I would rather AAR exist as a whole than keep Morning Sedition.

[Dawgs]

Marc Maron leaving is a sad part of the radio industry.

When ratings are low, and advertisers are hard to find, it's the job of those in charge to make a change.

It has nothing to do with liking or disliking the show.

I'm not sure why some of you can't understand this.

[xultar]

1. But AAR isn't whole if they continue to cancel the shows that made

it great.

[BrklynLiberal]

4. I agree. I will miss Marc, and do not understand why they are dumping

someone who was there from the start, thru the struggles and helped get the station up on its feet.
It reminds me of the doctor whose wife who was there for the difficult years, and then when he is successful, dumps her for the "trophy wife".
I thought AAR was not that kind of organization. And I believe that Marc and Morning Sedition has enough fans to support it staying on the station.

I think he will not be the last of the original people to leave, or have their "contract not renewed".

Very disappointing.

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. Not as lonig as those shows don't get them ratings

if they don't they are gone, this is not a chaeity, it is a business

[Sarah Ibarruri]

2. Ratings are low?

:(

I love Marc Maron. I'm going to miss Morning Sedition. I count on it every morning to make me laugh and inform me on what's happening with the cristo-fascists in the White House.

[DancingBear]

3. Seconded

No one can seem to understand that the show itself is not leaving, only Maron.

If the rumors about Hightower are true, BTW, then this show will be a very strong addition to the AAR line-up.

Hightower is humorous, insightful and very quick on his feet.

I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised if they re-tool the show in this fashion.

I know I will be. :)

[Armstead]

5. I love Hightower, but he's boring as a talk show host

[efhmc]

8. Agreed, he is way too "folksy".

[Horse with no Name]

11. I know several upscale rich folks

Who love Hightower therefore would support his show. That is what it is all about--supporting the almighty dollar.
I have never been a Morning Sedition listener because I normally do not have time at that time of day to listen, however, having been around radio for many years in the way of a husband who played their game, I totally understand that if you get the ratings you work, if you don't, you move...again.
If anyone remembers the old show WKRP in Cincinatti, that is truly the life of a radio host "Moving up and down the dial".
Speaking as a former displaced-more-than-once radio ex-wife, there were times we moved 3-4 times a year--sometimes because the company fired someone else and sent my ex to fill the void, sometimes because his ratings weren't what they should have been.
It was a big factor in why I am divorced. I have lived in almost every part of Texas--many areas of this state that I wouldn't raise my kids in. It isn't a life conducive to raising children. I told my ex that if he wanted to stay married, it was me and the kids or the job. Therefore, we divorced.;)

[dogfacedboy]

6. My all-time favorite bit on that show

is the "Angus MacFarkus" character.

[B Calm]

22. I will miss the stalker

[mattomjoe]

7. Also a Morning Sedition fan....

stuck in the MN AAR market that keeps bumping it off for Nick Coleman and Wendy Wilde! :mad:

[KharmaTrain]

9. It's Business/Life...Been There, Done That

Working talk radio...and doing it well...is a very demanding job. You're "on" 24/7...either doing the show, preparing for it, thinking up ideas or fighting inside politics (management). Add to this working the morning shift that means getting up at 3 or 4am every weekday and it can take its toll. Then factor in that Marc was one of the originals at AAR who endured payless paydays and surely has passed up on a lot of stand-up opportunities for the stability and possible visibility of this gig. It seems to have played out for both...time to move along.

Radio had deregulated itself into a disasterous situation. Revenues have fallen while the debts of these large corporations mount...it means cutting staff and any expense. It's all but sufficating the industry as its driving out the talents that can generate audiences and greater revenues. I feel fortunate I got out of that game and can play on a higher level now...radio isn't the fun place to be it used to be and takes a great deal of personal conviction and sacrafice to survive in now.

AAR can always use new voices and fresh blood. Change isn't a bad thing. I have long advocated that local AAR affiliates expand their programming and create local dialogues. Several have and are profiting from it (KPOJ in Portland is kicking ass!)...hopefully others will follow.

Now Marc has a lot of great experience under his belt. Hopefully he'll work his way out to LA and has made some great contacts out there. I'm sure we'll hear, see or read from him again. Now it's time for the next Marc Maron to step forward.

[Mythsaje]

10. I liked Morning Sedition

but, for me, Stephanie Miller works just as well. I kinda miss "Future Mark" and "Mark the Shark," but it's now on WAY early for me here, so I usually listen to Steph's "Right Wing World" on the way to work now.

At this point the only host I'm really addicted to is Thom Hartmann.

[hlthe2b]

12. there is a catch 22 that the OP fails to note in

what seems to me to be a very patronizing post. The decisions made by AAR to syndicate shows, rather than develop a true network of AAR stations, meant that local affiliates could choose any portion of the AAR lineup without ever introducing it to their audience, or shifting a show to the time period when it would be least likely to develop an audience.

This has happened to several AAR shows, including Morning Sedition. When poor ratings are, to a large part, the direct result of management decisions, it IS time to question the Senior Management. As Dawgs would say with such disdain for many of his DU colleagues, "I'm not sure why some of you can't understand this?" :shrug:

[DancingBear]

14. If this is so, then explain why Maron is leaving

Is it because Goldberg is vindictive? Is it because he wants AAR to tank? What should his rationale have been for moving MS into other time slots? Let's see, it's doing poorly in NY, poorly in every market it is in (in its correct time slot) - I know, I'll introduce it into even more markets!

Look, it has a loyal following - that is easily seen by the petitions, etc. on it's behalf. The problem is, it does not have a LARGE following.

As I've stated before, I think Maron is a third-rate comedy hack. Others disagree -some vehemently. It seems, however, that my opinion is the order of the day, predicated on what the ratings show.

As I've also stated, I think Jerry Springer is ill-equipped as a talk show host. If, however, he pulls in an audience who would otherwise NEVER listen to a progressive point of view, and the ratings bear this out, then he stays.

That, my friend, IS easy to understand. :)

[hlthe2b]

15. Goldberg uses the ratings as justification.

I would assume he wants Maron out because the two have knocked heads His decision came BEFORE the flurry of petitions, emails, calls, so your point has no bearing on the argument. Nor are you being truly "honest" when you state the low ratings bear out your appraisal of Maron's talent, when the show hasn't even been on in so many of the markets. Nor do the ratings include the internet streams.

Look no one has to like MS and you may get your way. My point is that the OP (not you) was very very condescending in their post towards other DUers (who he apparently thinks are too stupid to understand business decisions...:eyes:)

[Dawgs]

16. Okay...

First of all, your ignorance of how the radio industry works really shows. Internet streams are great, but they don't bring in advertising dollars.

Also, I'm not sure where you're getting your information(my guess is this site and from Maron's own mouth), because the flurry of emails, calls and petitions isn't as great as you might think. But, even if there were a lot, the decision is going to be based on money, ratings, and interest from advertisers. It's not going to be based on the support he recieved after the announcement.

Now, I don't think I was being so condescending when I said that many of you aren't getting it. All of the posts I've seen are from listeners of the show who think Maron should stay just because they like him. Again, that's not how radio works.

If you don't like what I said then fine, but just as much as you have a right to love on Maron and his show I have just as much a right to tell you why I disagree that it should go on.

[hlthe2b]

18. Your apparent disrespect, disdain, and condescension

for your fellow DUers with whom you disagree is really showing. I've been watching your interaction with a number of DUers over this issue and find it appalling. This is not a life/death issue. MS and every other show on AAR will appeal to some and not to others.

I have no problem with your views on the show or your views on what would best benefit AAR programming. I have a big problem when you adopt the tactics of the RW to attack your fellow DUers with whom you disagree. You do not know whether I, or any other DUer have intimate knowledge of the workings of the radio industry. Accusing everyone with whom you disagree of ignorance of the "inner workings" of an industry, without providing proof yourself, is a freeper tactic.

[DancingBear]

21. I re-read the post in question

(sorry for butting in, BTW)

I can't say I really found anything insulting in it. Granted, we are coming from two different sides of the argument, but it seemed as if all the OP was doing was trying to explain the decision not from an emotional standpoint, but from a business one.

Pleas excuse the term "emotional" - it sounds as if I am dismissing other points of view, but I really couldn't come up with an appropriate term.

This is what happens when you don't get enough rest. :)

[bbgrunt]

13. False premise.? Is it really a choice betw AAR and MS?

I am trying to be patient with AAR management, but was royally screwed by the sirius-xm switch and do not trust them. I wonder if they still have someone who is into sabotaging the whole enterprise.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

19. Morning shows have to be quick, funny, loud

They have to wake you up, make you laugh. It's the commuting crowd. I think Marc Maron did that very well. Plus, I need to hear Planet Bush Bureau Chief, Lawton Smalls!! Will I never get to hear him again?

[DancingBear]

20. I think Bob Edwards did a fairly good job

His style was nothing like Morning Sedition, and it served him well.

One need not be a "wake up and laugh" personality in order to be successful.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

23. Seriousness is good but 24/7 it gives one an acid drip nt