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GarKeeper Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:09 PM
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Would it be legal to arrest GWB for war crimes in a foreign country?
Doesn't Belgium want to arrest him?

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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:11 PM
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1. He would have to be indicted first
Has any country done that yet? :shrug:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:14 PM
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3. Pleeeeeeeeeeeease, g-d!!!!! SOMEONE do it! Just do it!
INDICT him and Arrest his ass! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese! Please, please. Pretty please! With a cherry on top? PLEASE!
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:13 PM
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2. I Sure WISH It Were Legal!!
Dunno if it is or not, but I saw a pretty good political cartoon today, if I can find a link, I'll post it later, but it pretty much sums up GWB for me, and it got me good and pissed off!

I'll describe the comic...

GWB has a booklet in front of him, he's standing at a podium. The booklet is entitled "Embryonic Stem-Cell Research"

The quote bubble on GWB says, we cannot go about carelessly wasting viable life...

There is a flag-draped coffin behind GWB, and a quote bubble coming out of the coffin saying "AHEM!!"

All's I can add to that is a hearty AMEN!!!

Fuckin' Bush...I hate that motherfucker.
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:19 PM
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7. Holland will be invaded
The World Court at The Hague that is.

They have that one covered already.

'Hague Invasion Act' Becomes Law
White House "Stops at Nothing" in Campaign Against War Crimes Court
(New York, August 3, 2002)

A new law supposedly protecting U.S. servicemembers from the International Criminal Court shows that the Bush administration will stop at nothing in its campaign against the court, Human Rights Watch warned today.

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"The states that have ratified this treaty are trying to strengthen the rule of law. The Bush administration is trying to punish them for that."
Richard Dicker
Director
International Justice Program
Human Rights Watch

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U.S. President George Bush today signed into law the American Servicemembers Protection Act of 2002, which is intended to intimidate countries that ratify the treaty for the International Criminal Court (ICC). The new law authorizes the use of military force to liberate any American or citizen of a U.S.-allied country being held by the court, which is located in The Hague. This provision, dubbed the "Hague invasion clause," has caused a strong reaction from U.S. allies around the world, particularly in the Netherlands. (no kidding)

In addition, the law provides for the withdrawal of U.S. military assistance from countries ratifying the ICC treaty, and restricts U.S. participation in United Nations peacekeeping unless the United States obtains immunity from prosecution. At the same time, these provisions can be waived by the president on "national interest" grounds.

http://www.hrw.org/press/2002/08/aspa080302.htm
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 02:08 PM
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10. Does this mean
it's legal to invade a country that tries to arrest the President? yes, I think it does? Does that make it right?
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 02:30 PM
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11. Not just the president
Soldiers.
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:16 PM
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4. I think Germany has a warrant for Rummy...
But the US doesn't recognize the recently established world court.

Any movement would most likely lead to dire consequences that neither nation would want to deal with.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:18 PM
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5. Yes according Amnesty International
They're calling for exactly that.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:19 PM
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6. More so every day.. thats why they wont release Boltons Files..proof!!
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:21 PM
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8. Alternatively... Could we sue Bush and Cheney for wasting public
money; i.e., giving it to people without putting adequate controls for tracking where they spent it and what they spent it on?

I could live with a successful lawsuit against them. }(
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:46 PM
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9. Any official group trying this would have to get past his personal army
Who have orders to shoot to kill under these circumstances, legally sanctioned or otherwise. Why do you think he refuses to travel without the 10,000+ members of his Praetorian guard?



RTP
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 02:33 PM
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12. Everyone's Got Out a Warrant On Kissinger
The question is how do you go about arresting the asshole? There is the problem of the Army, Navy, Airforce, and Marine Corps. The Secret Service doesn't even count in a game that big. Someone tries to snatch the President and they break out the Nukes.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 02:51 PM
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13. And so they should.
Try American law, if you want the president to face jail time. I can't help but think it is a very bad idea for countries to go around arresting each other's leaders.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 02:53 PM
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14. Belgium backed out
Stupid Rumsfeld threatened to remove the NATO headquarters and they kinda removed everything they had against Bush.
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Jester_11218 Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 02:57 PM
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15. One of the first things Bush's administration did...
One of the first things Bush's administration did after the coup of 2000 was to work out arrangements with other nations, in other words threaten and bribe other nations into excluding the US from any kind of accountability to the International Criminal Court. They backed out of the arrangemenst made by Clinton. Do you think they knew something was up?

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