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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 05:57 PM
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I think I've figured out what our exit strategy is.
It occurred to me the other day that the only exit strategy this adminstration has is failure. The only way we're leaving Iraq, at least while Bush and his cronies are in charge, is by getting booted right out by the insurgents.

As long as the fighting goes on, there will be American troops in Iraq, 'helping' the new Iraqi government. The Iraqi government will need our 'help' as long as there's a resistance. Since every occupation inevitably generates resistance, there will be a resistance as long as there are American troops in Iraq. So basically as long as we're still there, we'll never be able to leave.

That is, we'll never be able to leave voluntarily. However, we can always leave involuntarily, and indeed, the way things are going, it looks like we're gonna leave when we can't stay any more.

Could take 20 years to get to that point; could take 2. Fuckin' whee.

Happy memorial day weekend,

The Plaid Adder
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 05:58 PM
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1. Shades of Vietnam..."we can see the light at the end of the tunnel"
"we're makin' good progress"
"we're workin' hard"
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 05:59 PM
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2. It could be or our "exit" strategy is entering Iran.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 06:00 PM
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3. Google "bush failed businesses" and see the profit, and the exit
Who can get tired of "bush failed businesses"? Try "bush silverado" as well.

They don't care about the mess they leave. They don't have to clean it up. They're good at getting the taxpayer to do so, however.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 06:38 PM
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11. Exactly
They'll never clean it up. It's just lies so they can get some more money and "lose" it and everything. As someone else mentioned the only exit plan is to go to either Iran or Syria.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 06:55 PM
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12. More profit, more mess for the rest of us... An endless progression!
And someone's laughing all the way to the offshore bank.

Where'zat missing 8.8 billion? Must be in Iran or Syria, as you said..
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 06:01 PM
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4. I believe the exit strategy is "not to leave".
We (the US) are building 14 permenant military bases there. If we leave, who will inhabit these bases?
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 06:01 PM
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5. I think the exit strategy is to pull the plug on the U.S. contracts and
turn them over to the Iraqis.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 06:07 PM
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6. I predict a Guy Fawkes
plot that takes out the entire puppet govt.

It is the obvious strategy, and the insurgents have had a long enough time to plan it.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 06:14 PM
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7. ask for an up or down vote by the iraqi peope
write an enormous check and get the hell outta dodge
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 06:15 PM
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8. We could use this as an exit strategy:
... we pass along our knowledge of reality to America's youth, thereby convincing them not to join the military. Sorta, "Support the Troops before they become Troops", kinda thing. Exit Strategy: We run out of troops.....:patriot:
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 06:59 PM
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13. Too late.. They're indoctrinating them as embryos now
Give them to us young and they'll be ours forever.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 07:00 PM
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15. Sounds GOOD ta me!!!
What if they gave a war, and NOBODY came?
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 06:15 PM
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9. 6 months to a year

And yes, collapse of the puppet 'democracy' and British bailout and the UN refusing renewal of the 'mandate' are going to be the crucial events.

There is no other way it can end. The hardliner policy out of the White House is Democracy Or Bust. Given that the first can't be achieved (10 year plans...:eyes:), the policy itself can't be given up until the roof does cave in, the endgame is going to be chaotic but we can predict the parts.

The silver lining is that Bush himself will have to order the withdrawal. That is the one thing that can convince Republican hardliners that they were wrong, and it's going to be a terrible day of Loss Of Faith and hara kiri attempts when it happens. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch.
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 06:35 PM
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10. Our exit Stategy - RUN!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 07:00 PM
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14. Think of the people in Iraq who have not lived without fear for 25 years.
Edited on Fri May-27-05 07:01 PM by applegrove
Let them have a peace at least. You cannot possibly hope that people keep getting hurt. That is nothing to hope for. Bush has already lost because his reasons for going for war have proved wrong and they planned the war terribly and at the expense of US troops and Iraqis.

Here is an article on what Iraqis have been thinking all along 'What the Left Got Wrong about Iraq':

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x127885

I say give the Iraqis a few more months to get the army up and going strong. With a few successful Iraqi missions behind it.
We have already messed up that place enough.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 07:02 PM
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16. It Is Much Worse Than That
This is my thinking. There is no exit strategy, that is clear. In the absence of any exit strategy there must be, by default, a strategy to stay in place. The evidence would suggest that one of the key distinguishing features of this policy is that on average 25 Iraqis and one American will die each day. Unfortunately we have the capacity to continue this strategy indefinitely.
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