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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 05:57 PM
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Max Cleland - why was he removed from the 9/11 commission?
Did he resign or was he offered a "better" deal? With all our prior suspicions being validated regarding the bullshit report put out by the commission, I hold the members in extreme disregard. WHat a bunch of bastards who went along with this fraudulent crap. So-called democrats Lee Hamilton and Bob Kerrey let this happen. Screw them! The result might actually have been a better novel had Henry Kissinger been the chairman.
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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 06:10 PM
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1. I think he was offered a job
maybe with the World Bank? not sure.

I never understood why he took that job and left the commission, it just never sat right.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 06:10 PM
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2. He got offered a better deal
and he needed the money.

Plus he participated in the event, either knowingly or unknowingly, by letting Gen. Myers kill time in his office until after the Pentagon was hit. Myers went into Cleland's office that morning and saw the video coming from NYC after the first WTC tower was hit. He instructed Cleland's secretary not to interrupt them. It wasn't until after the Pentagon was hit that when Myers came out and found out about the other 2 attacks.

I guess Cleland ended up in the middle of more then he realized.

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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 06:20 PM
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6. That is a weird story. I had not heard that about Max on that day.
Why didn't the General want them to be interuppted? What were they doing? How could they have not known about all of the atacks? Max has the internet on his Blackberry and (I'm sure)had a computer in his office. Strange.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 06:44 PM
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8. There was even a TV is the outer office
with the news of the attack on when Myers arrived.

Myers was meeting with Cleland in preparation for his Senate confirmation hearing. He was also the acting Chief of Staff that day, because the CS was out of the country on a plane over the Atlantic.

Here's the story from the horse's mouth.


Myers said he was on Capitol Hill that morning in the offices of Georgia Sen. Max Cleland to discuss his confirmation earing to become chairman. While in an outer office, he said, he saw a television report that a plane had hit the World Trade Center. "They thought it was a small plane or something like that," Myers said. So the two men went ahead with the office call.

Meanwhile, the second World Trade Center tower was hit by another jet. "Nobody informed us of that," Myers said. "But when we came out, that was obvious. Then, right at that time, somebody said the Pentagon had been hit."


Somebody thrust a cell phone in Myers's hand. Gen. Ralph Eberhart, commander of U.S. Space Command and the North American Aerospace Defense Command, was on the other end of the line "talking about what was happening and the actions he was going to take."


http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10232001_200110236.html


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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:00 PM
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15. Sounds very strange indeed
Was the general in on it too? Was he trying to keep Max busy? :shrug: Maybe it should be looked into.
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:25 PM
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12. Sort of understandable.
The very first bit of it was assumed to be a tragic but random airline accident. If there was a long important meeting, they wouldn't have a radio or television there.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 05:08 AM
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19. Not understandable at all
No meeting is too important to interrupt the Acting Chief of Staff while an attack is in progress. Myers was the head of the military that day, it was his responsibility to respond immediately to the attack, not to go ho-hum don't bother me.

Besides Myers wasn't the only one who sat around waiting for the attack to finish before he responded appropriately. So did all of the rest of the people at the top of the chain of command, including Bush. Bush was too busy reading My Pet Goat. Cheney was too busy watching the attack on CNN before the SS came in a carried him off. Rummie and Wolfie were too busy continuing their meeting and claimed that there wasn't anything they could do about it anyway. Tenet was too busy finishing breakfast and then decided to drive from DC to Langley before he got in touch with anyone. I could go on, but I think you can start to get the picture.

So why did all of these people, who knew bin Laden was determined to attack, ignore the attack? Because all of the planes were supposed to take off by 8:01 AM. If the all of the planes had taken off on time, the attack would have been over by 9:00 AM. If everything had happened on time the people at the top level of command, wouldn't have gotten stuck with their pants down, waiting for the attack to finish. Instead they had to stall and as a result exposed themselves and the fact, that at the least, this was a LIHOP event.



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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 09:59 AM
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22. Damn! thank you.
That makes sense.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 06:11 PM
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3. According to people around him...
... he needed the money, and the job with the Export-Import Bank was a good one. I think requirements for a place on the commission were that one was completely independent (i.e., not holding a government position), so he couldn't do both at the same time.

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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 06:11 PM
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4. OK. I'm bad. I didn't know he'd been ON the commission.
:( It was probably done at the behest of Saxby Chambliss, if I had had to take a wild guess. After all, you couldn't have a comrade of Hussein and Bin Laden on the 9-11 Commssion. :sarcasm:
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 06:16 PM
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5. My hero would have told the truth so they sacked him....
Question I am a disabled person and I look to Max as my inspiration. Does anyone have his contact information? I did a yahoo search and came up with a nada unless I am miss spelling his name.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:04 PM
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16. Sorry I don't know
Have you tried yahoo?
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:14 PM
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18. yeah and when i type in the address
I keep getting a reply this email is no longer valid.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 06:29 PM
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7. Here's a link to an interesting article on this very topic:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:07 PM
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9. good find, thanks.
Seems Cleland was much more vocal about the impending whitewash than was acceptable to the Empire.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:07 PM
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11. We have to depend on a New Zealand website/newsource to provide real news.
Edited on Thu Aug-18-05 10:25 PM by CottonBear
It's sad. I had no idea of this whole aspect of the Cleland slime campaign by the Repubs. No wonder that he and McKinney were run out of office. :(
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:56 PM
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13. is it any wonder that our loved ones think we're lunatics
:eyes:
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:14 PM
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17. All of our relatives are Republicans. They think we're crazy.
:eyes:

How are you BTH? Hope your summer is going swimmingly! :) :hi:

We've been sick with a nasty summer head cold virus since last week. We may make it to the DU meetup on Saturday. We've not seen our horse (Cotton) since last Sat. (farm owners said "stay away" due to our colds) and our cat has a horrible flea allergy. We are the "House of Plague" at the moment.

Cheers! CB
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 05:15 AM
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20. Then why isn't he still vocal? Unless the MSM is stifling him, why
haven't we heard boo from him on the 9/11 Whitewash Commission Report?
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 09:54 AM
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21. this is what I find odd
Ibet there's an intriguing story here.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:49 AM
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23. Me too. n/t
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:26 PM
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10. more evidence of MIHOP n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:59 PM
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14. He was probably a threat to the administration
Edited on Thu Aug-18-05 10:59 PM by FreedomAngel82
Cleland is a truth seeker. He probably would've been a threat. Does anybody know why Bob was the one chosen? :shrug:
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