OMG - Who was the Dem who was just on Paula Zahn?

[LeftCoast]

He was TERRIBLE. Whoever's responsible for putting Democratic spokespeople in front of the cameras better get their sh*t together.

[dorktv]

1. I wonder if it was that or the fact that they will only let lame people on

[LeftCoast]

2. He was just so damned innefectual

She asked him about the Dems that voted for the war and he totally hemmed and hawed. Then he tried to work some spin that was totally amaturish. All he had to say was that as the Plame case shows us, the evidence presented to the run up to the war was mostly fabricated. The Dems, along with every other American were misled into supporting a war based on lies. Period.

This kind of stuff just infuriates me.

[dorktv]

3. I know. It is annoying and typical. They always have someone

pointless on so that way we look stupid.

[LeftCoast]

4. If that's true, the Dems need to call them on it

We cannot expect to regain and hold power if they keep putting up stooges to represent the Democratic position.

[dorktv]

6. Boycotts of the programs might help. Letter/email/phoning could too.

We have plenty of firebreathers but the only one allowed on is Howard Dean.

[high density]

5. Exactly

1. Fabricated evidence (and they obviously trusted the president, which was a clearly mistake in hindsight.)
2. They boxed all of the senators into a corner where they were either "Supporting Saddam" or "Supporting the President and the USA" with the Iraq war resolution.

[tishaLA]

7. They had Armstrong Williams on tonight

That's a good enough reason to send them a little love note.

[Hardrada]

8. The Colmes-Daschle Syndrome

Tough to cure, heavy doses of quinine and grapeshot.

[loudsue]

9. They ALWAYS put in members of the DLC crowd:

That way, they get someone who can be "called" a Democrat, but who will do everything in their power to make it look like Dems don't have a message (same as the rightwing spin). That's why the DLC is there: to infiltrate the Dem party, and make it irrelevant.

:kick:

[LibertyorDeath]

10. "They ALWAYS put in members of the DLC crowd:"

and they think we don't notice.

This game is getting really old.

[UTUSN]

11. Julian EPSTEIN? (Transcript) - Sounds O.K. in the Reading

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0511/16/pzn.01.html

JULIAN EPSTEIN, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: I don't think Democrats are trying to have it both ways.

I think Democrats are levying legitimate criticisms. In fact, it is this -- it is typical of a White House that loses credibility -- the credibility numbers for this White House are in the 30 percent range. It's typical of a White House to go out and attack and blame your opponents.

The fact of the matter is, the public has lost faith in the honesty of this administration. They have lost faith in the competency of this administration with respect to its policies in Iraq. The Democrats aren't the ones that leaked classified information. The Democrats aren't the ones that misrepresented the intelligence information.

The Democrats aren't the ones that ignored all of the military experts who said we needed more capabilities on the ground in Iraq. So, for Dick Cheney to start accusing Democrats of being dishonest, when it is, in fact, his chief of staff, which -- who is on trial for obstruction of justice right now, I think is -- it's going to be a case of a dog that just doesn't bark.

People aren't going to believe it. It seems like a desperation tactic. And it's just not going to work. ....

EPSTEIN: I think the Democrats who voted for the authorization of war and those that didn't still want to see a stabilized Iraq and want to see a -- a positive resolution on behalf of the country. That's not the issue here.

The fact of the matter is, it's Republicans, as you pointed out, Paula, that are criticizing this administration for what is either incompetency or the misrepresentation of intelligence information.

And, furthermore, there is -- there is -- if you compare, for example, how Tony Blair, when he came before the United States Congress in 2003, when he was asked about weapons of mass destruction, he said, if we never find weapons of mass destruction, history will forgive us, because there are so many other important things.

The fact that this administration is the only one that can't see its own warts and wants to blame others, rather than accept any responsibility for its mismanagement...

ZAHN: All right.

EPSTEIN: ... is only making its situation much worse.

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