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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:47 AM
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What Do You Think The State Of The American Political Pendulum Is?
Edited on Tue Jun-14-05 11:53 AM by DistressedAmerican
Some days I think I see a slowing of even reversing of pendulum's direction. Most days I see us slipping farther and further to the extreme right!

There are signs of hope however, DSM I and II, Bolton Floundering, The Nuke Option Turing Out To Be A Dud!

So what do you think? Is it starting to get better or are we a ways off until we hit rock bottom?

If we aren't careful, the pendulum could easily become a wrecking ball...

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:50 AM
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1. just like yuo there are days I see hope
there are days I just go oh my god
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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:52 AM
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2. I think, right now it's Broke (nt)
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:56 AM
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3. I like it alot
But don't forget the pendulum always swings back in equal distance to its opposite.
that is a law of Newton. So there is hope.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 01:29 PM
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8. Actually That's Not True
It swings back, but never as far back as it was before. We will never regain what they have stolen from us.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:02 PM
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4. The GOP/Neocons have had it nailed in position for about 7 years
It's trying to swing back but these criminals keep nailing it down. I believe that it's in the process of breaking free, and when it does it's going to swing left very quickly.. Slapping BushCo on the ass as it does.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 01:02 PM
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5. We Can Certainly Hope! Someone Throw A Stick Up At It!
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 01:15 PM
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6. I see it still sliding right.
DSM I & II could slow the momentum a bit, but Bolton is an inconsequential sideshow, and the nukular option was not a dud. It did just as it was intended to -- made the dems compromise, which for dem leadership means surrender. We gave up the judges to preserve a filibuster which will still get nuked when it comes time to replace Renquist. We allowed lifetime appointments, and fight an appointment of someone whose term will end with this administration.

*s low polling numbers mean nothing, because we don't count the votes, they do. If they count the votes, no matter what the polling, they will take more power in 06, setting the stage for their annointed successor in 08.

But did you hear? Terri Schaivo's autopsy results will be posted tomorrow!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 01:28 PM
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7. It swung right and then fell off
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 01:31 PM
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9. It's at the end of the right
Edited on Tue Jun-14-05 01:34 PM by OnionPatch
just at the end, where the gravity from the left is pulling, pulling, pulling at it to come back. It can't go much further, the pressure is too great. It has to go back soon, but what if the cord breaks and it just hurls off into space? :crazy:

Great graphic!
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 02:06 PM
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10. I've Been Considering Adding A Couple Of Frames With It Flying
Off to the right. I wanted to leave the possibility open though!
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 03:38 PM
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11. Slowed The Swing Down A Bit For Better Pic Viewing...
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 05:49 PM
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12. Kickin It Back To The Left!
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 09:45 PM
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16. ...
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DemGirl7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 07:18 PM
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13. It's not that I'm hopeless...
it's just that I see it as swinging most of the time to the right, yeah there are bright spots every so often, but as long Bush & Co. are at the reigns of the government,it's not going to swing back to a nice comfortable spot on the left.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 07:24 PM
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14. I think we're in the pit
and regardless of how the pendulum swings, it's coming at us.
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 07:50 PM
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15. Ex-Bush Aide Who Edited Climate Reports to Join ExxonMobil
Not anytime soon not with this type of crap going on in broad daylight, they don't even try to hide it anymore.

By ANDREW C. REVKIN
Published: June 15, 2005
Philip A. Cooney, the White House staff member who repeatedly revised government scientific reports on global warming, will go to work for ExxonMobil in the fall, the oil company said today.
Mr. Cooney resigned on Friday as chief of staff to President Bush's environmental policy council, two days after documents obtained by The New York Times showed that he had edited the reports in ways that cast doubt on the link between greenhouse-gas emissions and rising temperatures.
A former lawyer and lobbyist with the American Petroleum Institute, the main lobbying group for the oil industry, Mr. Cooney has no scientific training.


http://nytimes.com/2005/06/15/science/14cnd-climate.html?hp&ex=1118808000&en=5cd3e1222ecd6bea&ei=5094&partner=homepage
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:39 PM
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17. Flaccid
:wow:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:44 PM
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18. I believe it is a dangerous myth.
It's like saying "Republicans will eventually fall on thier swords."
No, they wont. You ghave to "stab" them.

You dont win elections by waiting for the pendulum to swing your way- you swing it yourself by pushing the damn thing.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:53 PM
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19. People have the power to change things...
We just need to find ourselves. We need to look at who we are, what we want, and what we must do in order to make things better. We must never give up.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:54 PM
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20. political pendulum: good ---- issues pendulum: bad
the American pendulum can either be viewed politically (will Dems regain power) or it can focus on the underlying issues ... which measure you use will significantly skew the results ...

politically, the republicans are in full retreat ... it's hard to see how the American people will continue to support the insanity of the neo-con agenda ... the religious right is getting a dose of reality now ... they are going to be very disappointed when they realize they were used for political gain and that the neo-cons, and even mainstream republicans, will not continue to cater to their agenda because of the political costs ... so, eventually, Democrats will be the "only other choice in town" ... using a political measure, things are going our way ...

but Democrats are badly squandering a real opportunity to not just regain power for an election or two but push a vision that could really solve some of the very deep problems with America ... unfortunately, most of them are more concerned with politics and power than with the "riskier" issues that need our attention ... sitting at the core of their shortcomings is the corporate stranglehold on our democracy, the total corruption of American foreign policy and an excess of "free market" capitalism that serves profits before it serves our citizens and our society ...

so, on this latter pendulum, we are making no progress at all ...
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