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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 06:21 PM
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Jehovah's Witness Beaten After Knocking
SAN BRUNO, Calif. (AP) - Three months in jail is the sentence for a California woman who used a butcher knife to beat a Jehovah's Witness, after the woman knocked on her door on Christmas Day.

Cathy Infusino also will spend three months in a work program and three years on probation. She pleaded no contest to assault with a deadly weapon.

Her lawyer says Infusino was paranoid and was being harassed by neighbors at the time of the attack.


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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 06:22 PM
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1. I Understand the Annoyance, but
damn...
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 06:23 PM
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2. That was my reaction, too. eom
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 04:25 AM
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30. yeah, big damn....
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 06:24 PM
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3. Anger management, perhaps? n/t
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 06:24 PM
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4. Ugh. MIchelle Malkin is going to love this
Although, maybe not. The fundies never really cared much for the Jehovah's Witnesses.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 06:27 PM
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5. Yeah, and you know what else? JW's don't celebrate Christmas.
So, I think the fundies will overlook this one.
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 06:43 PM
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6. Yeah, I used to be JW when I was younger...
And the Fundies have no use for them because not only do they not celebrate Xmas, but they are completely neutral politically. They take Jesus saying that "you are no part of the world, just as I am no part of this world" and "give Ceasar's things to Ceasar, but god's things to god" to mean to stay out of politics completely. I always tell my mom that I thank Koresh that JWs don't vote... we don't need another 2 million Repub. votes (as I'm sure the anti choice issue would rule the day).
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 06:45 PM
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7. They are also conscientious objectors, right?
Another reason why fundies would not like them. The JW's can be annoying. Some of them are very persistent. But that is not justification for beating them. I might swear at them, but not beat them. That is outrageous.
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 06:54 PM
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12. Correct. During the war (Vietnam and Korea especially)...
...many JWs went to prison and stayed there for absolutely refusing to go to war when drafted. (unless that was just something they taught us... I have no way of knowing if that's true or not).

If there were a draft today and I had a choice between fighting an unjust war or rotting in prison, I'd probably sit in a cell too.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 04:29 AM
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31. Those two verses you mentioned
is why I vote democratic. My beliefs politically are liberal and democratic while I am a Christian. I know it's okay from those verses to vote democratic and plus what the democrats believe in go hand and hand with my beliefs. Oh and I like the Howard Stern quote you have Grown2Hate.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 06:48 PM
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8. Just wrong
If you don't like someone fine, but you have no right to hit them. My dad's nephew and his family are Jehovah's Witness and I have no problem with them.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 06:48 PM
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9. Good Lord! A little extreme isn't it?
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 06:48 PM
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10. JWs on Christmas..grrrr
I would have a hard time not at least verbally abusing ANYONE who chose Christmas day to invade my privacy and force their religion on me. This gal may have stepped over the line a little, but doing this type of this is just ASKING to be abused.
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 06:57 PM
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14. Especially as an ex-JW, I can't totally disagree with you on that...
...We were always told that's a PERFECT time to go door to door, because everyone would be home. But even as a kid I thought it was just tactless to disrupt someone's family gathering to try and convert people.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 08:07 PM
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26. Also, I suppose there's a good chance you'll find people alone on Xmas
who are maybe lonely and ready to talk to anyone...even JW's.

My hubby was a JW.
So when we've had them come calling he says he was "Disfellowshipped."

They usually don't bother us again for awhile. :D
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Speed8098 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 07:54 AM
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33. "Convert"
Why do you suppose that religions are so hell bent on converting people?

I'd say that if you are a believer, then God is God no matter what religion you belong to. Why the need to have people "Worship your way"?

Is Catholcism a better line to God?
Do the Methodists have superior ways of communicating with God?
Are Pentecostals closer to heaven?
Are the Baptists wrong in their method of worship?
Maybe the Lutherans can get you on the fast track to Jesus.
I know......The Episcopalians say a better mass.

Note that I have stayed with the Christian side of things here. That's because I want to know why your way of worshipping Jesus is better than the rest.

I would think that the religious among us would just be happy to know that all of these other religions are similar to theirs in that they all respect the teachings of Jesus.

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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 06:53 PM
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11. I'm sorry for the Jehovah's Witness
n/t
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 06:56 PM
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13. This does not relate to Xmas, nor to the victim being a Jehovah's Witness.
It would appear that the attacker was unbalanced.

So what is the point of the post?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 07:05 PM
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16. That's my take, too--no normal person goes after one of those bozos
with a BUTCHER knife!!! A baseball bat, maybe (only kidding....!!!).

I'll tell ya, they used to irritate the living shit out of me. They would knock on my door early on the one day I had to sleep, so I put up a sign that says "My dog attacks when I am awakened before noon"--stopped them coming around!
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BronxBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 06:59 PM
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15. Why does this sound like
a plot to a bad comedy sketch?
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 07:07 PM
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17. Uh...if you don't like them, ignore them or just tell them no politely.
This is a bit over the top.
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ctl Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 07:15 PM
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18. a good way to politely get a jehovah to stop knocking
Open the door drinking a beer and offer them one.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 07:20 PM
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19. I had a friend who was a theater major.
He answered the door dressed in a purple robe, hooded, with a pentagram emblazoned in red on the chest.

He says he's never seen another Witness again.
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 07:21 PM
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20. my dad would just say thanks, pop it open and have a seat
they drink, just not to excess....fine line that one rule is, too!

from a former JW here too...

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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 07:29 PM
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22. And correct me if I am wrong but
don't they celebrate weddings, anniversaries and showers (baby, bridal)? I am asking because I have known JW's to go to these type events.
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 08:38 PM
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28. Yeah, that's about ALL they celebrated...
...we were told that just about EVERYTHING (xmas, halloween, even easter, birthdays) had "pagan origins" which was, well, true. But I hardly see the harm now. Pagan=evil to them. I think the argument against birthdays was that only two were mentioned in the bible, and in each someone faithful to god was killed (John the Baptist beheaded as a birthday gift in one), or they were generally presented in a negative light. As much as I vehemently disagree with nearly all of their positions (hell, I'm an atheist now), I can still explain just about all of it. It's irritating, but useful sometimes.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 07:28 PM
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21. Or open the door wearing
nothing but a smile. I am too modest to to this but I hear its effective for any unwanted solicitation. :D
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 07:45 PM
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23. Not sure if it would be effective or not.
Could you submit a photo?
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 08:05 PM
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25. ROFL! n/t
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 09:41 PM
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29. I see you submitted a photo.
I will not comment on that photo, I will not comment on that photo....
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 04:29 PM
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39. Hi ctl!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 07:52 PM
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24. Beaten with a butcher's knife?
Usually you stab or slash someone with a knife. Weird.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 08:09 PM
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27. I dunno, this sounds like another 'the missing ingredient is meth' story.
JMO.
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 07:34 AM
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32. OK: How do you BEAT someone with a KNIFE?
Sorry, I can't wrap my mind around this.

Do you hold the blade and hit them with the handle?
Do you hold the handle and hit them with the blade?

Sad, scary story, but still a rather weird assault.

mikey_the_rat
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Ms. K Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 08:31 AM
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34. WTF?
Now, I politely tell JWs that I'm Catholic (which, since I haven't been excommunicated is nominally true, since HMC still considers those who Her priests have baptized to be Catholic), and thanks for their time, and that's usually the last I see of them.

I've been nice enough to invite the Mormon missionary boys who are out riding their bikes in the ungodly heat of summer in for a glass of water, and if they offer to pray with me, I don't refuse them.

I've had to resort to being somewhat rude when I've gotten the occasional missionary who sticks his or her foot in my door and won't take no for an answer (that involved waking up my daddy, who came to the door with an unloaded .44, which caused dust clouds in the shape of missionaries to appear as they split rather rapidly...). But cause actual physical violence to someone who just comes knocking on the door? That goes a lot beyond anything I've ever said or done to get rid of someone who's being overly pushy.

Makes me wonder what this woman was under the influence of. The woman who attacked the poor JW lady, not the JW herself.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 08:44 AM
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35. Now THERE is evidence there IS a God!!
right
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NicRic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 09:13 AM
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36. My exprience with a group of jahovahs witness visit !
As a young 15 year old boy ,I remember answering the door one day and two ladys handing me a booklet ,and started discussing this religon ,I was taught to always be polite to stangers and respect adults ,so at their persistence I listened to them for probably a good hour .I finally told them I had somewhere to go. ! They asked me if I would be interested in going to their church the up coming Sunday and again trying to be polite , I said I would think about it . Iam a full blooded Italian and my family has been Chatholic's for generations ,my Grand Parents on both sides of my family came to the US from Italy in the 1920's ! Well the next Sunday early mornig the doorbell rang ,we lived in a rather large house and my bedroom was at the end of the upstairs hallway ,so I did not even hear it ! However my mother did ,who goes to Church every Sunday ,and was probably in the process of getting ready for exactly that ,well imagine her surprise when some 15 Johovah Witnesses where at our front door asking for her 15 year old son ? she was polite however firm that we where devote Chatholic's and had no wish to go to their church. To this day I still have seen groups of them ,come into an area and go knocking on peoples doors ! Iam still polite ,however I have learned unless you are really interested ,you must firmly say no thanks and quickly close the door ,B/4 a foot stops it from closing !
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 09:14 AM
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37. WHY are these Jehovah trolls NOT in JAIL for TRESPASSING?!
Can ANYONE for the love of JEHAVAH please explain to me WHY TRESPASSING IS OK for these SCUMBAGS??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Imagine if this was someone from a non-mainstream religion, say, the CHURCH OF SATAN?! And that person got beaten. Do you think the person who beat the Satanist would serve ONE SECOND in jail!? Me thinks NOT...

HAIL SATAN! We need to do a JAIL BREAK on this woman and sic her on MORE of these criminal trespassing Jehovah SLIME.
Lu Cifer, NO JUSTICE?! NO PEACE...
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 09:23 AM
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38. Ok; I'm sorry...
This DID make me giggle for about a minuite. I am sorry that someone got hurt....but you have to admit.....that's so insane it's ludicriously hilarious. Yes; I will get help...
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 05:12 PM
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40. They don't need a good beating. They just need a good lay.
:wow:

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