RW'ers try to connect Clinton to Iraq

[ck4829]

RW'ers have been going around and trying defend Bush by saying "You stupid Liberals, Clinton wanted to go to war with Iraq!!!!"

Ah, but Clinton lose almost 2000 young men and women in Iraq?

Did Clinton and friends actually try to go around and saying that "We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud"?

[OldLeftieLawyer]

1. Did Clinton sit in a first-grade classroom,

frozen, frightened, and confused, for how many minutes?

They got nothing.

[Zynx]

They must know it was a bad idea then.

If they are trying to say, "Well, Clinton would have done the same." they must know it was a fuckup.

[gademocrat7]

2. I am sick and tired of all the rethugs mistakes being blamed on President

Will they ever take responsibility for all the evil they have perpetrated on us? A sex act between consenting adults did not cause the deaths of Americans or Iraqis. WE had a surplus when Clinton left office. Where is it now?

[gatorboy]

3. Ah, The Ole Clinton Iraq Liberation Act.

It's true that Clinton set up such an act. But if you look at the details,

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c105:H.R.4655.ENR:

SEC. 7. ASSISTANCE FOR IRAQ UPON REPLACEMENT OF SADDAM HUSSEIN REGIME.

It is the sense of the Congress that once the Saddam Hussein regime is removed from power in Iraq, the United States should support Iraq's transition to democracy by providing immediate and substantial humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people, by providing democracy transition assistance to Iraqi parties and movements with democratic goals, and by convening Iraq's foreign creditors to develop a multilateral response to Iraq's foreign debt incurred by Saddam Hussein's regime.

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It says nothing about invading Iraq and leaving a strong U.S. military force there for years....

Plus, when you consider the small budget for to the act:

(2) MILITARY ASSISTANCE- (A) The President is authorized to direct the drawdown of defense articles from the stocks of the Department of Defense, defense services of the Department of Defense, and military education and training for such organizations.

(B) The aggregate value (as defined in section 644(m) of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961) of assistance provided under this paragraph may not exceed $97,000,000.


It's highly unlikely Clinton wanted to take the same approach. Clinton wanted to take a "Overthrow Iraq from Within" approach.

Nothing like what Bush has done...

[drummo]

7. Right. The ILA did not give authority to the president to use force

in any shape or fashion to change the regime in Iraq.

It allowed to use the US military for advisory role but that was it.

It was for triggering an internal revolt against Saddam by supporting various opposition groups.

If the ILA had been a war resolution Bush wouldn't have needed a war resolution in 2002. I think that's obvious.

[drummo]

4. You stupid conservatives! Liberals don't like Clinton."

[noahmijo]

5. Ugh If Clinton wanted to go to war against Iraq THE PNAC wouldn't have

minded!

In fact the PNAC TOLD CLINTON TO GO TO WAR with Iraq!.

What was stopping Clinton from war with Iraq?? A REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED CONGRESS???

Fucking flat earthers.


PS This Liberals LOVES Bill Clinton. He made some mistakes and I don't agree with every decisions he ever made, but right now I'll take a thousand Bill Clintons over ANY Republican currently serving.

[TheCowsCameHome]

6. Even if he DID want to go, it was BUSH that actually did. And now look

at the mess we are in.

What a stupid argument for the RWingers to use.

[rosesaylavee]

8. I think Clinton supported 'regime change' in Iraq

but that is a far cry from taking our children to war, unilaterally, against Iraq on trumped charges of WMDs threatening the US.

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. Very different. It's one thing to wish for, another to jump in feet first

And Bush went in without thinking of the consequences.

And look where we are now..............

[napi21]

10. Yes, he did support regime change, but he believed in a different

method of ridding Iraq of Sadaam. He believed that the sanctions were working, and probably would have over time.

I've also heard RWers saying that Clinton went to war in Kosovo WITHOUT authorization of Congress. He did! But, it was a total air war, and there were NO US troops lost there either!

[FrankBooth]

11. Anybody who regurgitates that crap is a moron

and not worth having a conversation with.