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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:21 AM
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Rock groups should cancel touring.
Musicians should take the lead in promoting gas conservation. The amount of fuel required to haul equipment, the band, and roadies around in giant-ass tour buses is obscene. Then when you add the additional waste of thousands of people driving to the shows in their gas-guzzling cars, you get even more waste.

Er...on second thought, I like live music, so let's give it a pass and blame other things.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:25 AM
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1. Actually, quite a few tours have attempted sustainability lately.
There's a movement to make touring C02 neutral.

Here's one example:

http://www.clifbar.com/connect/release.cfm?location=press&id=104
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:30 AM
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2. Willie Nelson and Neil Young are both big supporters of bio-diesel
As it becomes more cost-effective, you'll see the trucking industry going that way, too--which will make a huge difference. I think we're about five years away from having a substantial fleet of hybrid/bio vehicles on the road, if gas prices stay high.
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_ed_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:48 AM
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6. Willie's bus is powered by Bio Diesel
Also, a small bluegrass act from California called the Hot Buttered Rum String Band uses only biodiesel to power thier bus. I'm sure there are more out there.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:53 AM
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9. Willie's also a big investor in the biodiesel industry
He's trying to help create the infrastructure and get info out into the mainstream arena.
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_ed_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:28 AM
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16. I love Willie.
Great guy and a great musician.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:28 AM
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17. Did you see his performance last year at the DNC?
So beautiful- Willie rocks!!!! :)
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_ed_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:35 AM
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19. I don't remember that, so probably no
I just saw him a month ago at Red Rocks. Fantastic.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:29 AM
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18. Welcome to DU, _ed_.
Yep, Willie's cool. Incredibly weird in some ways, which is why I like him.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 07:41 PM
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27. Yeah, Willie will be in our neighborhood performing this month.
I guess we should check out his ride.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:33 AM
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3. OK by me.
I decided long ago that I would rather pay $17.00 for a CD I can listen to over and over again than $100.00 for an evening's experience fighting crowds, hearing music I like at an ear-splitting volume, and a few good moments that I will barely be able to remember after a few years pass. Just make sure all the obnoxious country groups cancel their tours, too.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:55 AM
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And support your local musicians...
Those in search of live music can find good local & regional bands playing in their own town. Some less-known but still excellent national & international musicians also tour the country--sometimes solo, sometimes with a band, but with minimal baggage.

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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:22 AM
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12. I'm with you Bridget
as a local actually working local musician-and you know what?there IS a lot of support from the people I play to-and for
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:36 AM
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20. It's good for the patrons, too.
It's all too easy for us old folks to sit at home listening to our CD's (or our ancient vinyl) & complaini about kids these days. Their music is noise!

There's a lot of different music out there. Beyond the giant tours & the commercial radio chains.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:33 AM
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4. The price of gas alone seems like it will promote conservation. I'm
thinking that cancelling someone's livelihood on a whim is not too likely to happen. There are probably other things that use way more gas (how much gas is used when 50,000 people show up every week for a college or pro football game?) that could be cancelled too, but that would be arbitrary. But since my tax dollars are paying for school buses, I wouldn't have a problem with banning high schoolers from driving to school.
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:45 AM
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5. We could do an online concert!
Although we wouldn't be able to watch since we don't have broadband...we could play though. *sigh*

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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:48 AM
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7. some tours are using biodiesel now
willie nelson runs on vegetable oil. neil young uses biodiesel.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:52 AM
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8. I must disagree
while the big name stars could get by without touring, many of the middle or lower end musicians have to tour to survive. They just do not make much off of CD sales and depend on the income from live shows.
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junkiebrewster Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:08 AM
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11. As a musician...
This is the truth.

Most musicians make their money from live shows and from selling merchandise at liev shows. A ban on touring only hurts the little guys.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:55 AM
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10. No way
Edited on Mon Oct-10-05 09:55 AM by Botany
i just got tickets (front row center) for the Backstreet Boys reunion
tour.

BSB :yourock: :rofl:
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:24 AM
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13. Good for you!
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Lengsel Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:26 AM
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14. riiiiiiggght
Yeah, people should postpone their livelihoods, put their careers on hold, and starve.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:27 AM
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15. LOL - your such a kidder!
You always forget the :sarcasm: smiley :D
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:37 AM
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21. Y'know, whenever I make a sarcastic post...
I always try to include a little clue that it's sarcasm. In this case, I think the last paragraph should make it clear.

Often people read too fast and miss the clues. It's all good, though, since I do the same thing sometimes. :)
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 07:07 PM
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24. I think you got a devious idea from a previous post earlier today
I noticed the person didn't get the sarcasm and blasted you. I almost didn't get it, but then I realized what was up after reading it again. Yer bad :D
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 01:54 PM
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22. Good second thought, I suggest cancelling the war instead
Tour buses ain't got nothin' on all them tanks and planes, man.
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mshasta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 01:59 PM
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23. GREENDAY is passing a huge good
message to the youth !!! I went to the concert in sac...and it was amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 07:15 PM
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25. Americas youth? I am 50 fecking years old & GD is all I been listening to
Lately anyway.

Don
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mshasta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 07:26 PM
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26. that is why I said youth
.....never too old to get the message.. :bounce:
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 07:54 PM
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28. They should stop making vinyl records too!
Does anyone realize how many brazilions of barrels of petroleum resources are used every year by the recording industry in the pressing process?

How many more of our GI's must die so we can listen to our precious recordings of "Bat Out of Hell", "Thriller" and "Led Zeppelin IV"?
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