Does any of you truly believe that Rove didn't tell B about the leak?

[Seansky]

or at least Wilson's wife name and role?

It's really hard to believe that Rove is that loyal to B that he will knowingly no tell B something in case it leaks in the future and Rove wants to make sure B doesn't get into hot waters.

I just can't believe Rove is THAT loyal and protect B that much...

[texpatriot2004]

1. I'm not buying it...are you? Of course Karl told him. n/t

[Seansky]

5. I just can buy it at all. If Rove didn't tell B, then B is the real idiot

we have always thought he was and is just a puppet being used for "greater" goals.

I believe Rove told him and B is still a puppet.

On Edit: CAN'T BUY IT AT ALL

[DoYouEverWonder]

2. Yes, because it was Bush who told Rove

when he called him from Air Force 1 on the way to Africa.

[texpatriot2004]

10. Or, perhaps you're right and this is the way it went but * knows. n/t

[SteppingRazor]

3. I can't believe he's that loyal and protective...

But I can believe that Rove wouldn't tell Bush, simply because it wouldn't cross his mind. Why tell Bush? Why not let the adults handle these matters?

That sort of reasoning.

[Seansky]

6. yeah, that's the only way I could come close to believing Rove

didn't tell him...If that is the case, then B is just the puppet they needed to carry out their agenda.

[savemefromdumbya]

4. I'm sure this was a hot topic between them

mainly because they all have to meet if there is trouble brewing

[jarnocan]

7. I thought it was even weird

that the AP and then MSNBC would consider it a "news' story; the 'Whitehouse' said Rove didn't tell Bush, DUH, why should one more perdictable lie be news? I hope the indicments come soon.

[Seansky]

9. good point.

[Jackpine Radical]

8. B? You mean Barney?

I think Barney has plausible deniability. Karl never tells Barney anything. Barney is just a poor, sad little out-of-the loop dog who spends most of his life hiding from the sadistic humans around him.

[Seansky]

11. VERY Funny!

[samdogmom]

12. Bush is known for holding a grudge and getting even.

I believe he's been in on the plot since it was hatched. His whole family retaliates when they're crossed. He would definitely be in the know and probably helped with the planning.

[Inland]

13. Like all crime bosses, Bush isn't explicitly told anything.

Nor does he ask. He has given Rove reason to believe that he wishes dirty tricks done, leaves the details to Rove, and when Rove is caught, will deny all knowledge.

Of coure, this sort of deniability doesn't work when Bush is under a duty to actually ASK Rove, and indeed, ASK everyone in the WH.

By waiting to see who gets convicted and by not conducting an investigatino, Bush has shown that he is willing to let a traitor work for him for years. That's one fact established even if nobody is indicted: Bush doesn't care if he starts every day with a security leak in the Oval Offices, as long as the leaker attacks on his behalf. Worst. President. Ever.

[Cheney Killed Bambi]

14. I'm sure Bush knew the truth

The interesting thing, though, is if Rove's case goes to trial, will Fitz call Bush as a witness for the prosecution?

[Seansky]

18. That IS a thought didn't cross my mind YET...so many new "lost" info

has been comming to surface I haven't thought that far out yet..

[Drewskie]

15. ...

guilt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. Wink wink

"Mr. President, please understand that I am not telling you I made any leaks."

"OK, I understand. You didn't make any leaks."

"Ah, er, Mr. President, I didn't say that. I said I'm not telling you I made any leaks."

"Oh, I get it now. You DID make some leaks."

"George! Let's pretend we didn't have this chat."

"OK, Karl, if you say so."

"I do say so. I mean, I didn't say. Oh fuck."

[Seansky]

19. This is a gret one. I wouldn't doubt it could have actually gone this way

[sam sarrha]

17. He did get fired by Poppy Bu$h for doing that during his presidency.

:shrug: :spray: :rofl:

[Seansky]

20. you would think that counted for something, but, when kids want to

prove their parents wrong...nothing can get in their way, even if it is illegal...