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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 06:44 PM
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David Gregory just tried to help out traitors Rove and Idiot Son
David Gregory just said on Hardball that Rove made it clear at the time he leaked the Plame identity that the administration "sought to discredit Joe Wilson".

Then Gregory added......."they just didn't think he was credible as a source of this information".

BULL FUCKING SHIT. The problem wasn't that they didn't think Joe Wilson's information was credible but that they either FEARED TO THEIR CORRUPT BONES IT WAS credible or KNEW IT WAS credible.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 06:46 PM
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1. I think that's all beside the point. All that matters is what they did. n
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 06:48 PM
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3. Just pointed out the reporter's kneejerk tendency to give credence to
the Repuke claims/lies.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 06:48 PM
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2. After the Downing Street Memo, that argument has run a little thin
After all, Wilson was clearly right in the end. There was no attempt to purchase Uranium from Niger.

Admitting that they sought to discredit Wilson by leaking his wife's identity shows not only motive, but malice aforethought. That seems important in a legal sense.

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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 06:59 PM
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4. Some Woman From The New York Post on MSNBC Just Now...
is trying to discredit Joe Wilson. She is saying he lied.

Is this true - was Wilson not totally honest in his account of this incident?

Why is this just coming out now?

Are these the RW talking points that are being put out to be puked out by all the RW talking heads to try and quell the furor that is currently looking to take out at least Rove and quite possibly others in the WH including Chaney or * himself?

Looks like Scott has got caught up in this too.

I thought Chaney was the one that requested that Wilson investigate this. At least that is what I remember him saying at the onset. of this controversy.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:02 PM
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6. This is nothing new
They've repeatedly tried to make Wilson the issue. It doesn't matter; leaking his wife's name and jeopardizing national security is a serious crime.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:34 PM
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13. It's not about Wilson anymore. That part does not matter in this case.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:06 PM
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7. Wilson did not lie.
Be on guard for people like that woman, trying to plant seeds of doubt. Wilson didn't lie about the case. Has he ever erred, and confused a date? Yes, but it was in regard to something relatively insignificant in a discussion; he had told the correct date in numerous other conversations and writings. The republicans are going to try to nit-pick, and will have people call in and try to create confusion. But the truth is that what Wilson has said doesn't matter in the legal case: the White House is attempting to cover up the guilt of key officials. Wilson is not part of the grand jury investgation, the White House is.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:07 PM
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8. Weekly STandard Lying Asshole On Fox Said Same- Wilson's Now
discredited info about uranium. grrrrrrr scum.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:02 PM
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5. For sake of discussion .....
As a reporter, David is able to take the approach he feels is best. As a participant on a discussion show, he has to take the MSNBC policy of "balance" instead. Is it at times frustrating? Sure, but that is the product they sell.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:18 PM
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9. he should have said the administration CLAIMS they think he's not credible
instead he said the administration "just doesn't think he's credible"
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:24 PM
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10. Oh, I agree fully
that the show should attempt to provide the truth to those who watch it.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:30 PM
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11. Maybe someone called David Gregory about his grilling of McLellan???
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:30 PM
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12. That doesn't help the junta that much
Edited on Mon Jul-11-05 07:49 PM by Jack Rabbit
If you believe "them", then they simply misjudged Wilson. And you could be right, too.

In either case, Gregory is just reporting what WH officials were saying two years ago. He may think they're full of steer manure, too, but it's not his job to tell his viewers what he thinks unless he's got solid facts to back it up.

By the way, I agree with you that they feared Wilson would be all too credible.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:55 PM
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14. Ah, but the Administration had two reports prior to Wilson's and all
reports said the Niger/Iraq/yellowcake claims were not credible.

Something I don't believe the press has highlighted. Three reports said the Niger claim was BS. Wilson's was the third. First report by a State Dept official in Niger, second report by some US military fellow as I recall.

The only thing different about Wilson is that he went public.

The WH claim that they didn't think his report was credible was part of their disinformation and smear campaign. Press reports such as these make it sound like the WH was concerned about the truth and were simply mistaken about the facts, which in fact was not the case.

Shortly after Wilson came forward I believe the WH admitted the Niger claim was "suspect" and should not have been included in the State of the Union. To which Sandy Berger wondered to Wilson, if they admit that so quickly, what is it they are are trying to protect?

As we know now, with evidence to back it up, they were trying to protect the fact that all their rationales for war and "intel" was entirely manufactured and skewed BS and they knew it. But with an election year coming up they didn't want that cat out of the bag.

What does not serve the public interest is when media reports such as this and Isikoff's piece in Newsweek continue to report the Administration's lies and fail to point out that they have been shown to be lies, not just now but that the Administration knew they were passing disinformation at the time they were uttered.
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