Reid, Hackett, and Brown: Connections over policies?

[jsamuel]

Reid told Hackett apparently that Brown was going to get the Dems' support for Senate in Ohio.

Is this evidence of the Dems having preordained candidates?

Only those with connections and that have been "in the family" will get the big nod for senate?

[jsamuel]

1. kick

[msongs]

2. link? source? nt

[jsamuel]

3. from LBN

Brown enters race for DeWine seat,strikes a nerve (Hackett 'betrayed'?)

[jsamuel]

4. from GD Politics:

Paul Hackett Lays In to Harry Reid (can anyone confirm this?)

[Armstead]

5. Brown is a really good progressive with a track record

Hackett is a political newcomer and -- aside from his refreshing bluintness -- an unknown quantity.

Brown is exactly the kind of progressive populist we need in the Senate. He's fought for fair trade and econiomic justice for years. Imagine what someone like that would do in the Senate.

IMO Hackett should concentrate on running for a House seat and support Brown for the Senate.

Editorial by Brown in 2003:


http://www.house.gov/sherrodbrown/columns/TheGlobalEconomy.htm

In 1999, thousands gathered to protest the World Trade Organization (WTO) ministerial meeting in Seattle. In September 2003, thousands more will gather in Cancun, Mexico, as international leaders meet for the fifth WTO ministerial.
These demonstrators will be demanding comprehensive reforms to an international trade system that has failed to improve the social and economic conditions for millions around the globe. The WTO model - forcing poor countries to open markets to wealthy nations - is not working. The failures of the WTO are nowhere clearer than in agriculture policy. In the United States and across the globe, rural economies and farmers have been devastated by artificially low prices in almost every major commodity. Large, multinational corporations now control trade in major commodities by selling below the cost of production on the global market.

WTO policies have led to economic insecurity, instability and an increase in illegal crops and crime throughout the developing world....

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[in_cog_ni_to]

6. What? I thought Hackett had gone to DC and talked with the Senators

and THAT was why he decided to run. I assumed they had asked him to run? Who the hell is Brown anyway and WHY would the Senate Dems want him to run instead of an ex-Marine who ALMOST beat a repuke in a repuke district? I hope this isn't true. :(

[dsc]

8. Brown has been in Congress for a decade

and was elected statewide in 1982. Other than that he is just some nobody.

[sandnsea]

24. This just isn't right

You and I are agreeing on waaaay too much stuff lately. :)

[in_cog_ni_to]

28. I didn't know we were talking about SHERROD Brown. I KNOW who he is.

I love the guy! I didn't know he was running for the Senate.

[dsc]

29. fair enough

He had said he wouldn't then changed his mind. His district abutted mine for a few years and he was great.

[Cocoa]

10. you don't know Sherrod Brown?

Look him up, he's one of the good ones.

[in_cog_ni_to]

27. OOOOOH! Sherrod!!!! I LOVE that man! LOVE his deep husky voice.

OK. I know who he is. I didn't know that's who we were talking about.

[Cocoa]

7. this stinks

boo to false rumors dressed up as innocent questions. :-(

[jsamuel]

13. I just think we need to keep an eye on ourselves as well as Repubs

And when I see Hackett get Brown to say he wasn't running this time, then turns around 2 days later and anounces he is running...

I just want to make sure that when the Dems come back to power that we DON'T BECOME JUST LIKE REPUBS.

If this is false WONDERFUL!

[Cocoa]

16. your explanation makes no sense

it has nothing to do with whether or not what you posted above is true.

Posting unsupported, divisive insinuations about dems is not becoming like republicans.??? :wtf:

[jsamuel]

18. I'll continue to give Reid the benefit of the doubt.

I'll try not to be "divisive", but I won't stand for any of what I think may be going on. I can post it. You don't have to like it.

Hackett yelled at Reid for something. I highly doubt it had anything to do with Miers as the people reporting it were not part of the conversation. However, a day later after Hackett yells at Reid we find out that Brown is now running. There is at least the appearance of something going on behind the scenes here. You may call it "unsupported", but I see it as mearly bringing up the subject with a reasonable amount of info from other threads. If the mods don't like it, they have my support to pull the thread.

[Cocoa]

21. Hackett didn't yell at Reid

please stop spreading that story which originated with an anonymous poster on a conservative website. You and others keep repeating that story like it's a fact. It's not a fact, it's a rumor, and it stinks.

Sherrod Brown and Paul Hackett are both excellent candidates. But if either of them is the preference of the dem leadership, it's Hackett.

That's my OPINION. I'm not going to make up some story to make it sound like it's a fact, I'm just going to say it's my opinion.

[jsamuel]

22. ok, sorry

We both agree on most things, we don't need to be arguing. Your right about the source, it is a bad one.

[FreedomAngel82]

25. I personally don't know much about Brown

But if he has way more experience and a very good and impressive record I can see why Reid would go for him over Hackett. I like experience myself. This last mayor race here in my town I didn't even think of voting for this one canidate who had no political experience before. I think Hackett should start off small and work his way up. Why not try for a state seat and then try for senate? That's what is going on here in my state. One woman who has been in the state senate for a good while is now going to run for Senate. I really do like Hackett and if he wants to run then run against Brown and let the voters decide. Reid can support Brown if he wants but it should be the people who decide who gets the seat. If Hackett really believes in running and believes in being involved in politics then he should do it anyways with or without the support of Reid. Reid has his own reasonings for supporting Brown over Hackett and that's him.

[Punkingal]

9. This is what Harry Reid does...

He picks the candidates in Nevada, and now he's picking them on a national level, and he doesn't give a shit what we the people might want.

[Cocoa]

11. Reid supports Hackett's candidacy

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/10/05/6_iraq_war_veterans_running_for_congress/

On Monday, with support from Senator Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat who is the minority leader, Hackett decided to seek a higher office: the Senate seat now held by Mike DeWine, a two-term Republican.

[Punkingal]

12. well, my bad....

I thought I read here somewhere that Harry and Hackett had a big disagreement and after that Brown decided to run. You have to forgive me....I know Harry and how he has screwed Nevada Democtratic politics, and I always think the worst of him.

[Cocoa]

17. "somewhere" was RedState.org

why we're getting our info on critical elections from conservative websites, I'll never understand.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2136932


and by the way, the answer to the original poster's question, "can anyone confirm this?" is "no."

[jsamuel]

14. That article doesn't even mention that Brown is running

I hope Reid still supports Hackett now that Brown is running.

[Bill Bored]

15. Self-deleted

[sandnsea]

19. Reid wants to win Ohio, with a progressive

The bastard.

[jsamuel]

20. I don't really know much about Hackett, are you saying he isn't progress.?

[sandnsea]

23. I'm saying Brown is

Hackett, on the other hand, took some positions that weren't within the mainstream of the Democratic Party, say on guns for instance. He's also flipped around on Iraq, from supporting victory to his current position which I guess is immediate withdrawal. I haven't personally decided which I prefer, but I can see why Reid would choose a proven candidate in Ohio because we need that Senate seat. He isn't a traitorous bastard for supporting Brown, if that's what he's doing. Hackett said "chickenhawk" and the left loved him, despite the fact that he was supporting victory in Iraq at the same time. Too many people just flat don't listen to anything beyond the hype, including the left. That's how we end up with all these shitty officials, from Jesse Ventura to Ahnuld to George Bush. It's got to stop.

[FreedomAngel82]

26. I do agree

Reid knows that the Ohio seat is important and we should win that seat. Hackett is a newcomer and I do like him a lot and hope to see him more involved in politics. We have to do whatever we can (fair and legally of course) to win back the House and Senate. Hackett did an amazing job against what's her name and I'll always remember that and be amazed. But 2006 is our last chance to get justice (unless something happens with Fitzgerald). Even though I'm still new to Reid I'm slowly but surely beginning to trust him. Sure, sometimes I don't get his plans and get upset like the rest but after calming down and thinking I realize he's just as good, if not better, then Karl Rove at politics. Reid is playing against the big guns now and we need to step up the playing field level big time. No more nicey-nicey crap.

[jsamuel]

30. Now Schumer calls Hackett and tells him to bow to Brown

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5021131