CBC 5th Estate, Abu Ghraib expose starts now.

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Including interviews with guards.

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1. Cruz says

I viewed tham as a pop-up target I was supposed to take out.

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3. John Yu of US Justice

Says he doesn't see why rules designed for nation states should apply. They are called the Geneva Conventions.

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2. Canadian?

Fill us lower americas in.

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4. Jeffrey Miller 2 Star General

not intell expert, brought into Gitmo at time it was dysfunctional. A squared away soldier.

John Yu says: It's only torture if the level of pain rises to that of organ failure.

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5. Word got out resataints off,

anything goes as long as it's pursuing intell objectives.

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6. 2 mens' legs pulpified.

Died at Bagram, and Carolyn Wood got Bronze Star for Valor.

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7. 6 months into the war it was going badly,

no WMD, insurgency, and the US Army came to a haunted and dangerous Abu Ghraib.

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8. Janice Karpinsky remembers the pressure

the naive belief that if somehow Saddam was captured the populace would be out in the streets throwing flowers.

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9. The 5th Estate has hundreds of photos and videos

obtained under acces to information and never broadcast before. I can't describe this.

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11. Please tell us more

especially since we can't see the show in most of the US.

Thanks.

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10. Here is a link to the 5th Estate's web page on this documentary

There is a transcript of John Yoo's interview as well as photos, backgrounder, etc:

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/badapples/index.html

It looks like they will have a live link at this site TOMORROW that will allow viewing this program via streaming.

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12. Thanks.

Why is the CBC doing this?? They do it well, but why havn't I seen this on a US network??

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13. the Fifth Estate will tackle subjects that the US media won't touch

with a 10 foot pole, they are excellent. I watched the one on the Patriot Missile and it's total failure, it, too, was excellent. From their archives:

April 2, 2003
THE CAN'T MISS MISSILE
It was touted as the best defence money could buy against Iraqi Scuds and other deadly missiles. But as the fifth estate's Bob McKeown demonstrated on our February 5 programme, the Patriot missile turned out to be a bust in 1991. And now in the early days of the war in Iraq, it seems as if the Patriot has revealed one more fatal shortcoming. It is having trouble telling the difference between friend and foe. A whole new take on a cautionary tale about military hardware and military obfuscation.

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14. Yes, I saw that one, too. nt

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15. That's the root of the problem

If Americans are propagandized to the point that the truth is seen as propaganda...then we wont do anything about the corporate crooks running the country.

my .02

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16. This is excellent! Being in the west, I had to wait the three hours

to see this. It is hard to watch but is a must-see, imo.