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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:01 PM
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Good article refuting piece of RW crap about Cindy Sheehan
http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/review/article_full_story.asp?service_ID=9532

Is Cindy Sheehan “Anti-Semite”?

Sheehan has been recently accused of being anti-Semite just because she said that if Israel’s occupation to Palestine ended it will contribute to a reduction in “terror”.

"Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full-well that my son, my family, this nation, and this world were betrayed by George Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agenda after 9/11," some media sources quoted Iraq war protestor Cindy Sheehan, whose 24-year-old son -- Army Spc. Casey Sheehan of Vacaville, California – died in Baghdad's Sadr City on April 4, as saying.

Calling Sheehan anti-Semite is simply obscene, all American Jews should pay close attention to the arguments the woman is trying to make on this occasion.

What's wrong in expressing her wish of ending the Israeli occupation in Palestine?

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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:05 PM
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1. Um... Nothing wrong with stating her opinion
but the fact is that she never said that. Her protest has nothing to do with anything but Casey and Iraq. ABC news attributed that quote to Cindy, Cindy denied ever saying it. ABC was asked to confirm the quote and said that an e-mail "on behalf of Cindy" was sent to them with that quote in it, when asked to produce the e-mail it magically disappeared
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:16 PM
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4. OK, that's the other thing wrong with it.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:14 PM
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2. The only thing wrong with it is...
for some people, Israeli occupation of Palestine means ALL of it. Not just the West bank and Gaza but Israel itself. I don't think she's anti-Semitic at all but I don't think she realizes that there's more than one way of defining Israeli occupation. Personally, I see this war as partially being in support of Israel but I don't think it will actually accomplish anything positive for Israel and it's certainly lousy for us. In some fantasyland where PNACers actually know how to handle war and occupation (or to accomplish the same goals without war) maybe getting rid of Saddam might have been good for Israel, but we'll never know because PNAC is criminally incompetent.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:15 PM
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3. Here is an article I wrote and posted on DU and on a right-wing blog
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 03:17 PM by IanDB1
For their help, a special Thank You to Douglas Carpenter, SledDriver.

Related thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=124&topic_id=98254&mesg_id=99406


I've posted this message on a right-wing blog that has been very willing to accept my dissenting views.

Thank you to all that helped with these thoughts, ideas and words.

Message post below:


People have been lying about Cindy Sheehan's thoughts on Israel & Jews



http://usaexposure.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=626


Cindy is an Arab sympathizer, just as she is a sympathizer for all human beings caught in the cross-hairs of the evil warmongers.

Cindy is a Jewish sympathizer.

Cindy is an Israeli sympathizer.

Cindy is an American sympathizer and most of all a sympathizer for our brave men and women who have been put in harm's way by a theocratic corporate-fascist regime.

Cindy supports Israel, Jews, and their right to live in their own homeland in peace.

Any statement otherwise shows a total lack of knowledge of who Cindy is or what she stands for, and anybody attributing her with such hate has been manipulated and misled by the right-wing echo-chamber desperately trying to Swiftboat her.

They right-wing corporfascist death machine is desperate to malign Cindy Sheehan with distortions and outright lies.

Here is what Cindy has said, in her own words:

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"Another "big deal" today was the lie that I had said that Casey died for Israel. I never said that, I never wrote that. I had supposedly said it in a letter that I wrote to Ted Koppel's producer in March. I wrote the letter because I was upset at the way Ted treated me when I appeared at a Nightline Town Hall meeting in January right after the inauguration. I felt that Ted had totally disrespected me. I wrote the letter to Ted Bettag and cc'd a copy to the person who gave me Ted's address. I believe he (the person who gave me the address) changed the email and sent it out to capitalize on my new found notoriety by promoting his own agenda. Enough about that"

the whole article is here:
http://cindysheehan.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/16/232347...

Cindy's whole kos diary which contains her thoughts on this and other issues is here :
http://cindysheehan.dailykos.com /
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They are desperate to deprive freedom-loving Americans of a powerful symbol that has been uniting people of conscience, and threatening to bring down the machinery of Bush's Rich Man's War.

The right-wing traitors lied about WMDs in Iraq, lied about Saddam's links to Al Qaeda, lied about our objectives in Iraq, and lied about supporting the troops. They rightly see Cindy as a threat to their plans of conquest and oppression both at home and abroad.

The Israel/Palestine thing is irrelevant to Cindy's stated objective.

Cindy's objective is the traitorous, un-American goal of bringing our sons and daughters safely home, and not letting them die for a war that was fought only for oil and ego, and has become un-winnable.

How do you ask someone to be the last man to die for a lie? In a war that can not be won due to the gross incompetence or willful negligence of a pResident who either failed to plan or chose not to plan a strategy for success?

I don't think she was "choosing sides", just using words in making a point -- throughout this whole thing NO ONE, so far, has used the other 'I' word - IMPEACHMENT.

Part of the problem is that the right wing has glommed onto the fact that the Crawford Peace House has been aiding her efforts, and the CPH has been, at times, outspoken about Palestinian rights and has emphasized the damage done to Iraqis during the current invasion and occupation.

So, in the minds of the right, this is guilt by association. For that reason, I would simply emphasize that her own remarks have been directed at Bush's reasons for this war. She has continued to say so all along. Her remarks should form the basis of any counter-argument. When the subject comes up, the question should be asked--what has Cindy Sheehan said to make one believe that she hates Israel?

The difficulty these days is that the right wing conceives of any social or moral support for ordinary Iraqis as supporting the enemy.

There's not much that can be done to counter that claim, except to say that our war in Iraq caused many innocents to be caught up in that violence, and that lack of recognition (or denial) of that fact doesn't improve America's image in the world, nor does it help bring about a quick end to the suffering.

And when Rush Limbaugh is broadcast worldwide on our state-sponsored Armed Forces Radio Network, and he calls the torture of civilians "harmless fraternity pranks" and sells "Club Gitmo" t-shirts to ridicule their suffering, that certainly does nothing to Win The Hearts and Minds of the Muslim World.

And neither does our chickenhawk deserter of a pResident saying, "Bring it on."

The war is a lie, and Cindy Sheehan is the truth, and if you don't understand that, then you can go suck it.

Posted on USAexposure.com
http://usaexposure.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=626
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