Does ANYBODY at the NSA know how to disobey an illegal order ?

[EVDebs]

Or do they all do whatever Bush says like good little neocons ? I understand under the ruse of 'training exercises' that they do domestic spying on whomever they want anyway, so maybe even Bush isn't preventing files from being created on our Congressmen/women.

Kind of like the Hoover files (kept next to his panty drawer at DOJ).

[Porcupine]

1. I think that they just download porn and snoop into brokerages....

I mean their jobs are all secret right? But every time there is a major terrorist attack or political upheaval they are totally clueless beforehand. Look at their performance just before the collapse of the Soviet Union. They were telling the rest of us that we could expect a "Red Dawn" scenario in five years.

So what do they really do? They have the best porn collections in the world. These guys have a complete collection of Paris Hilton's sexual experiences. When that gets boring they dig around in Merril Lynches computers and try to beat tomorrows stock market. If anybody asks what they did all day with all those computers; TOP SECRET, read and die.

I mean how much more wrong could they get. They think we are winning something in Iraq.

[Warpy]

2. Don't you get it? They evolved into an illegal government

a shadow government that has poisoned the foreign policy of this country for over 50 years and that has used one faction of the CIA (the "cowboy" faction) as its private army, funded by drug importation.

The NSA should have been disbanded the day the Berlin Wall fell and the cold war ended. That's when their original mission ended.

[SammyWinstonJack]

3. Aren't they all good little bushbots? Loyal to the BFEE?

Maybe they don't want to be "Wellstoned"

[LaurenG]

4. Don't be surprised if the NSA helps to bring bush down

I am certain that not all of them are swine. There are always those who know right from wrong and may do something about it.

[EVDebs]

8. Not likely. Look how they helped Bush spike investigations....

FBI AND US SPY AGENTS SAY BUSH SPIKED BIN LADEN PROBES BEFORE 11 SEPTEMBER
The Guardian (London)
Wednesday, November 7, 2001

2001 Project Censored Award Winner
http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=103&row=1

No one in the domestic press bothered to even report this. We on DU are being watched right now, even as you read THIS. This is the 'forbidden truth' that MSM doesn't want you reading.

Those FBI and NSA who leaked this...where are they now ? The entire 'bubble boy' article in the recent Newsweek was peppered with 'anonymous source refused to give name...due to fear of reprisal'

[Liberal In Texas]

5. The NSA has been skirting the Constitution for years.

Every DUer should read James Bamford's books about the NSA. The NSA tried to block publication of the first one, but all of his research was done legally and they couldn't pin anything on him. The publishers blurb: In the three decades it has existed, the NSA has demonstrated a shocking disregard for the law.

The budget for the NSA is larger than the FBI and CIA combined. And still they weren't able to warn us about the 911 attacks.


The Puzzle Palace
and

Body Of Evidence

Bamford's first book was published in 1982.
(Similar post elsewhere, but I thought it might bear repeating.)

[Gregorian]

6. There was a post over at DKos on this

The poster had experience with the NSA. He even posted the exact copy of the laws they violated, and said that they had to know they were violating them. I saw this last night. If I felt better I'd go search for you.
I think the answer is that they will be involved in shedding light on the details.

God. I'm so pissed. This shithead and his gang of criminals has cost this country INCREDIBLE loss of productivity, while me and you and everyone else wastes their time trying to tackle them. Billions of man hours are gone. Fuck Bush.

[Poll_Blind]

7. They do, or did. They were purged and replaced. n/t

PB