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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:48 PM
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Judy Miller sleeps with the fish, err Aspin...
I did not see this posted, so forgive me if dupe, but the first thing that comes to mind is what when you read this?



Miller, Mnookin writes, was an ebullient, indefatigable reporter who threaded the borders of acceptable journalistic practice.

"She dated Steve Ratner, one of Sulzberger's best friends... and had even, for a time, shared a vacation home with Sulzberger. She had a reputation for sleeping with her sources (in the 1980s, she both lived with then congressman Les Aspin and quoted him in her dispatches); ... for raining torrents of abuse on clerks, travel agents, and drivers; for cutting down her colleagues."

Aspin, a Democrat, supported Reagan's moves with the Iran Contras and was lauded as a "military expert" for predicting the first Gulf War could be won with light casualties. He was Secretary of Defense under President Bill Clinton.


http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Vanity_Fair_tears_into_exTimes_reporter_1207.html

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:57 PM
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1. OMG Lala--what terrible things you tell us!
"Aspin, a Democrat, supported Reagan's moves with the Iran Contras and was lauded as a "military expert" for predicting the first Gulf War could be won with light casualties. He was Secretary of Defense under President Bill Clinton."

Aspin supported Iran-Contra. (Somehow, over the years, I forgot that.)
He was Clinton's Defense Secretary.

Reprise: Clinton's Defense Secretary had supported Iran-Contra.

And people wonder why I've always expressed DLC-flavored reservations about Clinton.
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:15 PM
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4. Nicaraguan Contras, not Iran-Contra
Aspin supported U.S. aid to the Contras in Nicaragua. He did not have anything to do with the Iran-Contra scandal. The Rawstory passage gets it wrong.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:28 PM
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6. The "Contra" in Iran/Contra DOES refer to the Nicaraguan Contras.
... just in case anyone thought Iran had "Contras". :shrug:
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:34 PM
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8. Yes, but the point is that Aspin had nothing to do with ...
Iran-Contra. Rather, he was a supporter of legal, overt aid to the Contras. He had nothing to do with the Reagan administration's illegal, covert attempts to aid them in the Iran-Contra scandal.

The Rawstory passage should have said Aspin supported the "Contras", and not specified "Iran-Contra", which is a different issue even though both involved the same Contras.

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:12 AM
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11. Hi nsd!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:00 PM
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2. Judy Miller may be many things but journalist is not one of them.
That's the second thing that comes to mind, for me. The first thing is that mainstream journalism has come to a sorry pass if the likes of Judy Miller reflects the state of the craft.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:05 PM
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3. okay, thinking caps on... Aspin turning?
Blackmail on how she got friendly with her sources?
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:25 PM
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5. I see where you're going.
Interesting. Almost too corny for prime time. But Judy seem to be perfect for the part--nauseatingly self-important and terminally out of touch with reality. I imagine that she would view such a double-entendre as exceedingly clever.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:33 PM
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7. Whoa!!!! nt
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 12:19 AM
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9. I remember Scooter's entangled roots of changing aspens
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 04:12 AM
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10. She sleeps
With team lead in Iraq (then changes their course), she sleeps with Sec. of Def under Clinton (and uses him as primary source), she sleeps with Libby, Chalabi... anyone else?

The spy who shagged me?
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 02:46 AM
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15. Aspin won't talk
he's dead, for one thing...
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 02:26 PM
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12. So it seems Judith Miller really is a. . .prostitute. . .
...not just in the figurative sense.

:evilfrown:
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 02:26 AM
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13. or an asset
bedding intel and military people left and right (literally).
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 02:28 AM
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14. the Aspins are turning
over in their graves.
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