F*CK!!! I just saw the 64-yr-old beaten in NO!

[Just Me]

:cry: Sickening.

What the hell is wrong with people to bloody an old man in that way?

F*CK!!!

[Trillo]

1. Puts a new spin on "elder abuse," no? nt

[Just Me]

6. He was a retired teacher.

I don't care if he was drunk. He was 64 years old, a retired teacher prolly damned deserving of a night getting shit-faced. He was NO threat to four YOUNG white police officers!!!

F*CK!!! Did you see how they bloodied him? :cry: SICK!!!!

[Generic Other]

15. His lawyer said he was not drunk, only afraid because of curfew

Bourbon Street was the only place that has open stores. He was trying to get cigarettes. The cops jumped him from behind.

It was on Olberman.

[malaise]

63. Unbelievable

Poor man - how dare he head for Bourbon street looking for cigarettes?
Turns out he does not drink. This is madness.

[Tace]

2. I Dunno, But I Think The Cops Need A Vacation -- 5-10 Years Behind Bars

[Bassic]

81. Yeah like that's gonna happen

For some reason the words "Rodney King" come to mind.

I do hope they get waht's coming to them.

I hate violent cops.

Yesterday something like that, althought not quite as violent, happenned to a woman who had stolen a few packs of cigarettes in Montréal.

Unbelievable.

[libhill]

82. What I want to know is

where the hell were these big, bad, pricks at when N.O. was going to shit in a hand basket during Katrina? Probably some of the same scum suckers who deserted their posts -

[cwydro]

3. yeah, and I just read

someone already making excuses for them...all the pressure yada yada yada....well, then, DON'T go into police work! That video made me sick sick sick. ANd the N.O. cops already have a rep for this crap...two on death row from 1995 for MURDER. Scum.

[nadinbrzezinski]

50. They are under stress

police work is stressful... and disaster work ten times as bad, hence they ever so popular psych and background checks.

This was abuse... (it was many other names some of them not fit for the young folk)

Lets see if the department follows through the way it should go

I'm not counting on it

[MojoXN]

4. Link to video?

[cantstandbush]

5. In one film clip I heard a bystander say that the man surrendered

to police vouluntarily but they beat him anyway. i hope there are some witnesses who are not afraid to come forward. What do they have to fear? loss of jobs, homes, comfort. i don't think so.

[DoYouEverWonder]

7. An AP News Crew just happened to be standing there

and got it all on video. The police also assaulted the camera man.

If it was for the video, no one would have every heard about this incident. It happens all over America on a daily basis. It's just rare that anyone ever gets pictures to prove it.

[awoke_in_2003]

14. After it was over

one of the cops grabbed the AP producer, shoved him into a car, and held him there while screaming at him. Guess he was mad because he got caught. I am sure he will be treated well once he hits general population.

[Just Me]

16. Nevermind.

nt

[MojoXN]

49. Gen pop? Don't make me laugh.

He'll be in P.C. until he's done his time. It's possible that someone could get to him, but not likely, because he's a cop. The C.O.'s will most likely love the guy, and he'll have the easiest X year sentence ever, comparatively speaking. What can I say, equal justice for all is a fucking pipe dream.

MojoXN

[brook]

8. I turned off the TV.

I took one look and thought I just couldn't stand any more of this watching people bloodied, beaten, drowned, abandoned and fucking betrayed by this fascistic corrupt Admnistration and their souless enablers.

[Fleshdancer]

9. I saw a pic of him afterwards...lying in a pool of his own blood

several cops had him pinned and one cop bashed the back of his head repeatedly. Later a cop yelled and cussed at the camera man and another cop was yelling his id number at a couple who (I assume) complained about the abuse.

Is it my imagination or do video tapes of police brutality surface a few times every year now? It scares me to think how many times this happens without anyone finding out.

I hope the teacher can recover from this beating without any major head trauma. After watching the video tape, I would be surprised if he didn't have long lasting physical problems.

[IndyOp]

10. I hope its repeated more often than the Rodney King

video was years ago. When that happened my friend RL told me that when he used to work as an X-ray tech in a Los Angeles hospital, people who had been arrested would often claim they had a broken arm or leg and beg for the portable X-ray machine to be taken to the ER instead of waiting until after the trip upstairs in the elevator with the cops.

:nuke:

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

11. And (white) people wonder why the OJ Simpson jurors distrusted the LAPD

and Mark Furman (sp?) enough to acquit OJ.

[ultraist]

38. agree

Absolutely fucking sickening what so many cops do, moreover, the institutionalized racism that runs rampid in our justice system.

And people think racism is not a problem?!?!?!?!?!?

[Cronus Protagonist]

56. LAPD planted evidence and Furhman perjured himself

I don't think the verdict had so much to do with race. I think OJ was complicit, likely even one of perpetrators or a sole perpetrator, and would have gone down. However, he rightly walked when the prosecution gilded the lily, broke the law and lost the case.

If the prosecution cheats, it casts doubt on their own conviction and that they have the right man. If I were on a jury, I would call that reasonable doubt.

It was a miracle for that to happen to a black man, for him to get the benefit of the doubt despite all the circumstantial and forensic evidence. Hence the cheers from those who saw the rule of law be upheld for one spectacular moment and saw the real possibility that, with enough money and good luck, it's possible to literally get away with murder.

Is that a racial issue or a social issue?


http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13
Buttons for brainy people - educate your local freepers today!

[ecstatic]

61. true; and if there were no cameras...there would be no crime

Only reason this has come to our attention is because it was all caught on film, not to mention the assault of that journalist/cameraman (forget who).

[Rex]

12. This was a brutal beating.

I can't believe what I saw - it looked like they busted his left eye out. Cops? These are cops? It looks like they were going to beat on the camera crew too. What the fuck? To bad the national guard is off fighting in a fake war.

[libhill]

83. These are

neo nazi scumbag peices of shit, who should be locked away for life.

[goddess40]

13. This is the first I heard of this

I'm worried now too, our local police chief retired and he was sympathetic to our war protests. The leading contender for his replacement is a pro-war asshole.

Has anyone heard about this mans condition? Is he still alive?

[Just Me]

17. I just saw it, tonight.

I cried.

He was powerless,...beaten,...bloodied.

:cry:

[Generic Other]

18. MSNBC video link

http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?f=00&g=53b56606-65fd-40de-94d0-af551007ae8b&t=m5&p=News_Comment%20-%20Analysis

[morningglory]

19. One part that hurt me was...

the cop on the right in the gray jacket/shirt who was putting his whole body strength into hyperextending the old guy's knee. He will be limping till the day he dies.

[Just Me]

22. I saw that,...the twisting of his leg,...beyond my younger body's,...

,...flexibility. :cry:

Have our people, our officers, completely LOST their sense of gravity? :cry:

That was just so,...cruel.

WHAT HAVE WE BECOME??? :cry: ,..what have we become,...;(

[Bozita]

34. like ripping the drumstick from a turkey

and their satisfaction is what?

[cwydro]

72. there were federal officers involved

and I think he was one of them...FBI...it was on CNN tonight.

[TX-RAT]

90. That was an FBI agent.

[Az]

20. Its called stress

We are not robots or saints. Place a human being into a crucible and churn for a sufficient time and they will snap. Once the pressure is high enough it only takes a single trigger to cause an explosion. All the stress and anguish comes pouring out as rage.

What the officers did was wrong. But they are not monsters. They are human.

[yankeedem]

21. Humans that need to be in prison

I don't give a damn about the pressure. Their job is to deal with it. That old man didn't deserve to be an outlet for their pressure.

Let them cool off in prison for 5 years and maybe they will learn to control their emotions next time, like every other adult does.

[Az]

23. I agree

But it is important to realise that such actions do not come from no where. We put police in the position of dealing with great stress. We have to be proactive on how we deal with it. Things like this should not happen. If we can see how and where such things come from we should head them off before they happen.

[yankeedem]

26. How about recruiting police

that aren't mental cases.
How about police disciplining their own, instead of turning the other way when one of their own roughs someone up.

If a cop can't handle stress, they should quit or be fired- before they hurt the public.

There is a lot of room between a saint and being a thug, and 100,000's of thousands of police do it everyday without abusing the public. They handle pressure situations everyday.

[Bozita]

36. The way the cops worked together made me think they've done this before

more than once.

and what about the treatment of the press?

[Window]

66. Did you notice the policeman on the horse trying to shield the

action from the camera?

Peace

[Quixote1818]

37. They should be punished but I agree that the Stress got the best of them

It can happen even to the best humans. Psychologists have studied how powerful stress can be on a human brain and short circuit everything creating rage. The guy was temporarily insane basically. His wiring was overloaded.

Everyone has a breaking point and under extreme stress of losing your home and city and everything else that happened in NO it doesn't take much to reach that breaking point.

Once in school a guy kept popping me in the head. After several minutes I was filled with so much rage I just went off on the guy. People had never seen that side of me and I didn't even know I could lose it like that. It was very scary to find myself turning into an animal filled with rage. I am someone with a VERY long fuse but pop me on the head enough times and I will lose it! Everyone eventually will reach that point.

These cops need counseling and to hit a pillow a few hundred times to get their fear, sadness and rage out.

[Catherine Vincent]

24. I am sure the recipient of their beating thought they were monsters.

[Just Me]

25. Bullshit. There were FOUR of them against one old man.

The old man WAS HUMAN. The four young white men who bloodied him,...were FUCKED UP!!!!

"Understanding" has limits. DO NO HARM!!!

[Az]

28. Fucked up indeed

You think they just walk down the street jacking up everyone they feel like it?

I am by no means defending the individuals involved. What they did was wrong. They have snapped. They are going to jail if there is any justice.

The point is that things like this come from someplace. It was not a bolt out of the blue. These men just came through a horrendous event. It has an effect.

[Berserker]

41. How can anyone

stick up for those bastards. They have the power to beat the piss out of people and some do beat the piss out of people and then someone says its stress they have been through a horrendous event. Well I bet the 65 year old man just went through a horrendous event and THEN got the piss beat out of him and laid in a pool of his own blood. Fuck those cops they deserve to be in prison BASTARDS

[Az]

44. Calm yourself down

I am in no way condoning their actions. They are going to jail deservedly. Even with understanding how stress contributed to their actions they do not get a free pass on beating a man the way they did.

The question was asked how does this happen. The answer is stress. The reason we look for what causes such things to happen is to prevent them from happening again.

Of course we could just form a mob and start running around grabbing those we fear and beat them to death. But then we would have become the thing we hate.

[Tsiyu]

45. I call bullshit on the "stress" excuse

Every fucking body I know is under stress.

These thugs have a sense of superiority and entitlement which comes out in this wicked, vile, subhuman manner when they have an opportunity to express it.

They treated people this way LONG before Katrina, mark my words.

[Az]

46. Sorry, but

You don't seem to understand just how much an effect stress has on our behaviour. Its not an excuse for their behaviour. But it is a predictor of behaviour.

Yes the other issues you mention play a part in it too. But stress is the explosive component in the equation.

[William Bloode]

64. Another cop appologist.

Who woulda figured?

Stress is NOT any type of excuse. Not one of us civilians are allowed to say we feel stressed, then run out and beat the shit out of some one.

I myself happen to be from a small town called Fresh Off a Cops Ass, to quote an old movie. They cause me stress, so i believe i'll go out and beat a few. Let us see how my "stress" defense works in court.

[Az]

67. FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!!!!!

It is not a freaking excuse!!!!!!

Read the freaking posts.

They deserve to go to jail. We deserve to figure out what causes that kind of behaviour and we deserve to find ways of preventing it.

It is not a freaking excuse. They did horrible things. They are going to be punished for it.


ITS NOT A FREAKING EXCUSE!!!

ITS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THESE THINGS HAPPEN AND WORKING TO PREVENT THEM HAPPENING AGAIN!!!!!!!

[libhill]

85. Stress

is part and parcel of the job in police work. If they can't handle the heat, they should keep their candy ass out of the kitchen. Piss on 'em. I hope they all end up in prison being some one's "girlfriend" -

[Hubert Flottz]

89. Funny how they all four reached the tipping point in the same...

instant. Don't you think?

[Tomee450]

53. More excuses.

This happens all the time across this country. Blacks and some poor whites experience brutality from cops who get away with it. This brutality will continue to be a problem as long as white jurors refuse to convict cops who engage in this kind of behavior. There are some people who are just plain mean. Others who just take their frustrations out on people who can't defend themselves. Those kind of cops should not be part of any police force. I find it hard to understand why you are trying to offer excuses for the horrible behavior of those policemen. What about the victim? That shot of those cops with their arms around the victims neck just sent chills through me, and the last shot of the victim in his own blood just turned my stomach. How can anyone do that to an old man? He wasn't even armed. Those cops went absolutely wild and they should not be on the street. They give the good cops a bad name.

[Az]

65. Where is it mentioned that it is an excuse

These cops should be placed in jail. No excuses.

But you keep asking how people can do such things. When you take the time to find out you will discover that stress causes our minds to unhinge.

It only takes one cop to bring about a mob reaction like the one witnessed. Once one cop overreacts and the victim responds to it the struggle becomes cop against perp in the rest of the cops mind's. From then on the victim is in a dire situation. If the instigating cop continues to beat on the victim the rest of the cops will assume the situation is not under control. And yes all the ignorance of bigotry and oppression feed into the equation. But the key instigator is stress. That is the trigger that sets off the bomb.

It is a very horrible situation. The cops deserve to be placed in jail. And We The People have to work to see that such things do not come about again. We do that by discerning how they come about and dealing with the factors we can. Learning to screen out cops from active duty who are so stressed out they are ready to break. Enforcing antidescrimination regulations. Teaching nonviolent means of dealing with crisis situations. All these need to be put in place or reinforced where they are in place but not enforced.

[ultraist]

39. It's not just stress

It's racism. Certain people think they can treat other 'certain' people like animals. DISGUSTING. I nearly threw up when I saw that video. WTF is wrong with people?

[newspeak]

47. yeah stress plays a part

but there are law enforcement officers like my ex-brother-in-law who are just power driven. his ego was huge!!!!! then there was a sheriff's deputy that I knew that was just a bigot---against every race but white---and a regular MCP--called me "darlin" and "sugar"---yecccccccch! There are cops that are on a power trip---period!!!! A law officer's position should be an honored position of protecting the public; therefore, there should be extensive psychological testing before hiring, better benefits and a salary that matches their duties. Maybe then, we'll have more officers with degrees and intelligence; and not acting like APEMEN!!!!!!! POWER HUNGRY BARNEY FIFES!!!!!!!

[etherealtruth]

Not only that (as if that wasn't enough)

The NOLA police force has had the reputaion as an extremely corrupt and violent force. Incidents such as this are not new or rare there.

Edit:
http://www.ppionline.org/ppi_ci.cfm?knlgAreaID=119&subsecID=213&contentID=2155

Link indicate the city had made strides to deal with their corruption in the 1990's

[libhill]

86. They pin on a badge

and strap on a gun, and they think they're Billy Bad ASS -these punks must have been sleeping or jerking off in the academy, when minimum use of force was discussed -

[nadinbrzezinski]

51. The psych screen failed huh?

yes police work is stressful, what is your point?

Oh and been in disasters myself.

What these boys did was abuse... techically assault and battery... and abuse of power (police officers)

[Tomee450]

52. Here we go again,

someone making excuses for something inexcusable. Those weren't human beings, they were animals. That man was old, unarmed and they beat him. The beating continued even once he was handcuffed. How could you offer support for those cops? Unbelievable.

[cwydro]

73. you know what?

my grandfather was an air raid warden in London during the Blitz...nothing like that EVER happened with the police or the wardens...and they were under stress FIVE f**king years...and many lost homes and families and NEVER knew when the bombs would come or who would die and maybe it would be THEM. F**K these criminals with badges. We have a problem in this country. I bet anything those assholes are on steroids. That looks like 'roid rage to me.

[libhill]

84. Stress is no excuse

for beating the crap out of an old man - none none none - these bastards should be banned from ever working in Law Enforcement again. Out of control, unprofessional fucking thugs - end of story.

[Indy Lurker]

27. No wonder they disarmed the citizens of NO n/t

[Ilsa]

29. It's really bad.

No excuse for it. Yeah, the police had been run ragged by the events since August 30, but this is so obviously NOT RIGHT, four guys beating a drunk who was down on the ground already. Shit.

[marlo]

30. He wasn't drunk.

N/T

[Ilsa]

70. Thanks, I just found out. I didn't hear the whole story, just the

police version.

There is no excuse for what they did to that poor man. They need to be put away in prison before they kill someone (probably of color) "in the name of the law".

[ultraist]

40. "beating a drunk"

Excuse me, the man is a retired teacher and is sober. He's been sober for YEARS. He does not drink. Regardless, even "drunks" are HUMAN BEINGS.

[Ilsa]

71. I responded here. I hadn't heard anything but the ooficial version.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5027088&mesg_id=5032149

[Neil Lisst]

31. I've watched it over and over

Their fury is completely unwarranted. He's not even doing anything. They are pounding him. I saw a witness who said the man had told the police officer that he was being rude, and the guy was walking away with his back to the police when they attacked him from behind.

I also saw the attack on the TV guy, while the policeman on the horse tried to block the view.

It's a police state, and it's because we have a nazi in the WH who sends this stuff down from above in everything he does.

[ultraist]

42. First they came for the Black people...think about it. n/t

[Tomee450]

55. Amen

and too many people don't think about it.

[cwydro]

74. thank you

excellent point...and then they came for our civil rights...

[opihimoimoi]

32. You can't trust those 64 year old dudes man, thewy are strong and know how

to fight. They can kill you man, they can hurt you real bad. Thats why it take 46 Cops to pull one down. They make 45 cal bullets for these types.

:sarcasm:

[Hubert Flottz]

87. Overkill brownshrit style.

They ought to go beat on a real live criminal like Kenny Boy, or some of those nasty a$$ed insider traitors!

Hell, even Charles Manson never got beat like the man on that SHOCKING video. Those cops acted like the guy wanted to go vote "liberal", or something "really bad"!

The already smarting tax payers in NO will owe another 5 million dollars when, the guy rightfully gets his settlement out of that lawsuit. "Serving and Protecting," it didn't look like that ever entered those cops thoughts, during the arrest of that citizen...

Come we go reprimer da bomb shelter and bury our little nuts for the winter.

Warning..."Duck and Cover," may cause bird fever in some locations.

[libhill]

88. Yup -

a 64 year old man looking for cigs - sounds like a real dangerous character to me, I'm surprised 4 or 5 cops could handle it. Should have called in a brigade of Marines, and an air strike at the very least. Don't those fucking ass clowns have any real law enforcement work to do?

[Hubert Flottz]

91. CHRIST...I didn't know the man smoked cigarettes...

That had to be the trigger!

Meanwhile Halliburton/BushCo loots the city and the country...

[Quixote1818]

33. People under incredible stress are much more prone to use violence

The police in NO need some time off! The weiring in their head is probably shorted out and their fuses are way to short to be dealing with the stresses Police deal with. They have lost their homes, their city and have had to deal with all the stress of the incredible ferocious power of Nature like an atomic bomb on their home town.

I don't condone their actions but I doubt if they would have done this if katrina had never hit. They need a vacation!!!

[ultraist]

43. If it's due to Katrina, how do you explain all of the other cases

of police brutality, usually targeted against Blacks?

[newspeak]

48. yeah

and some people are just power driven and bigoted! I mean power corrupts--all that power, people afraid of you, people calling you "yes, sir" and "no, sir", but officers are our public servants ,that we pay their check. And, I'm willing to pay more for better quality!!!!!

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

68. I don't think there was a "Katrina" before Rodney King got beaten up.

[ThingsGottaChange]

35. What do we expect?

The most powerful and influencial man (gawd, I gagged just typing that) in the US has told everyone that it's O.K. to beat and torture. Why, it's downright American! They're just following the new rules of the land.

Those fuckwads better pay bigtime for this.

[phrenzy]

54. Apologists

Fucking pathetic. I refuse to watch this because i know it will get me so angry I won't be able to sleep. But the people coming out trying to 'explain' why the cops did it. Well, shit.. "I beat up my wife because, well, I just get so much shit from my boss at work"

Sound about right?

These people do not deserve one ounce of understanding. They should be beaten just like the beating they served out for NO FUCKING REASON.

And I don't care what you say - put me in any situation - and I'd NEVER EVER EVER get to the point where I am beating defenseless senior citizens half to death.

I pray to god some of you cop apologists get a dose of the stick of a cop who had a bad day. Maybe you can give him a hug afterwards.

[Seabiscuit]

57. My sentiments exactly.

These bastards should never wear a uniform again - except an orange prison jumpsuit.

[Clintmax]

58. New Orleans is NOT safe for anyone!

I wouldn't go NEAR that place for anything! It's a cesspool right now and will continue to be until some MAJOR rebuilding is done and peoples nerves can calm down. I saw the footage of those cops beating him and just got mad as hells! I think they should make everyone get out again, close off the city completely and not let anyone back in until it's rebuilt and ready for re-occupation. It won't happen that way of course, and people will continue to get hurt from herein forward.

[RebelOne]

59. Would everyone please stop calling that man OLD!

I am 66 and if you called me an old woman, you would be in for a slap in the mouth.

[sproutster]

60. The part that makes me mad.

They charged him up the ying yang with 4 charges. The officers were charged with "simple battery." Battery can be as little as a push.

[Tomee450]

76. It was reported this

morning that assualt is considered a misdemeanor. I was shocked at that.

[Splatter Phoenix]

69. Our point is that...

He's really not in a position to defend himself. He's not "Old" per se, but he's not a hardy young strong man like the cops.

v_V No offense intended.

[TX-RAT]

93. Thank You.

[Hubert Flottz]

62. Krystal Nacht can't be far away.

"TRUST THEM"??????

[Disturbed]

75. Concerning the man that was beaten.

Amazingly, he was not hospitalized. I saw him speaking on TV. His eye was swolen shut but he didn't seem to be damaged brain wise. Of course, that could happen later as some injuries manifest a day or two afterwards.

I saw one officer repeatedly punch this man in the face. There is no excuse for that, period.

Police need better screening,training and continued therapy to prevent this kind of brutality.

[Hubert Flottz]

78. "but he didn't seem to be damaged brain wise"

The damage from a beating like that by police, to someone's brain, may not be physically visible, but it's likely to be there for quite sometime, maybe for life, in the mind, of the victim. That form of terrorism becomes troublesome to the victim, the next time he sees a police car, or a police man and that acute fear and dread, could last for the rest of the man's life. It's like when a big dog bites you and you suddenly become afraid of every big dog you see.

Post Traumatic Shock Syndrome, or Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)

PTSD - History and Evolution

During the U.S. Civil War, soldier's heart was the name given to a syndrome similar to today's Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (Jacob DaCosta's paper in 1871 on Irritable Heart). In fact clinicians have long noted that traumatic events can lead to psychological disturbance. At the end of the Nineteenth and the beginning of the Twentieth centuries, railway disasters, the World Wars, the Holocaust, atom bombs on Hiroshima & Nagasaki prompted systematic descriptions of the symptoms associated with traumatic stress reactions. These included:

Spontaneous re-experiencing of aspects of the traumatic events
Startle responses
Irritability
Impairment in concentration and memory
Disturbed sleep, distressing dreams
Depression, guilt, phobias
Psychic numbing
Multiple somatic complaints

The stress reactions were christened varyingly, depending on the traumatic events preceding the cluster of symptoms. Many different labels were in vogue.

Fright Neurosis
Combat / War Neurosis
Shell-shock
Survivor Syndrome
Nuclearisim
Operational Fatigue
Compensation Neurosis ...More...

http://www.twilightbridge.com/psychiatryproper/ailmentguide/ptsd/history.htm

The cops "broke it", they ought to have to pay for fixing it...in the end the taxpayer will, as usual, be the one who pays for the damages caused by the "public servants." The people who beat that man should be jailed, but they won't do a day in jail for their crime.

[happydreams]

77. What did the guy do supposedly do anyway? I read today

that he wasn't even drunk as claimed.

[TX-RAT]

94. According to reports, he staggered into the officer on horseback.

Before everybody get blown out of shape here. Let the investigation tell the whole story. There were numerous civilian witnesses, there was a video that needs to be looked at in it,s entirety, not just certain little snips. From what i seen, 2 of the officers should be wearing recording devices. As for the producer who got pushed back out of the way, that was his fault, never interfere with an investigation or arrest, he knew better. As for the not drinking in 25 years, why did he refuse a sobriety test? I've made many arrests for DUI, having someone tell me they wasn't drinking, or haven't drank in years, is not uncommon, about 75 to 80 percent of the people i dealt with would rather lie, than tell the truth.

If the investigation proves the officers used unnecessary force then they should be relieved of duty, and possibly jailed. OH, and for those who think a 65 year old man can't hurt you, don't fool yourself.

[happydreams]

96. Thanks, I agree. I think the cops overreached, but I don't think that

Davis is totally innocent.

[Beaverhausen]

97. I read that he has Parkinson's

that might explain his staggering.

[TX-RAT]

99. Could very well.

Diabetics have been suspected of Public intoxication, and DWI.

[caduceus111]

79. Think some of the cops knew this was wrong?

Watch the video...the cop on the horse spots the news camera and moves his horse to block the view of the camera.

This sickens me.

=caduceus=

[truebrit71]

92. Yup.

The pigs knew that what was going down was bullshit, and tried to cover it up...If you have nothing to hide, why hide?

Plus the pig's attorney claims that the old fella wasn't struck in the face...Umm, hello? douchebag, have you SEEN the tape?

Fuck 'em all....

[godai]

80. The way they used the horse to try to block the video...conspiracy

[spanone]

95. Welcome to America.

Land of the Rich and home of the Richer.

[mzmolly]

98. This man is a retired school teacher - sober for 25 years.

These cops are lying/criminals and they are going to jail.