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Badger1 Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:16 PM
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1960's - 70's Comrades
Where are you now? Want to know.
Child of the 70's.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:24 PM
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1. I'm right here.
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 10:24 PM by evlbstrd
60s and 70s.
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Badger1 Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:30 PM
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2. We have much work to do my friend.
The trenches once again await us. And again we will show no fear on our march into battle for what is right and just. And again we will show no mercy when we confront the enemy, for they are evil. "Bring em on!"
As Dylan said, " the battle outside it is raging, it will soon shake your windows and rattle your walls , for the times they are a changing"
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:32 PM
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4. I went to DC.
The energy was amazing and focused. Now I'm working on electronic voting in my city and county.
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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:39 PM
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8. I am here at your side
I'm a child of the 60s

Masters of war...Bob Dylan

Come you masters of war
You that build all the guns
You that build the death planes
You that build the big bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks

You that never done nothin'
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it's your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly

Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain

You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud

You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins

How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I'm young
You might say I'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know
Though I'm younger than you
Even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do

Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul

And I hope that you die
And your death'll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand o'er your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:32 PM
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3. I'm right here Badger1
I'm getting ready to watch the fireworks that will begin very soon.
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saged52 Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:35 PM
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5. another comrade here!
My thoughts and ideas have remained the same. Finally got around to marrying my high school sweetie - we grow our hair long, we raise our own produce, we donate all we can to the environment and other assorted charities, we sign all the petitions we can, we have a huge peace flag flying, we vote Democratic, we are a union household, and we plan on working to get a Democratic representative elected for our area in '06. In other words - we are pretty much in the same place we were in 1969!
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Badger1 Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:38 PM
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6. Thank you n/t
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:38 PM
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7. I'm here.
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 10:39 PM by Beam Me Up
Alternating between fear and a sort of determined resignation. You speak in militant terms in post #2 above. Have you read the below? I wonder what you think:

...knowledge brings responsibility. If we acknowledge that an inner circle of ruling elites controls the world's most powerful military and intelligence system; controls the international banking system; controls the most effective and far-reaching propaganda network in history; controls all three branches of government in the world's only superpower; and controls the technology that counts the people's votes, we might be then forced to conclude that we don't live in a particularly democratic system. And then voting and making contributions and trying to stay informed wouldn't be enough. Because then the duty of citizenship would go beyond serving as a loyal opposition, to serving as a "loyal resistance"—like the Republicans in the Spanish Civil War, except that in this case the resistance to fascism would be on the side of the national ideals, rather than the government; and a violent insurgency would not only play into the empire's hands, it would be doomed from the start.

Forming a nonviolent resistance movement, on the other hand, might mean forsaking some middle class comfort, and it would doubtless require a lot of work. It would mean educating ourselves and others about the nature of the truly apocalyptic beast we face. It would mean organizing at the most basic neighborhood level, face to face. (We cannot put our trust in the empire's technology.) It would mean reaching across turf lines and transcending single-issue politics, forming coalitions and sharing data and names and strategies, and applying energy at every level of government, local to global. It would also probably mean civil disobedience, at a time when the Bush regime is starting to classify that action as "terrorism." In the end, it may mean organizing a progressive confederacy to govern ourselves, just as our revolutionary founders formed the Continental Congress. It would mean being wise as serpents, and gentle as doves.

It would be a lot of work. It would also require critical mass. A paradigm shift.

More can be found here: Paranoid Shift


Wise as serpents... how many of us can claim THAT?

M<I

Edit, clarification

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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:39 PM
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9. I'm with you guys. (n/t)
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saged52 Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:45 PM
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10. and where are you comrade child of the 70's?
want to know! are we on the same page?
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Badger1 Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:51 PM
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12. 1960's Protest
There were so many people involved in the protests of the 1960s. Where is the response now? Everyone involved must be 45 to 60 years old now. Where are you now?

Wife of Badger1
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saged52 Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:05 PM
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13. I've been thinking about that alot, also
I wonder if a lot of us are reading DU, watching and reading the news and just doing our venting at home. I wonder how ticked off we have to get before we will simply get up and be active. Although, back in the late sixties there were protests, rallies, sit-ins, etc. in nearly every city and/or college campus nearly every single weekend. One did not have to travel far or plan ahead to attend. And a widespread revolution with positive results does take time!
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:48 PM
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11. Hangin and waitin....
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Badger1 Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:08 PM
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14. I don't think we can wait anymore
I too have been waiting. I feel that I've been asleep or in a coma for the past few years. I've attended protests, put up anti bush signs on my car and lawn, became a voting official in our town but still do not feel that I have done enough to protect us from these evil bastards. That has changed. We have to learn how to finish off our opponents when they are down, cleats to the neck and finish, something the MN Vikings never learned. I'm sorry, no mercy get busy and finish them off. Letters to the editor, local protests, signs , stickers all over town. Republican corruption, Iraq fiasco, tax breaks to the richest with the greatest deficit even , on and on and on. Get em NOW! While the window of opportunity is open. It will be closed very soon. The enemy is very cunning and clever.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:10 PM
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15. I'm here, too - child of the '60s
Just got back from DC Monday night. Still carrying on.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:15 PM
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16. I'm new, but I'm with you. The DC march, despite all the
complaints from people who watched it on TV, helped me solidify my position(s). The people I hooked up with helped as well. I'm no longer afraid of the "extremist" label; instead I care about getting shit done. And I have realized the futility of doing it by the usual ways, or at least I'm COMING to realize that it's futile. I'm already working on some "outside" projects; even if they fail, it's the MOST I can do instead of the least, which, IMO, is continuing to buy into a system that is so obviously not working, despite so many people's faith in "our leaders" to "rectify" the wrongs of this system.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:05 AM
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17. Here and hopeful
was at my daughters house tonight for supper and her SO's daughter came in and showed me a bumper sticker she had, it said Dem's Rock...it was the Jr. Dems meeting tonight and all of a sudden she says she is very committed. Going to Madison and Washington this year...I'm so proud....
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:59 AM
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18. I'm still here man... but I don't know for how long
I'm tired of this same old imperialist shit... Never changes.... Thinking of moving to Europe... like their thinking over there.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:04 PM
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19. Here, doing my thing.
Waiting for the resumption of the interrupted American revolution.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:16 PM
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20. ¡Saludo camarada! Still here, just moved a bit to the left.
Just like my father, I'm still cussin' the moderates and waiting for the barricades to go up and the system to come down.
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Saphire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:44 PM
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21. I'm here, too.
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