I Vant To FEEL You Up!! - Real photo of Arnold Groping Blonde!!

[Dems Will Win]

This is ShortsAreBigger groping a talk show host right on camera! As he drew his hand back he brushed her breast...

Did Maria ever see this? Oprah? And this was only 3 years ago!

http://eightballmagazine.com/diatribes/volume01/diatribes024/diatribes475-494/diatribes493.htm

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During his promotional visit to Britain this week Arnold Schwarzenegger groped Denise Van Outen on the Big Breakfast and behaved in a similarly oversexed and over here fashion with a clearly panicked Melanie Sykes on ITV's Celebrity.

The Sun in England newspaper reports that Sykes was chatting with Arnold when, as cameras rolled, he grabbed her around the waist.

She pushed his hand away, saying: "Get your hands off me - I'm scared."

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Marty Singer, Schwarzenegger's lawyer called all the complaints an "outrageous fabrication" by "people trying to get their 15 minutes of fame. Quite frankly, my client didn't do anything inappropriate."
Thank God for film. Look at the expression on his face. Look at her face. What you are looking at ladies and gentlemen is what Marty Singer likes to call an outrageous fabrication.
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[cally]

1. I happily told a reporter about this pic

at the code pink rally. She started to say the allegations are not verified and I mentioned this photo and asked if this is how he behaves on camera then I wonder how he behaves when the cameras are off. We'll see if I get quoted but she seemed very interested in this account.

[Dems Will Win]

2. Everybody e-mail this proof everywhere!

Can someone put up a list of media to send to?

[Dems Will Win]

60. Can someone put up a list?

I don't have one!

[Dems Will Win]

9. This was the trip where they called him "The Octopus"

All of England was abuzz and Maria was furious at him...

[LeftCoast]

3. Or what about this one?

This guy is just a dirty old man!

[Clark Can WIN]

4. I can't stand Arnie

but I could do that second one in less than 30 seconds in photoshop.

The first one, THAT is good, especially if the woman starts talking about it again!

[LeftCoast]

5. To my knowledge it's authentic

:shrug:

[Dems Will Win]

6. Child Molestation on Camera

And he bought all the Pumping Iron out-takes because the group sex he spoke of in Oui WAS ACTUALLY FILMED!

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

7. Photoshopped w/ a quick down and dirty...

I'd pretty much bet the farm on it.

[Dems Will Win]

8. The Groping Photo is definitely real--was seen by audience!

Britain watched this on TV and Maria asked him if he was crazy doing it before cameras.

The other photo could have been photoshopped but knowing what we know now, I would not be surprised if it were real...

[Scurrilous]

11. You are right. The photo is authentic.

My local news station showed the video of Arnold rubbing the woman's leg. It's the real deal.

[Jen72]

21. That was live TV too.

nt. A programme called The Big breakfast.

[Dems Will Win]

62. On a live show

That first picture is live TV. He's a sociopath and thinks he's invulnerable. That's what's so scary about him.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

53. I was only talking abt the second shot.

[Dems Will Win]

63. It's probably true too, he is a maniac

Everything else has been corroborated -- I would not be surprised at all!

[Cronus Protagonist]

14. I concur - photoshopped pic (the one with the kid) eom

[IMayBeWrongBut]

49. Definately the bonner is a photoshop one..

But they should have had steps for the girl.

[Dems Will Win]

65. Maybe not...

But the first one is definitely real.

[Clark Can WIN]

52. Oh, I'm not saying it's not authentic, wouldn't suprise me in the least

I'm just saying unless someone has the unretouched negative somewhere it's easy to discount.

The other one, that's another story.

[Dems Will Win]

56. why aren't we seeing it in the press?

Hmmm? It's proof that's why!

[blondeatlast]

22. The first one is very real; it was widely reported in the

European press.

[Dems Will Win]

61. Yes but never over here

It's a goddamn Republican/Corporatist Conspiracy!

[bahrbearian]

27. Where is his right arm?

[grasswire]

12. aghh!

Is that a bulge in his pants? Something is weird about the back of that girl's leg and his pants.

[Guaranteed]

19. He's humping her leg. n/t

[DrBB]

36. "Feel-up" is real, "boner" is a maybe

This sub-thread threw me as I at first thought the claim was about the original photo in this thread. That one would be VERY hard to have faked with Photoshop or anything else--the body positions and the physical contact points between the two people are just too perfect. Of course it's not really in dispute anyway, but the point is worth looking at for purposes of comparison.

Because the boner picture WOULD be easier to fake. It's just that one discrete spot on the image that you'd be working with, and there are Photoshop extensions that can do that kind of stretching. You'd have to do some careful marqueeing and layering to affect his trousers without affecting the girl's leg, though--it wouldn't be all THAT straightforward. Which is why I'm surprised that when I downloaded it and blew it up, I didn't see any evidence of tampering, just the usual jpeg compression effects. I checked light-shadow continuity across the clearly unaffected area to the area in question, and it looks continuous to me. Jpeg compression creates some blockiness at that scale, particularly because web resolution--72ppi--is so low, so there are limits to what you can find. But actually that tends to make things harder for the hoaxer: little lines and bad aliasing that don't show up at hi-res sudden jump into stark relief when you compress the image, especially at the edges where you've done your marqueeing.

I work with this stuff a LOT, professionally, and I actually didn't see the kinds of tell-tales I was looking for here at either the gross or fine-grained level. And I've had no problem debunking other Photoshopped images that people swore were authentic.

I'm not endorsing this pic as genuine: I really doubt its credibility on prima facie grounds (involuntary erections happen, or even not-so-involuntary ones, but come on--he's not fourteen anymore). But I expected to see artifacts of manipulation, and didn't.

[Dems Will Win]

48. The boner pic is real?!?!?!

If you are right and it sounds like you are that is really a sicko deal.

[IMayBeWrongBut]

50. It looks like the bonner is faked to me

Those anti-alias affects you are talking about could have been removed by saving it as a grayscale image from a color one. The fact that the image is in grayscale tells me they were trying to hide something.

[Dems Will Win]

51. It doesn't matter if 2 is fake if #1 is real

Now does it?

[9215]

38. What about the bulge in his pants!!?

Is this a doctored photo?

[THUNDER HANDS]

64. OH MY GOD

I kept scrolling down waiting for what was so bad....

then I found it.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

10. I just sent this to Bernie Ward...could be interesting!

[grasswire]

13. look at that pic again!

I can't think of an explanation for the juxtaposition of that girl's leg and the way his pants are.

[thebigidea]

15. looks like photoshop to me as well - someone used the smudge tool

how many times do you get to say: "that hardon looks a bit off to me" in conversation?

[Dems Will Win]

55. The explanation is he is not gubernatorial material

And you won't see this pic on CNN or FOX.

[Dems Will Win]

24. Who else can the Van Outen picture be sent to?

We have 72 hours to tell Truth to Power.

[lumpy]

16. What is really sick is that he allegedly asked a woman

if she had ever had a tongue put into her anus. If I remember correctly this was an account in a magazine article. If true, this man is beyond just a sicko.

[thebigidea]

17. ha! i missed that bit

I knew that Ahnold had a bit of an ass fetish, but I didn't know it got that feeeeeeelthy.

Insert South Park riff here. German scat videos. Cough. cough.

[bahrbearian]

26. Didn't Hitler have an Ass fetish too?

[Selwynn]

18. That is the most piss-poor FAKE I have ever seen

Wow... the cut and paste head is really convincing.

Of course the allegations are true. This however, is not a true pic.

[blondeatlast]

23. If you are talking about the color photo, it happened on live TV and

was widely reported in the European press. It is most definitely for real.

[Jen72]

20. That is Denise Van Outen..

She is fiesty,loud mouthed,was once labeled a ladette and popular TV presenter and actress.As is Melanie Skyes, they are no shrinking violets. And neither of them need publicity to boost their careers either.
He is so brazen that he groped Denise Van Outen live on Breakfast TV, that is were that clip is from.

[NicoleM]

25. It's real.

I saw the video on the TeeVee the other day.

[Dems Will Win]

28. Look At her face

and look at him enjoying himself!

[Former Republican]

29. May I ask what the big deal is?

All I see from all these accusations is that Arnold Schwarzenegger likes women. A majority of Western males do likewise.

[noiretextatique]

30. do the majority of western males grab women's breasts

without their permission? i can't imagine they do...unless they are under the age of 12.

[Dems Will Win]

31. He took off the woman's bathing suit in the elevator

--that's more than gropery, is it not? That's Sexual Assault. He is a predator.

[noiretextatique]

33. i agree

:puke: a disgusting PIG and a sexual predator :puke:

[maha]

32. Do the words "sexual assault" mean anything to you?

In most civilized places, if a man randomly grabs women's breast or puts his hands under their skirts, it's a crime.

A man who "likes women" does not go around assaulting them.

[Jen72]

34. Is it for western men ok to grope a woman live on TV?

Arnie actually doesn't like women, he shows total disrespect and a need to dominate and humiliate them.

[noiretextatique]

35. on second thought: WTF is this "western males" shit?

a culture that requires women to be covered from head to toe as "normal"...and a culture that objectifies the bodies of women as "normal"...are just different sides of the SAME misogynistic coin.
i pray that "woman-loving" pervert runs into a woman who can, and will kick his pathetic ass...with the camera's rolling.

[blondeatlast]

39. Amen, my sister! I would pay to see that! And pray . . .

What a perfect idea.

[Former Republican]

41. I hope you understand that what you say is insulting to Islam

It's very bigoted actually.

[noiretextatique]

42. oh really...is that why you specified "western males"

in your post...out of "respect" for islam? i don't know that the koran, anymore than the bible, requires that men be misogynistic jerks, though religion is a convienent excuse. and certainly, some moslems don't believe the koran gives them the right to control women. i hope you know that implying so makes you a bigot.

[Susang]

46. I've been groped by almost every nationality

When you work in a bar it unfortunately comes with the territory. If FormerRepublican thinks Islamic men don't grope women, then he's welcome to try working at a nightclub in Dearborn Michigan dressed in a mini-skirt sometime. It might do him some good to be exposed to the real world sometime. :mad:

[salin]

40. I shouldn't be demeaned as a professional

by having to fend off someone I have to deal with professionally from grabbing my breasts, reaching up my skirt, leaning in and suggesting vulgar sex acts.

If I have to take to only wearing certain clothes around this person I work with (really baggy sweatshirts... crotch hanging down pants (so he can't grab my ass or other easily)... and have to alter my work efforts inefficiently (always have a witness or two so he won't pull something... which is inefficient because another worker has to be pulled off what he or she is being paid to do) ... it aversely effects me as a professional.

This is more than a guy liking to look at/ogle the ladies. It seems to be as much about power as anything else, and a sense of entitlement towards women he encounters as 'meat' that he has the right to grab/fondle/etc whether the person wants it or not.

[Bandit]

47. Republican western males maybe ~ They don't much care for laws

Are you sure you are a former republican? You seem to expouse their values or lack there of.

[oldcoot]

58. He does not like women!

Being sexually attracted to women is not the same as liking them! As I have said before, I really do not care about any consensual relations he may have had with consenting adults. However, I do consider groping and kissing women against their will a form of assault. If he really had respect for these women, he would have asked to make sure his attentions were wanted. He also would not have groped these women in front of other men. The only purpose of grabbing a woman's ass or breast in front of others is to humiliate her. Only a total misogynist pig would think that such behavior is okay.

If you have a hard time grasping the seriousness of these women's complaints against Schwarzenegger, imagine having a woman or man grab you in a sexually suggestive manner in front of others. How would you feel? Would you be humiliated? Think about it.

[Loyal]

37. Ew

Sick bastard.

[Sticky]

43. Keith Olberman mentioned this incident

last night on Countdown.....he said Melanie Sykes did not want to come forward.
I've been watching way to much TV lately but I'm almost sure it was Keith olberman.

[Sticky]

44. Keith Olberman mentioned this incident

last night on Countdown.....he said Melanie Sykes did not want to come forward.
I've been watching way to much TV lately but I'm almost sure it was Keith olberman.

[Dems Will Win]

45. It's Denise Van Outen getting groped in the picture

Sykes was still ANOTHER gropee for the Gropinator...

[Dems Will Win]

54. Why is this picture not on MSNBCFOXCNNABCCBS like Monica was??

How many times did you see Monica get hugged by Clinton, and how many times have you seen this Van Outen picture on the national news?

[Selwynn]

57. BECAUSE ITS A FAKE PICTURE FOR GODS SAKE!!!

It doesn't even try to hide how fake it is.

[Dems Will Win]

59. You think Van OUten picture was fake? Tell that to the LIVE TV audience

who saw it in 2000.