Conservatives mad at Borders and Barnes & Noble

[dobak]

I work for a Borders and my wife works for B&N.

Both of us, along with some people I know from other bookstores, have reported customers coming in and asking where the new books by Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter are. If the employee cannot find them quick, they launch into a tirade about how the employees are hiding the books so they don't sell.

Which is a flat out lie.

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Ingraham's book just came out and is selling fairly well. It is most likely sold out.

Coulter's book has just came off the bestseller list of both companies and most copies are likely stored in an overstock area.

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Anyone know where this rumor started?

[NashVegas]

1. When Michael and Al and Hilary Jim and all

Started selling like hotcakes, maybe?

[FlashHarry]

2. Well...

...I know of a few DUers who 'hide' RW hate-books. Personally, I don't. I like to think we're a little bit better than that. Though I wouldn't be surprised if the FR crowd did the same thing.

[Skittles]

17. UM...........FlashHarry

please understand that where I live, LIBERAL BOOKS ARE NEVER, EVER DISPLAYED and very often can be found hidden in the FICTION section.
When I force a display IT IS PAYBACK.

[Patriot_Spear]

35. I like to move copies of Hitler's Biography next to Dumya's...

...to save people the extra step.

Coulter's books I move to the 'Trans-Gender Issues' shelf.

[dofus]

3. Sounds like

the troops have been organized for the very purpose of "proving" that the bookstores are part of the liberal conspiracy.

[ikojo]

33. You hit the nail on the head! They hear something on

Rush's show like, go into Borders/B&N and see if you can find conservative titles. See if they are hidden away.

The troops are called into action to verify a preconcieved notion.


Conservatives have a serious persecution complex that is so not deserved. They cry that the media is liberal when it is wall to wall conservative!

[gratuitous]

4. "Where are the Ingraham and Coulter books?"

Have you tried Fiction, sir? Not there? How about the Fantasy section? Not there either huh? Well, we do try to provide a wide selection of titles to stimulate our customers' thinking. Perhaps you should try the men's room; I believe those particular authors stimulate something else in most of our patrons.

[Fatima]

23. I was thinking more along the lines of "horror"

or maybe "true crime"

[VOX]

5. Conservatives should love Border's -- they fire Bush "critics"...

http://www.bordersunion.org/phpBB_14+index-action-viewtopic-topic-611-forum-10-start-0.html
7/24/2003
FREDERICKSBURG, Va. -- A Borders Books & Music store has banned a Baltimore singer-songwriter from performing there after she made an unflattering comment about President Bush's physique during a concert at the store last week.

Julia Rose, who is also a fitness advocate, told the audience, "George Bush has chicken legs. He needs to pump some iron."

[Livadia]

6. I don't know why anyone would have trouble finding them

At my Borders, Coulter's latest screed is at the front of the store, and in the political section the book faces outward and you can see her scary face straight-on. They should just walk past and wait for the shiver to go down their spines as those dead eyes stare out vacantly at them.

Being conservative, however, they might be used to that look.

[OneTwentyoNine]

32. Yeah,and the fact that they crank out a new book every month or so...

Hell,the store should be full of the crap with the volume of shit they get published.

I don't listen to Hannity very often but every time I do he's pimping his "NEW" book that's on the shelves or going to be in the near future.

Its amazing how they can write book after book of nothing but crap and the old,tired Clinton bashing and sell to the sheep. Those freepers should put that $29.95 toward food,house payment,car payment etc...and leave the book on the table.

David

[Noordam]

7. One of the Barnes & Noble in Tampa is FAR FAR right wing

Only Right Wing books make it to the shelves as you walk into the store and by the tons.

When Hillary's books came out they only had ONE and it was stored in the Bio section FAR in back of the store. They has a new Bio section right inside the front door.

Two blocks north is a Borders and I brought LH and pre-order Harry Potter. So not only did B&N lose that book but now all my business.

[Postman]

8. Have you ever looked at the NY Times Bestseller list?....

While scanning the list, look at which books have a "dagger" (sort of like an asterisk) next to the title and which ones don't.

That "dagger" indicates that the book has been purchased in bulk purchases.

You'll find that the "dagger" is beside all of the right-wing crazies books. They have been purchased by the right-wing think tanks and clowns like Limbaugh and Hannity to give away to their moranic followers.

Most if not all of the Liberal/expose of gov't corruption type books are legitimately on the bestseller list. Unlike the bs attack editorials that pass for "books" from the right-wing.

[Terwilliger]

9. I thought Franken or somebody said that the Rev. Moon buys them in bulk

in order to inflate the book in the rankings

[spooky3]

10. It's absurd to suggest that a commercial bookstore

would hide a book that would be a hot seller. They're in the business to make a profit, and they do that by providing what customers want. If a book is objectionable to the store owner, presumably s/he would refuse to carry it altogether, which is his/her right.

[spooky3]

11. Terwilliger, I don't know about that, but the NYT best-seller list shows

which books have generated bulk orders, by placing a (+) next to the title info.

[spooky3]

12. sorry for the dupe, Postman, I was typing about the same time you were.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

15. al said

that richard mellon scaif uses mona charon's books as mulch.

[PaDUer]

26. Buys them in bulk?

What does he do w/ them?--wipe his rearend or burn them at one of their cultmeeetings??

[arendt]

13. This is more projection/muddying the water

A few weeks ago, a story made the rounds that CONSERVATIVES
were hiding and defacing liberal books.

So, the GOP department of dirty tricks has concocted the absolute
inverse of the truth and had someone trump up phony incidents.

These Bizarro-world lies will then be played back through the
Drudge->Limbaugh->Fox propaganda machine.

So, I guess, now, the Freepers are active agents provocateur,
forming a new bottom layer of the RW propaganda food chain.

arendt

[grasswire]

14. just roll your eyes....

....and tell them that twenty democrats have said the same thing about their books in the past two hours.

[JanMichael]

16. Not sure about your question. However I worked...

...at a Borders a few years ago and loved it.

The pay sort of sucked (This was 8 years ago so it may not apply) but the job itself was really quite interesting.

[populistmom]

18. It's my daughter's fault

She's heard her mom rant and rave too much and now hides Ann Coulter's books behind other books.
I had been letting her read Al Franken's book, but I was ahead of her enough to see the part that quoted Bill O'Reilly's book and told her she has to wait a couple more years at least.
She's going to be a force to be reconned (sp?) within a few years.

[lancemurdoch]

19. Borders Union

I went to a rally outside of Borders a few weeks ago in support of Borders workers trying to organize. This campaign has been going on for years...but we're in it for the long haul.

http://www.bordersunion.org

[dobak]

20. Our store just had a vote on a contract Wed. night

It was a weak contract, so it was voted against unanimously.

Maybe a better contract can be worked out.

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Anyway, I had to deal with the idiot today.

He came in looking for Ingraham's book. The bookseller could not find it for him, so he started getting on her case about it and telling her that he should have known we wouldn't have it out. She called me to help and I also looked for it but could not find it (our system said we should have 8 copies).

I took him back to the political science section to try and find it and on the way he was harrassing me, saying "I've hear a rumor that Barnes & Noble and Borders are hiding conservative books, making the customers ask for them if they want one."

I said that was not true.

He repeated his claim again.

I stopped walking, turned around and looked him in the eye and said. "That is not true."

He pulled a "submissive dog" look and weakly muttered, "Well, that is what I heard."

He then turned around and walked out the door.

Anyway, it turns out that 3 of the 8 copies were on hold for customers and the other 5 were on the bestseller wall, prominently displayed near the main entrance. (I did not know this because the bestseller list just switched this morning, and I had not seen it yet.

[Redneck Socialist]

21. Conservative books are prominently featured

in the B&N near me. I have a friend who goes in and remerchandises for them and resets the liberal books in the front. And no he doesn't work there.

[jmowreader]

24. How can we get him a pad of B&N RTV forms?

RTV = Return to Vendor. It is what it sounds like.

We get him some RTV paperwork, let him RTV all the winger books. It will be good.

[BiggJawn]

22. The Cons have to ask because they are illiterate.

And that's why Neo-Con authors have their pix on the covers. So their fans can find the books without having to get someone to read the title to them.

I'll bet it's a Limbaugh thing. Gush (or In-Sannity or Liddy, or Dr. Laura, or whoever) is telling the Freeples that their favourite books are under attack by the liberal booksellers...

Yeah, liberal booksellers, because if these people were good Murkans, they'd take trash like Al Franken and Hillary and burn it...

It's a "Talking point Campaign", like I hear on WLS on sundays somnetimes. Several people will call in with the same lie, sometimes word-for-word repeating an earlier call.

[SoCalDem]

25. At Walden Books, Krugman's book was in the "finance" section

Franken's was in "humor"...

Hiaassen's books were all over the place, even though Barry's were all in one place.. It took me forever to get the books I wanted..

They did give me a "bonus" though.. they threw in some japanese anime book that they did not charge me for.. It must have been laying on the counter when they packed up my stuff..

I plan to return it, but I thought it was odd that they did not notice that..

[Deja Q]

27. Send them to the B&N in Woodbury, you'll love this

Large stacks of Doggy Coulter's rant books (from floor up to 4 feet!) can be found at the corners of bookshelves. I wander around the area all the time and they're impossible to miss.

But nobody's obviously buying them.

But the liberal books are getting sold because I don't see stacks of them littering up the place, hurrah! :D

[Iverson]

28. Conservatives mad at books, learning

n/t

[opihimoimoi]

29. Books from the LIB side have a lot of meat, facts, etc

Books from the Conserve side usually filled with tripe, body parts.

Go Figure.

[dusty64]

30. You mean people

are actually buying these books. I've heard their position on the bestseller lists were mainly due to mysterious bulk buying. Can't believe people are reading that crap. I've seen many posts of these bookstores "hiding" books by progressive authors, what gives? Is it a deliberate strategy by the companies or manipulation by customers (willing or paid)?

[OneTwentyoNine]

31. Probably cause these freepers are too GD lazy to look for themselves...

They don't want to look around the entire store,they want to be led by the hand and spoon fed just like they get on a daily basis by Pigboy,Hannity,O'Reilly and that whole Nazi bunch that they bow down too.




David

[Classical_Liberal]

34. They are concerned that liberals are going to treat them

like they have treated liberals.

[blondeatlast]

36. I worked at a BnN affiliate for a while, just as the political

presses started taking off on both sides.

I always thought it would be cool to have a "left" and "right" display at the beginning of the main aisle.

If you are ever curious about how certain politically themed books are doing, let me know BY POSTING (I don't want to get overwhelmed), then PMing me the link. I have access to the ordering databases of Ingram and Baker and Taylor, and I know how to make sense of the stats as well.