The Zarqawi News

[erpowers]

What do people think about the news that Zarqawi has been wounded? Does anyone think this is a pubicity stunt? Does anyone think that Zarqawi has either been wounded or dead for some time now and this is just coming out to help Bushes ratings? Does anyont think this news will actually stop the violence in Iraq? Finally, it was reported yesterday that about 20 of Zarqawi top people have been captured. How does the government know that these are his top people? How do they know the ranks of these people? It seems as if this will not stop the violence in that even if these people have been captured there will likely be people waiting to take their places.

[TheGunslinger]

1. He must be a superhero

Been killed at least once.

Been "seriously injured" at least twice.

Lost a leg to amputation.

Jumped out of a vehicle and evaded pursuing troops.

Now has a bullet in the lung??



:rofl:

[davhill]

2. Zarqawi is a US invention

The American people always need a single super villain to focus on. When he is out of the picture someone else will be picked to blame everything on.

[KharmaTrain]

3. Blind Leading The Blind

The corporate media makes it seem like the insurgency is all caused by Zarqawi and if he's gone, out comes the bongos and cigars. I think it's all a ruse.

First, all I've ever heard about this guy makes him the perfect strawman for this regime. From being the secret Al Queda connection to Saddam to being this mysterious Comandant Zero of Iraq. Methinks he's just small change in this game.

This regime needs boogie men and names and faces to play their pretend propaganda games and Zarqawi fits that bill perfectly. He's mysterious and as long as he's on the loose, this justifies the continued pillage and plundering of that country. If Zarqawi does go down, expect the insurgency to replace him (if he's really that important) with three Zarqawis and our military/corporate media to make up a new straw man.

[mopaul]

4. he's a batman villian on a fake al qaeda website run by bushco

[Mika]

5. Goldstein

1984 Ch7
http://www.online-literature.com//1984/7/

Goldstein had fled and was hiding no one knew where, and of the others, a few had simply disappeared, while the majority had been executed after spectacular public trials at which they made confession of their crimes. Among the last survivors were three men named Jones, Aaronson, and Rutherford. It must have been in 1965 that these three had been arrested. As often happened, they had vanished for a year or more, so that one did not know whether they were alive or dead, and then had suddenly been brought forth to incriminate themselves in the usual way.

[leesa]

12. Agreed. Both Zarqawi and OBL...fantasies for our control

[ktowntennesseedem]

6. Wounded, killed, captured, whatever--this is what I think it means.

It means that we got lucky. It means that one man is out of commission, at least for a time. And it means that for that time, the group he led will probably struggle among themselves to determine someone to fill the void. But as they do, I don't believe for a minute that they will just cease all activity and call for a truce will they sort things out. I fear they will become more desperate, more dangerous, and more determined to retaliate and exact revenge.

What the Dubya-Regime has never realized (or are just so apathetic that it doesn't matter) is that this quagmire they've stuck us in is like the mythical hydra; chop off one head and two more immediately spring up in its place. And we keep chopping away, hoping to get lucky, wondering why they keep coming back.

[radwriter0555]

8. He never lead any "group". He's never even BEEN in Iraqi. There is NO Iraq

Queda that he's accusd of 'leading'.

He's DEAD. HE's been dead for a couple years.

He is a completely fabricated mythical being that serves the bush regime to pretend is alive so that they have some inane justification for the looting, genocide, pillage and slaughter they perpetrate on a daily basis.

He's the new saddam, the new obl... he's the BOOGIE MAN. He's going to COME AND GET YOU.

[ktowntennesseedem]

24. I agree; meant to add "even if this were true" somewhere in my post.

They portray him as some all-powerful leader who says jump and everyone jumps, no questions asked. And thus they're proclaiming this great event as a huge blow to our enemies and a triumphant victory for Dubya & Co. But even if Zarqawi is in charge of anything, his influence is local and limited at best. And as far as Al Qaida is concerned, his injury/death is either a non-news item (if he is a nobody or just a myth), or it is a reason to seek revenge (if he is the great master-mind we have made him out to be). Either way, this is nothing to celebrate; just a another opportunity for the great Rovian spin-machine to kick into overdrive and deceive the American sheeple once again.

[Mika]

11. The hydra is BushCrimeInc

The only heads that have been cut off are those of the resistance.

[Vogon_Glory]

7. I Think He's Real And I Hope He's Hurting

I believe that Zarqawi is a real person and a real terrorist. I also hope that the news of his wounding is real and that Zarqawi's hurting.

As far as I'm concerned, the side-lining of one of the authors of Iraq's misery, terror, and mayhem is a good thing. I hope Zarqawi's sidelining is permanent. Unfortunately, too many others of the collaborators who made the Iraqi horror possible are alive and well and living in safety.

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[erpowers]

14. Do not Blame Soldier

Do not blame the soldier. You can blame Bush and the people who support this war, but the kid fighting this war are good kids. If they had had a choice we would not have gone to this war. The soldiers are not responsible for what is going on their. you could say that they do not have to do it, but if they do not they will flush their careers and possibly their lives down the toliet. In addition, if they did not do it there would just be a draft. Therefore it is Bush and his supports fault, but not the soldiers fault.

You must realize that there are many soldiers who do not like or respect Bush. A number of soldiers hoped that people would vote him out of office.

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[erpowers]

17. I Disagree

The do have free will, but there are consequesces for them and everyone else. Do you really think Bush would not call for a draft if it was needed? These are good kids. It is the leadership that should be blamed. It was Bush's decision to go to Iraq. He and his supporters or the ones that should be blamed. There is nothing wrong with joining the military. I think these kids joined the military for the right reasons. There leader used the militry for the wrong reason. It is the leader who should be blamed.

[JimmyJazz]

20. I completely disagree. The soldiers can't walk away.

They have families to feed and can't risk spending time in jail. They are performing a service to their country. Once again, from the DU rules:

"Do not post broad-brush smears against US service people. Do not blame the troops for the mistakes of their officers or their Commander-in-Chief. Show the appropriate level of respect to those individuals who have put their own lives on the line to defend this country."

Edited: to remove unwarranted statement.

[Texasgal]

21. That's bullshit.

Bashing the troops will get you nowhere.

Blame the admistration, not troops, they are doing what they are told! Many of them do not agree with what's happening, and there are many of them who truly think that they are on a peace keeping mission.

And... NO, they cannot just LEAVE, many have families to support...HELLO!

Bashing the troops really makes us look bad, you should really retract that statement.

[Zuni]

27. I have very good friends over there. People I grew up with have served

in Iraq. How dare you call them criminals. How dare you. :grr:

I wish you were right here, right now. I would give you a piece of my mind that I can't say on DU :mad:

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[JimmyJazz]

30. The messages were deleted as well they should have been!

Great clean up, mods!

That poster does NOT represent DU. :hug:

[Zuni]

33. I am with you JJ

Give it up for the moderators getting that offensive garbage off here

:applause:

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

34. Hey, Name Removed only said "message deleted". Why so angry?

:shrug:

[JimmyJazz]

19. I'll direct you to this paragraph from the DU rules page:

"Do not post broad-brush smears against US service people. Do not blame the troops for the mistakes of their officers or their Commander-in-Chief. Show the appropriate level of respect to those individuals who have put their own lives on the line to defend this country."

***

Now - kindly, stop blaming them. Thank you.

[Zuni]

25. wow, that was completely obnoxious

I am not even going to get into why I disagree with your statement, or what is wrong with it.
I am just going to say that this is obnoxious drivel.

[progmom]

31. total bullshit

total, utter bullshit.

[mopaul]

10. the penguin is real too, and he's on the run

and clayface, don't forget about clayface

[KurtNYC]

13. Next you will tell me that Ewoks aren't real!

I saw them with my own eyes!

[maddiejoan]

16. jub jub

Zaqawi is real --he beheaded that guy I tell ya!!! Zaqawi is realllllll!!!! America! America!!!!
beheading is bad!!! jub jub!!! USA! USA! USA!

jub jub.

[Hubert Flottz]

22. Bigfoot has been wounded!

He is limping badly in the latest film!

[Kazak]

18. Those WH planted news stories are getting pretty easy to pick out, eh?

:crazy:

[spanone]

23. Bullshit at Best.

[rniel]

26. May be the rantings of a lunatic but

I think he was dead a long time ago. They just use him as the "ONE" we're supposed to be afraid of. As far as Osama bin laden I think he was in on all this and sits somewhere in an undisclosed location protected by the U.S. and makes little appearances to help bush out when needed.

[mopaul]

29. we have our winner

you get a free cigar

[NNN0LHI]

28. FBI doesn't mention him on their website of wanted terrorists. Wonder why?

http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/terrorists/fugitives.htm

[NNN0LHI]

32. Appears the CIA is having problems getting their evildoers straight here

http://story.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050526/wl_mideast_afp/iraqzarqawiclaims_050526143219

Mystery over Al-Qaeda stand-in for wounded Zarqawi

DUBAI (AFP) - Confusion surrounded an Internet claim that Al-Qaeda has named an acting chief of its Iraq operations following an injury to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, after a new statement emerged denying such a move.

The message, signed by the information section of Zarqawi's group, vehemently rejected a claim that one Abu Hafs al-Qarni had been appointed to take charge until the most wanted man in Iraq recovers from his wounds.

The war of Internet statements has escalated since Islamist websites posted the announcement of Zarqawi's injuries on Tuesday, adding to confusion about the fate of the man accused of being behind the bloodiest attacks in postwar Iraq.

"The information section of the Al-Qaeda Organization has its own media outlets known to Muslims, which is the name Abu Maisara al-Iraqi," a statement, whose authenticity could not be confirmed, said in reference to the usual signature name on the group's statements.

"We deny the claim about the appointment of one Abu Hafs or anyone else," it said Thursday.

[Straight Shooter]

35. I think BFD. That's what I think. al-Qaeda is just a Hydra

Get rid of one head, two more pop up. Just like our corrupt politicians. You can't get rid of them. There's too many egocentrics bloodthirsty for power.

Zarqawi, Schmarzawi, what's the difference? Someone is waiting in the wings and can't wait to show that he's bigger and badder.

[Vogon_Glory]

36. That's What I Suspect, Too

If Zarqawi goes off to his eternal reward (Hopefully something vaguely like what he's hoping for (seventy two beautiful, alluring, and intelligent virgins) but not quite (psychopathic with lightening-fast reflexes, super-human strength and a passion for torturing and dismembering males)), somebody else is all too likely to take his place.

As I said earlier, I hope that at least one of the authors of Iraq's misery is off the boards, hopefully for keeps. Unfortunately, the ones wearing suits and ties in Washington are still in play.