Able Danger Secrets (Mistekenly?) Sent to Whistleblower

[paineinthearse]

Talk about the gang that couldn't shoot straight!!! :rofl:

http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/index.php?p=142

Able Danger Secrets Sent to Whistleblower

Posted by roc on 10th October 2005 @ 09:38 | No Comments

After revoking the security clearance of Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, a key figure in the ongoing Able Danger ‘information warfare’ controversy, Department of Defense officials - apparently inadvertently - sent at least six classified documents to the whistleblower. The documents - two directly related to the once-clandestine Able Danger operation, which identified Mohammed Atta and other 9/11 hijackers a year before the terror attacks - were among the items found in six boxes of “personal stuff” the Defense Intelligence Agency returned to Shaffer via his attorney, Mark Zaid, according to a source close to the attorney. The source added that DIA officials told Zaid they had spent “15 hours scrubbing” the material to make sure no classified information was contained therein.

The documents DIA returned “confirm and expand the information about the amount of support” Able Danger was getting from another program known as Stratus Ivy - and “included information to confirm that Shaffer had other officers working to support Able Danger,” the source said. In addition, twenty-six pieces of mail addressed to someone named Domingo A. Romo (and his wife Sandra) - ranging from financial statements to insurance information - were also found among the materials provided to Lt. Col. Shaffer.

The Pentagon scrubbing did have at least some cleansing effects, however. Although DIA did return Shaffer’s leather briefcase, items it once had contained - an Able Danger set of TOP SECRET documents (mission planning order, cover plan, etc.,) as well as some of the briefing books and charts that had been used to brief Pentagon leadership about the program - have all been hidden or destroyed by DIA. Shaffer was unavailable for comment. His employers at DIA have effectively muzzled him, and told his attorneys their client cannot speak publicly about the Able Danger program - not before the Senate Judiciary Committee, where Shaffer had been scheduled to testify last month, and certainly not to reporters.

A second round of Able Danger hearings had been set for October 5, but was postponed indefinitely. A spokesman for Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, Republican of Pennsylvania, says Specter is “still trying to work it out” with DOD to allow hearings to go forward, but thus far the Pentagon remains adamantly opposed to the public dissemination of any more information about the Able Danger program.

:wow:

[babylonsister]

1. It seems like their incompetence knows no bounds!

I surely hope Specter finds a way for this to see the light of day. Maybe he needs to take a page from Conyers and solicit a letter, signed by a bunch of people, to put the political heat on.

[NVMojo]

2. keerhist, mistake or planted??

[paineinthearse]

7. Exactly

That is why I inserted "(mistakenly?)" into the subject line. Maybe not enough people are watching the watchers.

[EVDebs]

3. PITA, it kinda reminds you of how Operation Northwoods was discovered

In a FOIA related to the Oliver Stone movie JFK, see page 3 at bottom

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=3

mentioning James Bamford's book Body of Secrets, where the op was revealed by 'mistake':

page 3

"Ironically, the documents came to light, says Bamford, in part because of the 1992 Oliver Stone film JFK, which examined the possibility of a conspiracy behind the assassination of President Kennedy...

page 4 "As public interest in the assassination swelled after JFK's release, Congress passed a law designed to increase the public's access to government records related to the assassination.

The author says a friend on the board tipped him off to the documents."

Possibly we have 'friends' still on the inside willing to risk retribution in defense of true liberty...not the phoney right-wingnut version !

[paineinthearse]

4. Only “15 hours scrubbing”

Wish they had taken more time, they may have released more!

[seemslikeadream]

5. Thanks paineinthearse

[wurzel]

6. Face it folks. We live in a Bushnana Republic

[paineinthearse]

8. .

:kick:

[autorank]

9. ...and Bank of America sent their safe combinations to Willie Sutton.

This is amazing. They trash his evidence but give him more. Who are they to stop his testimony. Of course, congress will just take it. They should have him come and ask very explicit questions that he then has to refuse to answer by DIA order. Haha

Recommend

[welshTerrier2]

10. "Atta" boy !!!

i think you're on to something here ... lots of mistakes get made even by US intelligence agents ...

but not on something this hot ... it's just not credible ...

could there be a patriot lurking ??

in the meantime, what's up with operation "Stratus Ivy"?? time for some research on that one and also on Domingo Romo ... who the hell is he ??

to call LIHOP or MIHOP a conspiracy theory is fine; to call it ridiculous is, well, ridiculous ... there's something happening here; what it is ain't exactly clear ...

[paineinthearse]

11. Prior DU "Able Danger" posts

GENERAL:

Remember John O'Neil's briefcase? THEY'RE DOING IT AGAIN(ABLE DANGER)
Topic started by seemslikeadream on Oct-03-05 09:30 AM (24 replies)
Last modified by Octafish on Oct-06-05 05:13 PM
WP blog: "Disabling Able Danger"
Topic started by DeepModem Mom on Sep-28-05 07:35 PM (7 replies)
Last modified by BuyingThyme on Sep-29-05 02:40 AM
"The Secret History of Able Danger": what is being hidden
Topic started by DeepModem Mom on Sep-27-05 07:07 PM (6 replies)
Last modified by Monkey see Monkey Do on Sep-28-05 11:20 AM
Pentagon Has its Dropped Objection to Open Hearing on 'Able Danger'
Topic started by NNN0LHI on Sep-23-05 06:48 PM (7 replies)
Last modified by Opusnone on Sep-23-05 08:38 PM
Cheney pulled the plug on Able Danger?
Topic started by The Backlash Cometh on Sep-23-05 09:03 AM (25 replies)
Last modified by seemslikeadream on Sep-23-05 06:39 PM
We should encourage Rep. Weldon to investigate "Able Danger"..
Topic started by kentuck on Sep-23-05 12:46 PM (0 replies)

Pentagon blocks testimony of Pre-911 intelligence
Topic started by WillYourVoteBCounted on Sep-21-05 10:12 PM (4 replies)
Last modified by drummo on Sep-23-05 04:23 AM
Able Danger ties Condi Rice to Chinese espionage! (really!)
Topic started by paulthompson on Sep-22-05 01:55 AM (41 replies)
Last modified by Up2Late on Sep-23-05 04:10 AM
Able Danger...Heard of It?
Topic started by rndmprsn on Sep-22-05 12:13 PM (1 replies)
Last modified by seemslikeadream on Sep-22-05 12:26 PM
Do you want to investigate "Able Danger"?
Topic started by kentuck on Sep-22-05 02:23 AM (13 replies)
Last modified by Frances on Sep-22-05 11:58 AM
NOW - ON CAPITOL HILL - Able Danger Inquiry CSPAN3 9:30am et
Topic started by seemslikeadream on Sep-21-05 09:37 AM (74 replies)
Last modified by DeepModem Mom on Sep-21-05 02:56 PM
Pentagon BLOCKS "Able Danger" Senate testimony day before scheduled!
Topic started by DeepModem Mom on Sep-20-05 11:15 PM (10 replies)
Last modified by lateo on Sep-21-05 10:00 AM
WHAT is the deal with Able Danger and Curt Weldon?
Topic started by burythehatchet on Sep-16-05 07:56 AM (34 replies)
Last modified by sattahipdeep on Sep-21-05 07:16 AM
How many ways can you spell "Cover up?" (Able Danger)
Topic started by kohodog on Sep-20-05 09:35 PM (14 replies)
Last modified by Octafish on Sep-20-05 11:23 PM
Neocons stopped surveillance of Atta in order to create 2nd Pearl Harbor?
Topic started by StefanX on Sep-18-05 12:10 AM (15 replies)
Last modified by seemslikeadream on Sep-18-05 09:03 PM
Did you hear?
Topic started by MassDemm on Sep-16-05 10:22 AM (7 replies)
Last modified by MassDemm on Sep-16-05 11:58 AM
Where is Rove heading with this
Topic started by political_invader on Sep-15-05 06:58 PM (2 replies)
Last modified by McCamy Taylor on Sep-15-05 07:10 PM

GDP:

RUMOR from the hill: Rove to be indicted on 22 counts of conspiracy.
Topic started by Buck Turgidson on Oct-07-05 10:07 AM (28 replies)
Last modified by bluedawg12 on Oct-07-05 11:49 AM
9-11 crash victim Barbara Olson arrested in Europe
Topic started by ElsewheresDaughter on Sep-24-05 11:11 AM (19 replies)
Last modified by MaineDem on Sep-24-05 11:32 AM
Bush's speech and "Able Danger" ? Any connection ?
Topic started by kentuck on Sep-22-05 02:35 PM (10 replies)
Last modified by KoKo01 on Sep-22-05 06:59 PM
"Congressman: Atta papers destroyed on orders" - pegging weirdness
Topic started by FormerRepublican on Sep-16-05 12:22 PM (7 replies)
Last modified by paineinthearse on Sep-16-05 02:18 PM
Atta Papers
Topic started by GayCanuck on Sep-15-05 09:18 PM (3 replies)
Last modified by seemslikeadream on Sep-15-05 09:47 PM

LBN:

Specter Wants Answers About 'Able Danger'
Topic started by seemslikeadream on Sep-21-05 01:52 PM (51 replies)
Last modified by Mitt Chovick on Sep-23-05 09:33 PM
9-11 crash victim Barbara Olson arrested in Europe
Topic started by Tai-chi on Sep-23-05 06:13 AM (14 replies)
Last modified by Dover on Sep-23-05 06:33 AM
NYT/Reuters: Pentagon Blocks Testimony at Senate Hearing on Terrorist
Topic started by understandinglife on Sep-20-05 11:06 PM (54 replies)
Last modified by bobbieinok on Sep-22-05 03:12 PM
NYT: Ex-White House Aide Charged in Corruption Case
Topic started by Bumblebee on Sep-20-05 12:56 AM (34 replies)
Last modified by KoKo01 on Sep-20-05 01:30 PM
Weldon: Atta Papers Destroyed on Orders
Topic started by notmypresident on Sep-15-05 06:36 PM (71 replies)
Last modified by sattahipdeep on Sep-17-05 09:58 AM

[paineinthearse]

15. With so much (but focused) interest, should we start an Able Danger forum?

Or is it better to leave the discussion in the main forums?

[Mandate My Ass]

20. oh a forum would be sweet

:thumbsup:

[paineinthearse]

22. I've done two, CSPAN and Conyers

Kind of not up to spearheading it, but would help the formation petition, mission statement and be a participant.

Formation is not all that hard, read the instructions in the GROUPS area. All that is needed is

1. A mission statement.
2. A petition by 10 paying members.

The hard part is keeping it alive.

Go for it!

[Nothing Without Hope]

12. And these idiots are in charge of NATIONAL SECURITY??? Geezus.

With this degree of spectacular incompetence, it's hard to keep conspiracy theories straight.

Recommended.

[ClayZ]

13. Anagram "Able Danger" and you get,

ARAB LEGEND and BANAL GREED .... Some words make me to that, I can not help it!

[seemslikeadream]

14. DO THE MATH

BUDDY BUDDY
http://www.gsnmagazine.com.nyud.net:8090/images/aug_05/atta.jpg
DO THE MATH

24 MINUTES

THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A MILITARY ORDER WATCH THIS VIDEO

http://www.bushflash.com/buddy.html


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/24/124834/678


DIA Agents were ordered to put yellow Post-its over Atta's face and the face's of 3 other 9/11 terrorists

"We were directed to take those 3M yellow stickers and place them over the faces of Atta and the other terrorists and pretend they didn't exist," the intelligence officer told GSN."

Intel agents Michael Shaffer and Scott Philpott have confirmed Rep. Weldon's claims that a chart with Atta's face, soon the photos of 3 other members of the 9-11 terror team, were known to DIA team Able Danger by early 2000.

This diary will show that Pete Schoomaker and Philip Zelikow are two of the main Perpetraitors in this scandal, that they deliberately withheld information from the President of the United States that would have prevented 9/11, that they and their neo-con rulers Let It Happen On Purpose.

Of this there can no longer be any doubt.



MUST READ - RE: ABLE DANGER INFO
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4447706

Hopsicker: Able Danger Intel Exposed "Protected" Heroin Trafficking
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x149481


Able Danger: Short Time-line
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4441903

Was Able Danger Shut Down After It Detected Condi-PRC Spy Ring?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4494524



Senate May Hold Hearings on Able Danger, Info Sharing
Thursday, August 25, 2005


Able Danger (search) is the code name for a military-intelligence unit that apparently learned a year before the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks that lead hijacker Mohamed Atta (search) and other terrorists were already in the United States.

One of the central Able Danger claims — that military lawyers blocked the sharing of the Atta information from the FBI in the late summer and early fall of 2000 — will be a focus of the committee's if a hearing takes place, FOX News has confirmed.

Some analysts involved with Able Danger have recently gone public with their findings, saying they were discouraged from looking further into Atta, and their attempts to share their information with the FBI were thwarted, because Atta was a legal foreign visitor at the time.

"This story needs to be told. The American people need to be told what could have been done to prevent 3,000 people from losing their lives," said Rep. Curt Weldon (search), R-Pa.

Weldon drew attention to Able Danger by speaking about it on the House floor and publicly calling for the Sept. 11 commission to explain why the intelligence information wasn't detailed in its final report.

Some Able Danger analysts, including Army Reserve Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer (search) and Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott (search), claim that in October 2003, they told commission staffers of the presence of Al Qaeda operatives in the United States in 2000.


more
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166800,00.html


Senate May Hold Hearings on Able Danger, Info Sharing
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1727804&mesg_id=1727804




Condi in Middle of Able Danger ‘Cover Up’"

Weldon is now saying that the Pentagon cover up of able danger “will shake the country to its roots."

...

If the claims made by the Able Danger participants and Rep. Weldon are confirmed, former National Security Adviser Rice and other Bush Administration officials will face a barrage of questions. First would likely be an inquiry into why the administration unceremoniously axed the Able Danger project in May of 2001.

During an August 20th interview on C-Span’s Washington Journal, Able Danger member Lt. Col. Schaffer posed a question of his own:

"The American public should ask themselves: Why would the leadership of DoD shut down, terminate, a project which was aimed at targeting al-Qaeda offensively? ...

"Why would they shut that down, four months before 9/11? That’s the big question right now, we have to ask that. I don’t know the answer to that question because I know my side of the story, I know that when a 2 star general got in my face and said, “I’m a 2 star general and you are not. You are to stop your support of Able Danger.” That’s what I know personally. But the question has to be: Who told him to do that? ...

"And why did the rest of the project, I’m talking about Special Operations Command and the Army portion of this, why was that terminated?

"Those are the questions that need to be asked."


more...

http://www.theinternationalpost.com/z30082005.html

Congressman Weldon -- Why now? Why ever?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4500623

Three more assert Pentagon knew of 9/11 ringleader By Will Dunham

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Three more people associated with a secret U.S. military intelligence team have asserted that the program identified September 11 ringleader Mohammed Atta as an Al Qaeda suspect inside the United States more than a year before the 2001 attacks, the Pentagon said on Thursday.

The Pentagon said a three-week review had turned up no documents to back up the assertion, but did not rule out that such documents relating to the classified operation had been destroyed.

Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott and Army Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer last month came forward with statements that a secret intelligence program code-named "Able Danger" had identified Atta, the lead hijacker in the attacks that killed 3,000 people, in early 2000. Pennsylvania Republican Rep. Curt Weldon (news, bio, voting record), vice chairman of the House of Representatives Armed Services Committee, also went public with the allegations.

Pat Downs, a senior policy analyst in the office of the undersecretary of defense for intelligence, told reporters that as part of the review, the Pentagon interviewed 80 people.

Downs said that three more people, as well as Phillpott and Shaffer, recalled the existence of an intelligence chart identifying Atta by name. Four of the five recalled a photo of Atta accompanying the chart, Downs said.

Pentagon officials declined to identify the three by name, but said they were an analyst with the military's Special Operations Command, an analyst with the Land Information Warfare Assessment Center and a contractor who supported the center.

Downs said all five were considered "credible people."

But officials said an exhaustive search of tens of thousands of documents and electronic files related to Able Danger failed to find the chart or other documents corroborating the identification of Atta. Phillpott has said Atta was identified by Able Danger by January or February of 2000.

"We have not discovered that chart," Downs said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050901/pl_nm/security_attacks_pentagon_dc


Three more assert Pentagon knew of 9/11 ringleader
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1744982&mesg_id=1744982

Specter Wants Answers About 'Able Danger'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1796658&mesg_id=1796658


NYT/Reuters: Pentagon Blocks Testimony at Senate Hearing on Terrorist
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1795221&mesg_id=1795221

NOW - ON CAPITOL HILL - Able Danger Inquiry CSPAN3 9:30am et
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4836496

Able Danger ties Condi Rice to Chinese espionage! (really!)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4846388&mesg_id=4846388

VIDEO-the Senate Judicial Committee ABLE DANGER saga
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?

[SittingBull]

16. Kicked and nominated!

strange things happen

[Octafish]

17. Able Danger is MOST important story.

It documents that the United States Government -- or secret parts thereof -- knew about Atta and Company before 9-11.

And they chose not to do anything about it.

Was Pentagon Tracking Atta Just Days Before 9-11 Attack?

EXCERPT...

Tidbits from the Venice Terabyte

During final preparations for the Sept 11 attack, Mohamed Atta’s father was 'visiting' his terrorist ringleader son in Venice, Florida. After seeing him on television denying that his son had anything to do with the terrorist hijackings, a number of credible witnesses called the Sarasota office of the FBI to report they had seen Atta’s father in Venice with his son ten days to two weeks before the attack.

Closed circuit videotape provided to the FBI as evidence of Atta Senior’s presence appears to have been intentionally erased.

The FBI knew about the U.S. visit of Atta’s father, Cairo attorney Mohammed El-Amir, in Venice. So why has someone with clear foreknowledge of an attack which murdered almost 3000 civilians not been brought to justice?

Might the answer be in those 2.5 terabytes?

The recent "Atta in America" controversy started by Rep. Curt Weldon (R. PA) is a hopeful sign of the unraveling of the "official story" about 9/11... even as those in charge of maintaining the illusion of the "official story" are hard at work creating new layers of disinformation in the media.

The official story of the 9.11 attack resembles a Potemkin’s village, a false front hiding a set of what must be really undesirable facts. The term refers to a Russian official in the 18th century who had elaborate fake villages built to give Catherine the Great a false impression of peace and prosperity when she toured the Ukraine and the Crimea, regions that in actuality were in turmoil and poverty.

CONTINUED...

http://www.madcowprod.com/09192005.html

Thanks for the heads-up, paininthearse. Keep spreading the word on these traitors and maybe even the press corpse will catch on.

[Mandate My Ass]

18. Specter is full of shit and part of the cover up

The Pentagon gave him the go-ahead on September 23rd. Since he never adjourned the Sept. 21st meeting, he is free to proceed. The one hearing he did hold was a sham and it was probably a maneuver to shut Weldon's flapping pie hole. Specter is always part of the whitewash. It's in his blood.

[paineinthearse]

23. Creator of the "single bullet" theory, I have always despised Spector nt

[Neil Lisst]

19. The incompetence runs deep under Bush

These guys are clowns!

Too funny.

http://www.webcomicsnation.com/neillisst/neillisst/series.php

[Mandate My Ass]

21. kick

:kick: