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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:13 PM
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Put a scarlet letter on pharmacists who deny women birth control
It's my opinion that pharmacists who deny women birth control are passing judgment on those who need them no matter the reason and they would rather see us pregnant even at the cost of our lives.

Is there a web site that collects the names and locations of pharmacists who deny women birth control?

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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:14 PM
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1. what letter?
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:16 PM
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4. How about an " F " for @#$%^ Fundamentalist ? nt
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AtLiberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:15 PM
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2. W
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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:16 PM
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3. I believe you've won. n/t
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:22 PM
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5. NARAL has a letter for you to take to your pharmisist to pledge
that he WILL fill all perscriptions

http://prochoiceaction.org/campaign/june7
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:24 PM
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6. A Large Scarlet
"D" for Dominionists. Print out an informative Newsletter informing people what a Dominionist is and post it under the letter every day. Let people know how others are forcing their views on you. "Religious persecution is Alive !!!"
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:32 PM
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7. Aaron Brown just discussed this on CNN
I was impressed. They showed a nice young blonde mom from Texas who couldn't get her birth control prescription filled at her local CVS. T
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:42 PM
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9. Wow at a CVS? You would think a chain like
that would have some policy on this...
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:40 PM
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8. That Is An Excellent Idea, Ma'am
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:43 PM
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10. it is actually an affort to protect husbands who might want to have kids..
just like Judge Brown is against women voting.. because the wive might cancel out the husbands vote.. she is to subserviant, PERIOD

fundi bullshit.. addams rib bullshit
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:48 PM
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11. What ridiculous logic!
What if my neighbors "cancels out" my vote? Does that mean I can protest their enfranchisement? I'm sick of these fundinutties.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:48 PM
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12. A big, fat, giant RED "M"
for "MISOGYNIST"
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:49 PM
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13. check out this pharmacy scorecard ...
there's also a link to this site from the Planned Parenthood website ...

http://www.saveroe.com/fillmypillsnow/scored.php
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:56 PM
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14. Thanks for that
Damn, we've always gone to Walgreens. My oldest daughter gets her birth control from them.

We won't do CVS. I can't stand the place. KMart looks damn good.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 10:08 PM
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15. i like the standard they use ...
their basic pitch is that no employee working at a pharmacy should be required to violate their personal beliefs HOWEVER the pharmacy must make sure that the customer can readily get their doctor-prescribed prescriptions filled without any inconvenience ...

the basic idea is that the pharmacy must have an alternate person available to fill the prescription ...
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 10:19 PM
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16. that is a bunch of CRAP
I've heard that no "alternate" pharmacist is available in many cases despite their dumbass "policy."

THe pharmacist was hired to do a job and, like all of us, should DO THE DAMN JOB OR BE FIRED.

I have written Walgreens, I have written Albertsons, and now I will be writing CVS--not only will I not buy prescriptions at any of those places, I won't shop there period. Their management has their head up their ass, kow towing to these idiots. Next they will let the vegetarian cashiers refuse to ring up meat purchases, the Jewish cashiers refuse to ring up non-Kosher purchases, and nonsmokers refuse to ring up tobacco items. Why not Rastafarian barbers who are allowed to refuse to cut people's hair?

Such blatant and incompetent mismanagement, where the employees are allowed to dictate what they will and will not do, should not be rewarded.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 10:26 PM
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17. well, i disagree ...
my values would require employers to be tolerant of their employees deeply held beliefs ... as long as the customers receive the service they expect with no inconvenience, i really don't understand why you would object to requiring employers to be more tolerant of their employees ...

your position sounds like you're condoning corporate intolerance ...
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 03:34 AM
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18. The problem is,
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 03:35 AM by BuffyTheFundieSlayer
That the customers are not receiving the service they expect with no inconvenience. In fact, in many cases they are not receiving any service at all--what they are receiving is a pharmacist giving them a dose of moral grandstanding and then sending them on a search to find a pharmacy that will fill their prescription.



I am an atheist I work in human services with disabled people. At times I have had to take my clients to church, which involves sitting with them in the service as they are not able to remain unattended due to the level of their disabilities. I was not allowed to refuse to take them to the services because it was part of my job. When clients approach me and talk about religious matters I am not allowed to interject my personal views into the discussions because my job duties are to attend to their needs, not mine. I am a vegetarian, but I am not allowed to refuse to serve my clients meat because again, I am to serve their needs, not mine.

The pharmacist's job is to fill a prescription, not pass moral judgement on the nature of the prescription. If s/he is unable to do that because of his/her moral beliefs there are plenty of other jobs available.
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phylny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 05:29 AM
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23. Wonderfully said n/t
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 04:12 AM
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19. try that argument with your own employer (I assume you have one?)
If I had someone working for me who refused to do something that is a clear part of their job description I would FIRE HIM/HER in a heartbeat.

yeah, yeah, "tolerant of their employees' deeply held beliefs"--so what the hell are the employees doing in a job that requires them to go against their beliefs?? THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN THAT JOB to begin with.

"corporate intolerance"?? hello? I condone EMPLOYEES DOING THE JOB THEY WERE HIRED TO DO.

so tell me: if you go into a restaurant and order a steak, and the waitress brings you a salad, rolls, and a baked potato with no butter or sour cream because she's a vegan and it's against her personal beliefs to eat meat or dairy products, you're okay with that? suppose you were another waitress who had to bring the meat and dairy products to the first waitress's customers? it's perfectly okay with you that someone else has to work harder because of some twit's "personal beliefs" that have to be inflicted on everybody else because that dumbass twit is too STUPID and INCOMPETENT to get a job that won't violate their sanctimonious holier-than-thou attitude?

if I were another pharmacist working with one of these cretins I'd tell him to shove his attitude up his ass and refuse to do the job the other person was hired to do. And they could fire me for that--but I'd quit first and go to work for a company that had some common sense. Next they'll be letting people sit through their entire 8-hour shift because every aspect of the job violates their precious "personal superstitions."

intolerant? you bet. I HATE DUMBASSES.
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 04:27 AM
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20. if work is against my religion
and I am passionately anti-work, could I sit around at my job and still collect a paycheck?
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 04:32 AM
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22. oh sure, I don't want to be "intolerant" of your beliefs--
--yeah, all the other employees will be only too happy to do your job for you :sarcasm:
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 06:47 PM
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28. just make sure that you hire some who has work
as part of their religion if you hire me. If you do it will work fine. :). --joke, joke --
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 04:30 AM
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21. oh and by the way, concerning tthe Planned Parenthood
pharmacy approvals--don't you see the post somewhere above where a woman was UNABLE to get birth control pills at a CVS? PPFA has a letter on their website from CVS going on with that same blather about how everybody will be accommodated, so they get the big "thumbs up" from PPFA--and here's the woman on CNN saying she was TURNED AWAY from the CVS pharmacy. I just wasted like 10 minutes looking all over the PPFA website for some way to make a comment to the effect that they better look again at CVS, but there is absolutely no way to do that. the hell with them, I will just order all my prescriptions from an online Canadian pharmacy.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 06:02 AM
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26. Yeah. Or say I'm a firefighter who believes gay people should burn.
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 06:05 AM by impeachdubya
How dare you foist your intolerance on me by telling me to put their houses out!

If you can't do your state-licensed job as a pharmacist.. which is filling legitimately prescribed medication in a timely fashion..then you should find. another. fucking. job.

Period. It's not "religious freedom" to impose your values on other people via NOT DOING YOUR JOB, it's NOT DOING YOUR JOB.

Feh.
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Nobody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 05:35 AM
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25. Hey! I know Muslim restaurateurs who
serve ALCOHOL! And furthermore if you can prove you're over 21 they won't refuse you.

What a concept.
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ToeBot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 05:34 AM
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24. Nathaniel Hawthorne weeps, even in his grave
I think you missed the point of The Scarlett Letter
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 06:08 AM
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27. Looks like another reason to shop at COSTCO!
Man, they rock.
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Mich Otter Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 06:58 PM
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29. They ought to lose their license to be a pharmacist.
If their willingness to dispense medicines is dependent upon their religious beliefs, they ought to do their dispensing in a facility set up in their church. If they deal with the public, they ought to lose their license if they refuse to do their job.
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