It's a good thing we don't have socialist health care rationing.

[Telly Savalas]

Here's yet another story about Canada's system failing to provide the health care someone needs:

http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/news/4539521/detail.html

[Radical Activist]

1. Good post.

The way you phrase it shows how full of shit the Republicans are.

[Nite Owl]

2. Their Culture of Death

at work once more.

Even if the doctors were to win the lawsuit so the insurance companies could not decide what care was needed all they would do is raise the rates some more and then people just couldn't afford it. For profit medicine is just not a viable solution for anyone who is not the head of a hospital chain or insurance company.

[Zorra]

3. Clearly, the entire insurance industry needs to be restructured

and controlled by the government, because they are undeniably a hazard to our society.

[Vinca]

4. I'm so disgusted with this country I can barely speak.

Another case where this man - if someone will provide care for him - will end up living in a Maytag box on the street. Health care seems to be the last priority in this, the so-called "wealthiest nation on earth."

[noiretextatique]

5. apparently treating this man

is not cost-effective :eyes: much cheaper to let him die in this supposed 'culture of life.'

[CAG]

6. Wheres the outcry from James Dobson, Tony Perkins, and the

other fristians on this???

Of course, since Tony Perkins has spoken for the Council of Conservative Citizens (the CCC, the kinder gentler form of the KKK), maybe since this gentleman isn't lilly-white it just doesn't matter as much to the white christian right.

What a double standard.

[Hippo_Tron]

10. There's no gay people involved

No outrage needed.

[mr blur]

7. I have to say it wouldn't happen here in the UK

Under our lefty pinko Socialist-established Health System he would get the treatment he needs whoever he was and whether he had any money or not. We have some things to be ashamed of here but the National Health System is one to be proud of. If you were visiting here and were unfortunate to be in an accident you'd get the immediate treatment you needed and then someone would worry about the money afterwards (if necessary) - isn't that the way round things should be?

[NuttyFluffers]

16. but where's the capitalism? the competition? entrepeneurship?

that crazy socialist talk is bleeding heart crap that just keeps all lazy bastards alive. gotta be tough. it's not macho to help people who should pull on their own bootstraps. :sarcasm:

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

8. Reading stories like that makes me ill.

Greed is destroying our country.

[smoogatz]

9. Time to nationalize health insurance.

Don't let the bastards get away with shit like this. Here's the operative quote: "Health plans cannot cover every medical procedure and remain affordable for plan participants. The Carondelet Health medical plan is a comprehensive plan that provides coverage for many illnesses, procedures and medications. Experimental, investigational treatments are excluded with the plan." Change "affordable for plan participants" to "profitable for company stockholders" and you have something closer to the truth.

[Telly Savalas]

11. Oh, so you wanna deny this guy his health care choices?

And also bear in mind that countries with national single payer systems spend less in administrative overhead, which means less jobs for paperpushers.

[Lars39]

12. Had to go look up Miltie..

Yep,we're in the most moral type of economic system all right. :puke:

[China_cat]

13. They'll do what my insurance carrier did

after they cancelled me. They've dragged out the lawsuit and will continue to drag it out until I die. It will cheaper for them to settle a wrongful death suit.

[xray s]

14. We have national health insurance now

It's called Medicare, and if you're 65 years old you are covered by it.

We simply need to expand Medicare to cover all citizens.

Insurance isn't rocket science. The answer to this insanity is already up and running and covering a large segment of the population.

Lets get it done.

[Cleita]

19. Actually the government pays for 60% of the

health care in this country through various programs, Medicare, Medicaid, Chips, Champus and others I can't think of right now. Harvard Medical school did a study on it.

How, much easier would it be to consolidate all these programs under one umbrella and extend it to everyone. Time to kick the insurance and for profit HMO industries out.

The only drawback with Medicare is that it pays for only 80% after a deductible so those gaps in coverage would have to be plugged. Since we spend twice as much on health care as Canada, I'm sure the money is there, once we relieve the insurance crooks of it.

It's time to take care of the sick, not just the people who might get sick.

[NMMNG]

15. Guess what?

"I don't know what else to do, but just wait," Pierce said.

He has already been waiting months for his wife's insurance provider to approve life-saving care. But each time First Health Coventry has said no, saying Pierce's care either is not a medical necessity or is experimental.


And in other news...

Coventry Health Care, Inc. (NYSE:CVH) today reported operating results for the quarter ended March 31, 2005. Operating revenues totaled $1.57 billion for the quarter, a 21.5% increase over the first quarter of 2004....

"I am delighted with the progress our Company made in the first quarter of 2005," said Dale B. Wolf, chief executive officer of Coventry. "Our health plan earnings came in slightly ahead of plan, First Health revenue is settling in as expected, and operations and expense reduction progress is either at or ahead of schedule in almost all areas. Overall, our opportunities and prospects have never been better."

http://www.forbes.com/businesswire/feeds/businesswire/2005/05/03/businesswire20050503005546r1.html


We all know why their profits are up, don't we?

:mad:

[CAG]

18. No doubt Fox news business shows luv this company....

"Expense reduction progress" is the kinder, gentler way of saying we let people die instead of spending money on treating them.

Are their employees proud to be a part of this?? Especially the ones who attend the Christian-lite right fundy churches who are railing against activist judges and Terry Schiavo??

[Pushed To The Left]

17. I really hate conservatism sometimes.

I have talked a lot about my dislike of the radical religious right, but the so-called "free market" conservatives aren't so great either if they are willing to let people die in the name of profit.