if their real intent is burglary.

[spanone]

72. If you are in Florida, shoot first then ask questions...

[Wind Dancer]

95. Amazing, isn't it? n/t

[pscot]

6. I would have asked 'em in

but the dirt in my back yard has a lot of clay in it, and I would have been all afternoon digging two graves.

[Lars39]

41. lol

:D

[Mr_Spock]

51. You're a funny bastard

I hear ya though - I'm losing patience with these fucking psychos.

[Massacure]

7. I take it you don't live in Florida?

With that new law Florida just passed you'd pretty much be able to shoot them without penalty if they walked in your house without knocking.

[paparush]

48. Interesting Point...

Jeb's law may turn out to be the bane of Evangelicals (and Jehova Witnesses)

[Maestro]

91. We already have that here in Texas

I am just waiting for another ultra conservative running for the school board to just barge in. ;)

[in_cog_ni_to]

9. Walking in someone's house, uninvited, is very dangerous!

They could get shot! AND it would be legal because they're inside your house.

[BR_Parkway]

21. Even more evidence of "persecuting Christians" - please don't

shoot to kill, we can't take any more of the media blitz. The only phrase I hear more of coming out of the TV is "upordownvote" and I'm sick of both!

[tx_dem41]

26. I must have missed the part where they were IN the house.

:shrug:

[thebigidea]

44. yes, apparently you've missed reading the post it was replying to

[tx_dem41]

62. D'oh...need. coffee...badly!

Mea culpa.

[in_cog_ni_to]

49. I was responding to post #2.

Someone walked into THEIR house, not the OP's.

[corbett]

23. Let's Seem Them Try That In Florida

The First Brother's rubber stamps in the Florida legislature passed a "Force With Force" law which now makes it legal in the Sunshine State to kill anyone who makes you feel threatened. Yep, it's the law. It's deplorable legislation but if anyone tried that with me, I might be tempted to rethink my position.

http://www.theocracywatch.org/filibuster.htm

[Yupster]

39. I occasionally get a pair of Morman

young men in white shirts knock on my door.

I always am polite, offer them a drink and a chance to use the restroom, but tell them I am not interested in changing my religion.

I am currently a United Methodist.

One of the most imposing verses of the New Testament is when Jesus tells the disciples that they will go to heaven or hell because when he was hungry they either fed him or let him go hungry. The disciples querried him on when they ever saw Jesus hungry or naked or thirsty, and he told them that what you do to the least of my brothers, you do to me.

That's why I give to people asking for money or other help, and that's why I offer a drink to people at my door whether I agree with them or not.

[thebaghwan]

47. I always thought that verse about So as you have done it unto the least of

these; so have you done it unto to me was one of the great teaching of Christianity. Unfortunately, it is totally lost on the right wing fundies now a days.

[SmokingJacket]

96. Hmm... interesting tactic!

"You can come in if you have a beer with me -- I hate to drink alone!"

(I know you just meant a drink, not an alcoholic one... but you got me thinking.)

I give my time, attention, and money to people who genuinely want my help. But I have no time for those who want to sell me something or change my religion.

It irritates me that they exploit people's natural kindness to further the aims of their church.

[HeeBGBz]

45. They deserve to be bitten

Let loose the hounds!

[China_cat]

70. The one in the middle is the one they faced

[roguevalley]

59. that's when you pull a gun

[CTLawGuy]

4. you should have said

"I'm sorry I'm in the middle of performing an abortion for a newly-married lesbian couple who just got done burning the american flag."

[pscot]

8. Funny

There are lesbian couples living on either side of us.

[Hand]

11. Ha! Wonder how the god squad felt meeting them! nt

[mitchtv]

82. isn't that" illegal alien", newly married lesbian couple?

hahahaha

[ashling]

10. A housemate of mine in law school

once answered the door to an attractive (somewhat) young evangelical female totally in his - well, he was nude. He said he was very interested in theology and invited her in.

She remained unconverted.

:bounce:

[CTLawGuy]

13. woah

stand down! Sit boy! Sit!

Seriously, he could have gotten her... fundies are total hypocrites...

I bet even shakers secretly have sex.

[Democrats_win]

12. Too bad, they're still in our lives--they're lobbying the government!

We can't really tell them to get lost because, in a way, they're part of the invisible hand of right wing government. You should have told them to get off their high horses and look at what their religion is doing to our country, look at the hypocrisy, the lies, the death toll.

Unless, they were Jehovah's Witnesses who are the only honest evangelicals. With them, although they are pests, what you see is what you get. Once they're gone, they're gone. But every other single evangelical is working at this moment in secret to gain more power. That is why I'm against those evangelicals. Jehovah's Witnesses are like Mockingbirds--you never want to harm them.

[sakabatou]

14. I had the same thing happen to me.

"Would you like to join our Church, uh... Mr. K___?"

sakabatou points to sign with his family name on it.

"Does my last name mean anything to you?"

The two look at the name again. "Nope," one replies.

I then shut the door.
--------------------------

On another venture, I used a very raspy voice and only spoke in Japanese. The thought I was possessed. They ran away yelling.

:evilgrin:

[Warpy]

18. The milk of human kindness has soured here, as well,

but I'm polite enough to say "no thank you" and leave it at that. If a foot gets stuck in the door and they look like they're working on a quota of souls to Jesus and money in their collection plate, I get downright nasty.

[sojourner]

20. At the risk of being taken wrong,

I'll just ask one thing. Were they Jehovah's Witnesses? If so, please recognize that they have NO lobby in congress. They don't vote. They consider getting involved in politics becoming a part of the world. They knock on your door - yes - and try earnestly to persuade you to their viewpoint - yes - but they also want to "live and let live". And, they don't go to war. Prison, yes...war, no. A polite "no thanks" accompanied by a closed door (to stop any last minute attempts to engage you further) will probably suffice.

Fundamental Xtians etc. are not the same, and its not really the fault of the JWs that Pat Robertson, Jim Dobson, etc. are giving ALL Christians a black eye. (Incidentally, those fundies view JWs as "spawn of the devil"). So next time maybe you could make sure of who you're throwing off your porch. Just a suggestion. And just so you know, I would be really inclined to let my dogs loose on any others.

[corkhead]

28. this may sound a bit militant

but I condone being rude to all of them; they are uninvited visitors to my private property. Maybe they need to grow a pair and stand up for their hijacked religion and take it back from the theofacists if they want to be treated better by me.

[sojourner]

38. I respect your right to choose your response

to uninvited strangers at your door. What I'm trying to say, not as a matter of "defending" any faith, but as a way of making clear that some people actually live their faith - and in the case of Jehovah's Witnesses they DON'T - WON'T - get involved in politics. Has nothing to do with growing "a pair" or anything else...they are thrown into jail/prisons all 'round the world because of the theofacists. Still won't do anything different than their faith dictates.

My respect for them comes from the fact that at least they are content to let me live my life in harmony with my own beliefs, even if they want to win me over - they don't want to interfere with my right to choose my way of life, or shove theirs down my throat.
Unlike the bastards raising cain all over the place right now!

[Arugula Latte]

42. Welcome to DU, Corkhead!

:hi:

:toast:

I like your take on this.

[Ladyhawk]

43. Sorry. Can't stand JWs, either.

I got to know one pretty well online and he couldn't think for himself if his life depended on it. Yeah, they don't get involved in politics. They don't even vote and that is irresponsible as hell. The JW I knew was all geared up for armageddon. Woohoo! The end of the world...what a ride. What? Do something to prevent it? You can't prevent the will of Jehovah!

I am very much disgusted by door-to-door proselytization of any type. Two JWs showed up the morning of my father's funeral. I was NOT amused.

:puke:

However, I am not the rude type. I just tell them I'm not interested. I wanted to be obnoxious on the morning of my father's funeral because the timing could not have been worse.

Like most pests, JWs will go away if you ignore them.

[mtnsnake]

61. At least they're trying to further their cause by direct face to face

confrontation and polite persuation, unlike most of us who are content to piss and moan among ourselves over the computer.

At least give the JW's credit for that.

[Baconfoot]

78. I will respect JWs when they stop trying to get kids to leave college

The JWs don't want people getting anything but a JW shmeducation.
A group of them have a table set up on campus. I would mind them more if they appeared to be at all successful in their attempts to draw unsuspecting students into the JW and thus, eventually, away from thier schooling.

They don't REALLY want to live and let live either... not unless that includes shunning your own children and forcing them to become homeless if they have sex before getting married. A more accurate motto for them would be, "live and let non-converts suffer and starve."

They are not benign.

However, even though they are not benign the one should still be polite in getting them off one's doorstep. That's just how you should treat people, whether they starve their own disobedient children deliberately or not.

[sojourner]

87. Actually, I guess I didn't mean to infer

(or even directly state) that they are "benign". Their beliefs are their own, like yours and mine. Consequently they make different choices than you or I might make. I might not like it, but they have the right to live the way they want.

Since the original post suggested that religious folk at the door represent the right-wing Xtians who have hijacked the government, my post was intended to point out that this is not true. I don't think we can paint people of faith with such a wide brush.

Further, I was hoping to advocate a polite response to people - because as you say, it's just the way one behaves.

[ray of light]

83. I agree with you.

You can't paint all religious people with the same brush. In fact, why not print up the piece from the Calvin College and say, "These are the Christian ideas that Jesus would approve of and these are the ideas which I support."

Frankly, I believe we have to "convert" people one at a time and since they came to your door, that was a chance for you to say, "Thank you for your views, but HERE's what I WILL believe."

[sojourner]

85. ummm...

respectfully, gotta tell you that any attempt to talk to religious people at your door is futile. You'll end up feeling harrassed - because if you talk with them they'll take it as a sign of interest and will redouble their efforts.

Better to just politely excuse yourself and CLOSE (no need to slam) the door.

I agree that converting people happens one person at a time, but probably not going to happen in the "doorway".

[KitSileya]

92. That they have no lobby in congress holds no relevance for me,

for they themselves have chosen it. They have not been denied enfranchisement. They choose not to do their civic duty, therefore they have no voice, and I have just as little sympathy with them as I do with everyone else who doesn't vote. They gain symapthy for being pacifist, however. And for actually standing by their beliefs, and taking the knocks that entails (including at one time and place, going to concentration camps.) That is impressive. But their protection of paedophiles lose them points. So all in all - I think the original posters have as much right to sic the dog on JW as any others who walk into their house uninvited.

[sojourner]

100. Agree...nobody but nobody should walk into a house uninvited.

Knocking on your door is another matter, IMO.

[Gyre]

22. I applaud you for your direct action!

But learn to distinguish between fundamentalists and evangelicals. They're often not the same breed of cat often with substantial political differences. Ya can't go around hating everybody. I've tried it, and it sucks.

On the other hand, when it comes to MY porch, I don't want any of em on there either. :thumbsup:

Gyre

[DURHAM D]

27. Please explain the distinction you are making between

fundamentalists and evangelicals and their political differences.

[pscot]

30. I would guess there are fundamentalists who keep to themselves

but not many. Their holy book tells christians to go out and spread the good news. That makes every christian who believes his book a potential evangelist who may some day show up at my door or yours. It's their christian duty. What an apalling notion.

[DURHAM D]

31. Sorry, but I don't think there is a practical difference today

between the two.

[skoppa]

25. I tend to treat them the same way I do telemarketers (spelling?).

[Spazito]

29. I have to admit to an experience similar to yours recently

Normally, when I get those visitors on my doorstep, I am polite and courteous in explaining why I am not interested but it has become increasingly more difficult due to the US religious right trying to interfere in Canada on the issues of abortion and same sex marriage.

This last time, when I opened my door to find two people standing there with the prerequisite 'tracts', I did not let them get beyond two words to me before saying I was not interested in ANYTHING they might have to say. I did, however, say Goodbye before slamming the door, lol.

[pscot]

32. You guys are fair game.

Canada is, after all, one of the dark places of the earth. :)

[pretzel4gore]

33. say ' i worship john kerry; he's the Holy ONE!

and suggest yall say a pray to lord kerry (lol)..that'll send em packing!

[mopaul]

34. i don't suffer fools either

been there, done that. i too used to let them and talk. it's pointless.

[salin]

35. I think the next time I will say something like:

When the media spokesperson for the fundamentalist evangelical movement start speaking like Christ, rather than speaking and acting in ways that directly go against the teachings of Christ... then I might listen to what you have to say. But right now, your movement seems to have been taken over by idolators, adulturers, demagogues and Pharasies... if I were you I would be tending to the flock right about now... :shrug:

[Mnemosyne]

108. I give them an article I printed out, "Bush voting Christians Have Lost

Their Souls"part of the time. The rest I just ask if they voted for *, and when they say smile and say yes, I tell them to get off my property. I'm not rude, I smile!

[bvar22]

36. Tell them you have...

...a rattlesnake in the basement, and you want them to come in and show you that snake handling thing.

[RobbinsdaleDem]

37. When I see them coming...

...I turn off the lights and don't answer the door. I have lost all patience with these people, and I just don't want to deal with them anymore.

[DemBones DemBones]

40. You made two missionaries' day! They'll have a grand time for WEEKS

telling how some misguided soul threatened to set the dogs on them. Anyone who's ever known JWs well will tell you this. Being threatened makes them feel great, like martyrs.

Just don't answer the door when you see it's JWs, Mormons, or the like. If you accidentally open the door to them, you can just say, "I'm not interested and don't have any time to discuss it," and close the door before they can say another word. It often helps if you ask them to take you off their calling list, too. It won't prevent different people from other churches from showing up but it should get rid of that particular pair.

Don't slam the door. Don't answer the door naked. Don't swear at them. Don't threaten them, or turn the hose on them. UNLESS, of course, you want to make them happy.

[GRLMGC]

46. Thats kinda mean

but pretty funny. I love your thread title, hahaha.

[BigBearJohn]

50. I just say, "come on in.. I was just finishing cleaning my gun"

[Mr_Spock]

52. A God person used to be a "Good" person

Now they are psychotic freaks that you just wanna kick into the gutter...

[TimeChaser]

53. I'd still love to answer the door in my black cloak with...

... my staff wand and such.

Or I could go the geeky way and make Final Fantasy VII Jehova/"Jenova" jokes until they leave.

[Trajan]

54. I am an Atheist, and a Secular Humanist ...

I would never have treated them like that ....

I have engaged most doorknockers with lively discussions of the bible, early christian history, and christological arguments .... 'Nature of God' stuff .... One might wonder who is evangelizing who ....

If I have time and the gumption, I will engage them .... otherwise a polite 'no thank you' is in order ....

[Walt Starr]

86. Civility died when the Reichwingnuts impeached Clinton over a blowjob

Rudeness to these assholes is the order of the day. Civility be damned.

[Tansy_Gold]

110. I'm with you on that one, Walt

We have lots of Southern Baptists and Mormons, fewer (but still plenty) Jehovah's Witnesses in my neck of the desert.

We used to get a ring of the doorbell about once a month from one or another of them, even when I had a big sign on the door that said "DAY SLEEPER -- PLEASE DO NOT RING BELL." No matter how often we told them we weren't interested, they'd be back in a few weeks.

So I finally started getting rude. I'd tell them I'm an atheist and to get their shit off my porch. I'd tell them to remove our address from their list and never come back. I'd slam the door in their faces, hoping they'd get the hint and not come back.

And if I just didn't answer the door, they'd leave their Watchtowers or whatever other bible tract they had in hand, and then they'd come back.

So I started threatening to call the police, have them arrested, and sue their church for harassment, invasion of privacy, trespass, and disturbing my peaceful enjoyment of my private property.

Let them be martyrs, I don't care, so long as they leave me the hell alone.

[alittlelark]

55. I listen politely for a few seconds and then go into my BFEE

speal...I can talk them down quite easily...( thanks DU!). Just go on and on and on and on... give them some flyers you have and keep talking.

It works quite well.

[spacelady]

56. "You've Got The Wrong Address." nt

[Darkhawk32]

57. I had a Jehovah's Witness come to my door this morning....

I'm thinking about debating him about his possible political leanings if he comes back. ;)

[Yupster]

60. If he's a JW

then he doesn't have political leanings, does he?

I thought JW's won't involve themselves in things like voting. It smacks of idolatry to them. They won't even root for sports teams for the same reason.

[Darkhawk32]

71. With today's world, I'd bet they vote Republican. n/t

[sojourner]

73. They DON'T vote....for anyone.

And if they could I don't think they would vote for forcing their laws on others. They believe strongly in free will.

[hfojvt]

80. they are very anti-war

but I never knew that they will not vote. That smacks of giving power to the unbelievers, but I guess they are not concerned about what happens on this planet. They just evangelize until God, I mean Jehovah, takes care of everything. They are very activist about contacting teachers regarding their children's participation in school activities.

[Carolab]

63. The last time they came to my door I said I was Jewish.

Then they suggested that we could all still share values. So I suggested that we share the value of not fighting religious wars. They smiled nervously, nodded and left.

[Logansquare]

89. I tried that one once

and they replied eagerly "Our Lord was Jewish, too!" I said "Yeah, and you see what they did to HIM."

[KitSileya]

94. LOL Good repartee!

n/t

[Carolab]

104. LOL. I once said that Jesus was a Jew to a Jew and he replied:

"Well said, Christian!" :shrug:

[rumpel]

64. It's funny they used to come here, too. Maybe the Kerry

and Democratic Underground stickers make them go elsewhere.
But if they were to show up, I would have a few questions for them.

[Bake]

65. They knocked on your door. You told them to get lost.

Is this REALLY worth 60+ posts????

How about REAL shit going on in the world? Like a protest of Army recruiters going on in Times Square? Et fucking cetera???

Big deal. You told two people to get lost. You're a real crusader.

Bake

[Mnemosyne]

109. You replied also. n/t

[R. A. Fuqua]

66. usually when they tell me that they

"want to tell me about Jesus" I just tell them that Jesus and I are already tight--and that he has told me not to trust people who go door to door trying to sell their religion using his name.

That usually shuts them up.

I have nothing against religion--but I would never ever join one that would expect me to go door to door trying to sell religion. What a lousy thing to have to do.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

67. As a fellow traveler, I see the light

:toast:

I feel EXACTLY THE SAME WAY... About anyone bringing their religion to my door and trying to make me buy into some goof-ball, guilt trip.

Joni Mitchell said it best:

Lesson in survival
Spinning out on turns
That gets you tough
Guru books-the bible
Only a reminder
That you’re just not good enough
You need to believe in something
Etc....

I just tell 'em that I can't afford to take on an unemployed, Jewish Carpenter/Mason since I am experiencing the rising cost of fuel. Deficits in the trillions of dollars and getting worse each day. An Illegal war that is killing innocent children, women and men, not to mention our own misled soldiers. My health care costs are a joke. There is no middle class left. The Constitution is being raped daily by the thugs on Capitol Hill. We are being lied to by the media who bends over, grabs their collective ankles and says fuck me. I tell them that I am 48, have seen friends die in Vietnam and Desert Storm, I have a 4 and a 5 year old who will not be able to afford college since, like I said, there is no middle class... I tell the zealots that although our income is in the 6 figures, we can't figure out how to pay our debt, property taxes and house payments and then have money left over to do anything besides LAUGH out loud at the village idiot who is a constant reminder of the fact that the

MISSION IS ACCOMPLISHED!

My ass.

I tell them that although we are college educated liberals who believe that all men are created equally and that we have have fought for civil rights, the new leadership of this country wants to set us back about 75 years.

I feel no guilt in telling these immoral a-holes to look up into the night sky and realize that this planet is BILLIONS of years old... That we are a result of scientific accidents and that god was created by men - not the other way around...

Must I go on here?

In simple terms-

Ha! You are Correct.

Let them drink the kool-aid provided by the Jim Jones's of the world -- :beer:
I must go and watch some mindless TV to make me stop thinking these thoughts.

[evlbstrd]

68. My dog pretty much pevents the necessity

of me yelling at them. And I don't care which sect they work for.

[RebelOne]

69. Same here.

About one Saturday per month, groups of Baptists will comb the streets and go door to door. They pass up my house when they see my Rottweiler at the window.

[troubleinwinter]

75. I interrupt them,

and say, "I'm not interested, thank you. Bye-bye." and close the door. Simple.

[grytpype]

76. Just put one of these on your door, they'll stay away...

[yorkiemommie1]

77. Sign in sidelight of my doorway

NO PREACHING

NO SELLING


NO KIDDING!!!!!!!!!

( i put in a small ok for the scouts and local hs teams )


I watch the preachies walk up to the door, pause, read the sign and backtrack down the driveway, heh, heh.

[otohara]

79. Being Nice Doesn't Work

I had some a few weeks ago - he said he "felt sorry for me". He asked how could I explain all of this (this beautiful earth) - I said frankly I have no idea, but you're not going to convince me that your explanation is the only one.

[sojourner]

84. Really,

a polite "no thanks" accompanied (this part is mandatory) by closing your door WILL work. You will have "been nice" but also left no room for the "hook" to pull you further into discussion.

[otohara]

103. Yes Really!

were you there? No, I didn't think so.

[sojourner]

107. read the post

I wasn't questioning you. Just offering a tried and true strategy. Sorry if you were offended.

[Skittles]

105. LOL sojourner

they just keep coming back; they are relentless

[alfredo]

81. The best way to keep them from your door is to

strip nude, grab a butcher knife, and if you can, an erection would be a nice touch. Answer the door, and don't forget to smile.

[Lannes]

88. I get visits every couple of weeks

One had the balls to show up in his brand new Lexus! I tell them that Im happy with my faith.Drives them nuts because they dont have an answer for it.

[Ioo]

90. I had mormons..

I had a 2 of those young studs come over to my house 2 weeks ago. I live in the middle of nowhere, on a mont in WV...

My dogs barked..

I opened the door, they started their pitch, I looked right at the cutest one, and said "You can come in, your cute. You have to wait out here" and winked.

They were gone, I wonder why?

[Maestro]

93. My mother is very polite

and Christian person, but doesn't like all the ultra reichwing brand of religion. Anyhow, on Christmas no less we had mormons come to our door. Talk about disrespectful and boy did my mom lose it. This was at least 25 years ago.

[Ioo]

97. Not mormons...

I suspect you have Jehovis Witnesses...(sp)

They do not do X-mas, Mormons do, and almost HAVE to be with their family on x-mas.

I was raised mormon, so I know how they work...

[ArkDem]

98. Perhaps, there wasn't a mutual attraction?

[KansDem]

99. "I am Jesus..."

Back in the 1960s, a distant relative who looked a little like Jesus used this response when a couple of Jesus-freaks came around to his house (he had long hair and a beard)

The encounter went something like this:

Jesus-Freaks: "Hello, we want to talk to you about Jesus Christ..."
Relative: "I am Jesus Christ..."

The JFs turned tail and walked away quickly with saying another word...

[Az]

101. What to do?

If you percieve certain trends in society as dangerous to society (and yourself) then how to proceed?

Will shutting yourself off from them and ignoring them achieve anything? Probably not and it might give them all the more ground to work with.

Will confronting them directly achieve anything? Not without spending an aweful lot of time on an individual and slowly bringing them around. Definately not efficient.

So what to do?

What are they up to? They go around trying to bring people into their fold. Do they do this because they like it? You are not the only one that slams doors in their face. That certainly cannot be enjoyable. So its not because they like it.

It is because there are many people in this world that do not have a clear sense of their path in it. It is because they can effect these people and bring them to their way of thinking. If this is true for them then it must be true for other ways of viewing the world. But the evangelical tactics likely seem reprehensible to many. So their way is not our way.

So what to do?

Speak up. Be a positive representitive of your views. Be vocal and outspoken about the positive things in your philosophy. Show people that there is another way. Show them there is hope.

You do not have to match zealots tactics. You only have to put into the society what you hope to get back out of it. You are teaching those around you how you wish to be treated. How they can expect to be treated.

We make the world we live in. Put nothing into it and you will get nothing out of it.

[Strawman]

102. Ever seen the movie Orgazmo?

(Another door, another knock. Elder Young does the knocking this time. The door opens to reveal an elderly woman, nicely dressed)
Elderly Woman: Ohhh.

Joe: Hello ma'am. (looks over his shoulder, then back at the woman) My goodness, you have such an attractive little garden here.

Elderly Woman: Why thank you, young man. I just planted those flowers last week. My, how they grow!

White: (nodding) Yes ma'am. We're from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

Elderly Woman: Oh the Mormons.

Joe: That's right. I'm, I'm Elder Young, and this is Elder White.

Elderly Woman: Well, you two boys can just fuck right off.

Young, White: Ma'am?

Elderly Woman: You heard me. Take that Book of Mormom and shove it so far up your righteous ass that you choke, you soul-soliciting pigfuckers! (satisfied with herself, she closes the door)

http://www.spscriptorium.com/Treats/Orgazmoscript.htm

[eridani]

106. I'd prefer not to make my precinct less civil.

I do doorbelling as a PCO, and don't want to increase the meanness of the world. IMO, guerilla ontology is the proper tactic. I've found that asking them why they don't want to post the Beatitudes in court works wonders. There are more than a few who don't even know what the Beatitudes are--they just believe in the Bible, they don't actually read it. Wouldn't be surprised of some of them think that Pontius the Pilot was at the helm during the Flight into Egypt.