I need a good resource to debunk conservative myths of our welfare "state"

[expatriot]

You know, the misperception that there are all these welfare queens and illegal immigrants out there living high on the hog off of tax dollars, I am having a hard time finding anything good and precise via Google. Does anybody know of any? Okay, I am running an errand I will be back in half an hour. Thanks in advance.

[EVDebs]

1. Wealth and Democracy by Kevin Phillips for openers

The concentration of wealth in economic empires over recent history as Phillips chronicles leads to eventual collapse.

You need to google 'concentration of wealth' and 'corporate welfare'...

Also, besides Phillip's book, there are many others on this topic.

see www.faireconomy.org

and also

www.corporations.org/welfare/

Furthermore, it stands to reason that Keynes' 'marginal propensity to consume' argument, in dealing with economic growth, that the lower incomes receive tax cuts...their rising consumption will inevitably boost the economy's growth. Supply siders believe the exact opposite, hence the mess we're in right now.

[Mel]

2. have you seen this site

LIBERALISM RESURGENT:
A Response to the Right

© Copyright by Steve Kangas, editor.

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/tenets.htm

Myths about welfare:
There are Welfare Queens driving Welfare Cadillacs.
The poor receive the most welfare.
Welfare is to blame for runaway government spending.
People on welfare are lazy and stupid bums.
People on welfare are usually black, teenage mothers who stay on ten years at a time.
People on welfare should just find jobs.
Welfare gives people an economic incentive to avoid work.
Welfare gives mothers an economic incentive to have more children.
Welfare gives women an incentive to have children out of wedlock or break up marriages.
Welfare can be replaced by charity.
Welfare increases poverty.
Welfare traps people in poverty.
The U.S. has wasted over $5 trillion on the war on poverty.

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/LiberalFAQ.htm

[expatriot]

4. very, very nice....

somebody should contact the propieter of this site and see if s/he would be interested in letting DUers help him with an aesthetic facelift of the site and to hyperlink current online stats to back up his claims.... I mean this is awesome.

[Horse with no Name]

3. Responding to the Religious Right

http://members.tripod.com/~candst/tnppage/argidx.htm

Just to add to your collection

[expatriot]

5. thanks

[fob]

6. You may have to google it but look up the States that send more

money TO Washington DC than they get in RETURN via Federal services.

It's pretty much the blue states as donor states and the red states as actual WELFARE states. The red states for the most part are SUBSIDIZED by the blue states. And you know why the blue states don't bitch about it? Because we're all supposed to be on the SAME GODDAMNED TEAM! I don't give a flying fuck if a mother on welfare DOES choose a Cadillac as her vehicle of choice, hell I WANT her to have the best, most reliable fucking vehicle in the world. And you know what, welfare in all it's forms costs me less than NOT PROVIDING it would. What happens when a person has nowhere to turn, is trapped in a corner? They lash out, with nothing to lose they have everything to gain and may decide to carjack my family just because, why the fuck would I want that over spending a few fucking bucks to provide some goddamned HUMANITY to my fellow earthling? Do some people ABUSE this generosity? Yes. But there are those with millions and BILLIONS of dollars that abuse there power/authority just to get a few more bucks so there are assholes at EVERY economic level. Poking a finger in everyone's eye because there are a few a-holes is ignorant.


Fuck the conservatives and their goddamned myths intended to divide those of similar economic conditions through racism, ignorance, intolerance and a sense of give me mine and fuck you and yours.

/rant-for now

[Ian David]

7. More information and related thread

California's Letter of Secession - Political Joke
Congratulations on your victory over all us non-evangelicals. Actually, we're a bit ticked off here in California, so we're leaving you. ...
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/jokes/bljokecaliforniasecession.htm


THE URBAN ARCHIPELAGO
by The Editors of The Stranger
http://www.urbanarchipelago.com/

Fuck The South
http://www.fuckthesouth.com /
(I may or may not necessarily endorse the ideas expressed at the above site).

Related thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3847313

[seabeyond]

8. they do, they are fucking the system like others, butt.....

there are people who need the system, dont know hwo to use the system, or the system doesnt have something for them. hard working people making friggin minimum wage that need something. after school programs, food programs.....and because of abuse of the criminals,.....that are pumping out money in a way we would all disagree with,.........these people that need, cant get.