I am not drunk. Please hear me out.

[Pam-Moby]

On Thursday morning, I was getting my daughter ready for school. I looked out my daughters bedroom window and saw a black SUV setting out front of the house. That was at 6am. I had my husband come look out the window. The SUV sat there for 40 minutes with one person inside with the dome light on. Then it drove away. So 10 minutes later the SUV was back. My husband called the police to report the SUV and within 1 minute the SUV took off like a bat out of hell. Now who ever it was must of had a police scanner in their SUV. Now-my husband had written a article about how bad this administration is. It was printed 2 weeks ago. I had written one and it was printed the day before this SUV happening. What would you think of this?

[AX10]

1. Well, Bush is in fact spying on his opponets.

[GrpCaptMandrake]

2. You're not crazy

Welcome to the Police Security State.

[Pam-Moby]

7. This has bothered me for the past few days.

If it happens again I will walk out and get his plate number and report it to the police. When this happened I thought that someone may be up to no good. The high school kids get on the bus around this time. That is why the hubby called the police to report it. But the more I think about it, makes me wonder if we are the victim of the secret service.

[proud2BlibKansan]

34. Now you are creeping me out

I just looked out my window and a car drove by aiming a spotlight at my house! I screamed at my son to look out there and see who the hell it was.

LOL It was the pizza guy. We forgot to turn on the porch light after we called to order the pizza.

[mattclearing]

109. More likely it's the hired contractors.

Secret Service are usually in uniform and marked visibly, from my understanding. They have contractors like Blackwater that do this sort of thing...they supplement the Secret Service and are sort of Bush's private security force.

[havocmom]

3. I think you, your husband and Will Pitt should go for a beer

and compare notes.

You are not the first folks to notice this sort of, ahem, attention after publication of critical nature.

[babylonsister]

4. Did you try to get the plate numbers?

And have you done anything to warrant being spied on?

[Pam-Moby]

9. Did not get the plate number.

The only thing that have done is articles being published in our local paper about B*sh, and
MI R-Rogers. Nothing else.

[Ouabache]

83. If he parks the same place everytime it would be a shame if a box

roofing nails got spilled there. just sayin'

[Pam-Moby]

89. LOL yes, I told the hubby that

this afternoon. He said our luck that we would run through it with our van. LOL

[Cleita]

5. Better mail your bills and Tax returns way ahead of the due

dates. They can intercept your mail, and often it will get to the mailed address late, while they take their time obliviating your privacy. I know. It happened to my Tax return last year.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

6. Get a camera ready

and a notebook. If the vehicle comes back, record it in the book and take a picture/video. And report it again to the cops. If they persist, have neighbors ready to back you up - with cameras and video cameras- and go with you to confront these people, asking them what the **** they are doing in your neighborhood.

But, to ease your fears-it could be someone else (like a private eye doing surveilance, maybe not on you but a neighbor) who happens to have a scanner. I'd still do what I suggested above, especially calling the cops. They need to know if this keeps up.

[Pam-Moby]

12. Yes I will do what you suggested.

We will hook up our outside camera and record on to video. thanks for the info.

[AuntiBush]

37. You're not alone - I kid you not.

Do as the last poster said.

Keep near the window:

A camera w/flash.
Note Pad, and several workable pens.
Take photos. Document the type of vehicle, etc. to the best of you're ability.
Have your husband walk out and just walk around, casually checking you're own vehicle or something.

That should do it. Still, report it to the locals. At least that person will know you're not afraid because that's what it's about - intimidation.

Good luck! Been there. Done that. It's scary as hell, but once you learn to keep you're senses and reverse the psych, it will generally stop.

[femrap]

47. I had 3 different cars at 3 different times sitting at my house....

I went out and pretended I was getting something out of my trunk and got the license plate number. I also made a point of looking right at him. He left immediately. Another time I looked out the kitchen window and this guy was just sitting there reading some papers...sat for 1/2 at hour.....when he looked up and saw me looking at him...he gave this strange 'signal' of rubbing the side of his nose and then left.

The third time I saw someone out there....I smiled and waved. And he left. Haven't seen anything since....but at the time I had organized a MoveOn Rally at the Federal Court House regarding saving the Filibuster and a 'Welcome Wagon' for Rove when he came here to fundraise.

Nixon's administration did this...I have assumed all along that the neocons were doing it, too.

[tuvor]

54. I'd only suggest that the flash not be used whenever possible.

Several reasons:

It'll draw attention to you.
Flash has little to no effect beyond several yards.
If you take a photo from behind a window, the flash will reflect back.

Take care.

[AuntiBush]

115. Good Suggestion.

Everyone take care.

[asjr]

8. You have every right to be suspicious. I feel more

and more of this is happening. You happened to notice. We all need to be alert, especially after the event of the last couple of days when we learned of the domestic spying.

[Cleita]

11. Well, don't laugh, but helicopters do hover over our property

ever now and then. They have been more frequent lately. There is nothing out here but a few ranches. I don't know what they are looking for. Oh, I didn't see if they were black or not and it's usually after dark.

[asjr]

15. No way I would laugh. Now I might laugh at any

helicopters flying over my rural area because they are probably only looking for illegal distillerys. (I hope.)

[Cleita]

25. Since where I live is a rich ranching area,

horses, llamas and such, there are no meth labs, stills, or hemp to look for. I have a small mobile on a relative's property. So I can only come to the conclusion that they are looking for something else.

[Catchawave]

10. If it happens again.....

get the license number ! The black SUV sounds so Agent Mikey.

Could be a pedophile too waiting for the kiddies to head to school? Or someone casing the neighborhood for a robbery?

I'm glad you called the police :hi:

[Obamarama]

13. I had something similar occur last year...

I noticed an unmarked utility vehicle parked in front of my house, running, for more than 20 min the morning after I had returned from being out of the country for four weeks. It had two very large antennas on it. This was also the morning before the 2004 election. Prior to my trip overseas I had been attending many Kerry meet-up gatherings, and had written a scathing Viewpoint column about nationalism disguised at patriotism that was published in the local paper just prior to my departure.

I went out to the street to ask the man driving the van what he was doing there but he took off after I came out of my house.

I have no idea if I was being watched, but I can't help but feel freaked out when revisiting this episode. I did breeze through security and customs the day before so if they were watching me, I must not have been on the big, bad scary person list...just the nusiance list, LOL.

What scares me MOST about being surveilled, if that's what it was, is that someone is wasting a lot of time and money keeping tabs on a harmless citizen while a lot of nefarious people out there slink about.

[Pam-Moby]

19. I read something like this before here on DU

about a cable truck outside there home while they were gone and the neighbors told them and their internet was down. I do not think they ever said what happened after that.

[IowaGuy]

14. On a somewhat related note...

have been noticing a significant number of "Homeland Security" cop cars around here....fully marked, lights, cherrys, cage for a back seat, etc...regular kind of wagons you would see on a city beat...again, fully marked as "Homeland Security"....carrying Federal license plates....what are these for and what is their beat. Some have had a "Witness Relocation Program" sticker on them.
This just seems odd to me you would think you would want a slightly lower profile for that type of operation, can't really figure out what they are doing. Every time I see one...the driver and or passenger are in plain clothes...

[elehhhhna]

108. A witnesss relocation STICKER on them? That's sooooo Bush Administration!

DUH.

prolly scouting an area for Bushie to retire to. He'll HAVE to change his identity before this is over. When the usa goes belly-up he ain't gonna be so super popular anymore.

[Pam-Moby]

16. We are up to date on our income taxes.

We are up on our bills. The only thing that I can think of is our impeach-bush bumper sticker along with our DU bumper sticker and the articles that we wrote for the paper.
Please people keep watch what is going on around you. I am not the paranoid type. No tin foil hat here. The only reason why I posted this is because I am concerned and I wanted to know what you all thought about it. Thanks for the suggestions.

[Cleita]

17. You have every right to be alert and to be suspicious.

We are indeed living in interesting times, when it seems black is white and cold is hot.

[hlthe2b]

18. Here's how I think we should fight back....

1. Acquire a battery operated bullhorn
2. When something like this occurs repeatedly, not only get the license plate, but document the vehicle by still photos or video.

3. Rather than approach the vehicle (which if it was some pedophile or potential burglar, could be risky), come out with your bullhorn and loudly announce to the neighborhood that we are all under surveillance by persons unknown, describe the car, license plate number, and report that you have made a report to local law enforcement.. Then announce that neighbors should similarly report any strange vehicles continually present in the neighborhood-- and that they should be aware that this could be illegal governmental surveillance... Ask your neighbors to flood the police with complaints and demand a trace of the license plate and a neighborhood meeting where the police would have to notify the residents of their findings from the license plate trace....

4. Follow up with a summary printed notice to your neighbors, including a photo image of the car, details, etc.

I would guess, that no "agent Mikes" will come near your neighborhood again....

[Pam-Moby]

20. Thank you.

What a wonderful idea. I do not have a bullhorn, but I could get one. I will keep watch next week and see if the SUV comes back. My guts are telling me that he must have a police scanner. Because the first time SUV left. He took off normally and the second time he peeled out like there was a fire. That was right after the call to the police.

[hlthe2b]

31. Good luck... No matter who it is, it is clear they don't want

publicity.... So, I don't think you can go wrong by "exposing" him.

[catzies]

61. There are a lot of elderly in my development, but I'd definitely video

from my driveway and have a phone in my hand too...but who I'd call I'm just not sure. :shrug:

My town has a Navy base, the Air National Guard station, and a non-descript building in one of our office-strips has the IRS, Defense Investigate Services INS, Homeland Security, and a few others that escape me.

Once upon a time that was supposed to make us feel really safe, wasn't it? I'm of the "duck-and-cover" school kids' generation and all it does is make me feel creeped out. :scared:

[gulfcoastliberal]

21. I know lots of Duers are anti gun, but...

I keep one in the car and one in the nightstand. Here in Jebland it's legal to keep a loaded gun in your glove compartment or center console - as long as it is not in view. Tee hee. Give me liberty or give me death - and certainly don't give me anal rape.

A friend who worked as a cook told me how a waiter related to him how he was jailed for DUI and resisting arrest because he fled the cops. I think it was over 60 stitches to the rectum. No thanks.

[Pam-Moby]

24. Well I am not anti gun.

I and my husband are CCW holders. Here you have to have a CCW to have in your car. Ouch

[Ilsa]

26. The biggest liberal I "know" says he packs heat.

Mike Malloy on AAR said he has had to carry to ages now because of harassment.

[JanMichael]

44. There are weapons in our house too.

Then again I'm a hardcore Leftist and Stephanie is a much milder Liberal, however two of the three are hers...

[riderinthestorm]

22. I have had a car or truck sitting on my street every day for months

Usually for several hours at a time. Ever since I hosted Cindy Sheehan at my place for a rally. I've spoken at a couple anti-war events since and also gone to some vigils but I don't think of myself as any kind of radical force. I'm not even as outspoken as many others so I've been thinking that I HAVE been drunk for being so suspicious.

Every single day. Even my kids notice them now since it's so wierd.

Your post though gives me some pause for thought....

On top of this wiretapping thing, now I dunno. Maybe there is more surveillance going on than we have ever believed possible. I will say that if they are surveilling people like me however, they really don't have anything better to do. I can think of others who are much more subversive, persuasive, and dynamic with real abilities to lead a counter-protest movement that would be far more worthy of their time and attention.

[Pam-Moby]

28. This does not sound good.

You are not being over suspicious. I know how we feel about what is going on here. I do not know if it is some rapist, killer, robber, surveillance for this administration or who they are or what they want. Please report it to the police. We will call them again if it happens again.

[riderinthestorm]

59. We make a point of waving every time we pass

My older daughter will feign taking their picture as we pass but we almost always acknowledge them in some way.

I would think that some of them are broken down but there are always people in those cars and trucks!

I have a good 1/2 mile of empty road North and South of my house so it's pretty obvious when a car is sitting on the side of the road - they can't possibly be "waiting" for anyone else. There isn't anyone else living on this road.

I am in a solidly red district (Henry Hyde is my congressman). I used to be wierded out and suspicious but for my kids' sakes we laugh and wave.

Now I wonder if I should be more careful especially reading some of the other responses. We DID have our tax returns mysteriously NOT get to the IRS (I'm the owner of a corporate farm and we file quarterly - we finally mailed them certified and registered receipt). We DO have mysterious clicks on the phone line. Most bizarre of all, all three of my home computers were infected with a virus on the exact same day, disabling the modems on all of them even though I have the most up-to-date virus and firewall software (I am an internet freak, emailing reps, contacts and bloggers daily). Democratic Underground is just a fraction of my emailing/internet repertoire as it is....

:scared:

(goes to the door and re-checks locks...)

[lildreamer316]

97. Umm; Rider;..

I would bet money that you are being tapped and watched. Read responses below; clicks on phones are normal for tapping. Please be alert and careful.

[lvx35]

99. Clicks on phones are a mindfuck, ignore them.

I know for a fact you can tap lines without clicks, and its actually easy enough that a lot more people can do it than the government. The think is that you can't make the mistake that these people are from, or fully supported by the government. That's why its important to call the cops, get pictures, etc. And everybody whose been through this is so not alone!!!

[Ilsa]

23. I hope it is only an idiot hoping to

harass you, but someof those idiots can be very dangerous. Stay vigilant! It is exhausting, but you need to be on your toes for awhile.

Hugs and best wishes for a good outcome.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

27. For every innocent American who is spied/surveilled upon, another

real threat to Amerika goes about his/her business unhampered. Stupid is as stupid does, wasted resources are just that, wasted.

[lvx35]

100. well said

whenever I hear about this bullshit, and it is widespread, I wonder where the money is coming from.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

104. Why..... it is coming from SS, medicaid, and your children's

children's piggy banks.

[greenman3610]

29. get a license plate

[radwriter0555]

30. It's normal. I was staked out and tapped for several months in 01/02

and of course, since all I am is a dissenter, nothing ever came of it.

Enjoy the company and point and laugh at them openly, and refer to them often when you hear the clicks and interference on your phone line.

They run quicker when they know you're on to them. It only embarrasses them.

[AuntiBush]

46. You, too...

Yup. All those "clicks and interferences"on the phone line. Everyone hears them. Sometime you hear them, and the other party does not. Sometimes vice versa. But most times all parties here those clicks.

As I grew closer and closer to something big connected to these evil ba#tards, interference grew.

We learned to laugh, making jokes about how bored they must be listening to us. And to think, with all the criminals on the streets they choose to do this, to average American citizens.

Must pay good, huh Agent Miky... :hi:

[lvx35]

101. Oh yes.

If you really think you're bugged, play the social situation, you have this gimp sitting there with his mouth taped shut, and you are free to speak. run with it.

[The Backlash Cometh]

32. Get binoculars and be prepared to write down license numbers.

[mzmolly]

33. I'd get a video camera and tape the jerk. I'd walk right outside and

let him know your watching/aware.

[Ouabache]

88. After enough of it, I would get in my car with a spotlight, pull up facing

him, turn on my brights and the spotlight and sit there staring at the mofo.

[Joy Anne]

35. had the same thing years ago

When I lived in the city, two guys sat in a car in front of my corner rowhouse for hours one night. I called the cops, who showed up and rousted them. They turned out to be FBI who were doing surveillance (not very competently) on somebody down the side street who'd just gotten out of prison.

Yes, call the local cops; get the license number and whatever other descriptions you can.

[Scout1071]

36. Do you have WiFi? Could have been someone pilfering it?

I haven't seen it, but I've heard tales of people sitting in their cars outside of someone's house with WiFi.

[Pam-Moby]

40. I am sorry, what is WiFi?

[Scout1071]

42. Wireless Internet Access.

Although I'm sure I'm missing the actual term.

[Pam-Moby]

50. No we have DSL and is not wireless

[shanti]

60. WAR DRIVING - thank you!!

i have wireless also and have had idling cars parked infront of my house. when i locked my system down, they disappeared.

[Pam-Moby]

64. Oh Wow that is nuts.

What is wrong with these people. What do they think they will gain by this?

[shanti]

75. free internet access

also, they can use your connection for nefarious purposes. LOCK IT DOWN, if you have wireless.

[Pam-Moby]

77. We have no wireless.

We also shut down the pc when we go to bed.

[shanti]

82. ok, well, there's one theory in the trashcan!

just trying to help:) now you're really freaking me out.

(war driving does exist tho.)

[Pam-Moby]

90. Yes I done a google on the war driving.

I had never heard of that one.

[SupplyConcerns]

38. Elliott Smith believed he was being followed

Not to change the subject, but to point our someone famous who shared your perspective. The late singer Elliott Smith believed, in the last year of so of his life, that he was being followed by a couple of men in suits in a white van. Now, Elliott was in pretty poor mental health, but his friends we surprised to note, after he made this claim, that they too noticed the white van. Smith was not a very political writer, although his snogs hinted at a social conscience and he majored in politics in college. He didn't have alot of personal enemies. Was it the government, for some reason, prioritizing famous people with followings for some reason? This would have been in 2002 or 2003. I got the story from the bio "Elliott Smith and the Big Nothing".

[RevolutionStartsNow]

65. Really? I didn't know that. I loved Elliott Smith

and still mourn him every time I hear his music.

He was not political at all, so I doubt he would have been followed for his music.

[SupplyConcerns]

111. It could have been private detectives, of course

This is probably the most likely scenario - they were sent by the record label or someone else who was concerned with him to see how badly he was doing. Come to think of it, I think this was his theory, that it was the record label.

[BamaBecky]

39. Put security camera's up

several of them - some hidden

[meisje]

41. There's a black helicopter outside my front window right now!

[lies and propaganda]

43. i empathize completely.

ive ordered some crazy ass books off amazon and Im the only of 'my kind' in the neighborhood.
I think its good to be a bit paranoid or weary.. keeps you on your feet and then you notice shit that is actually happening, as it seems to have in your case. Spooky.

[bonito]

45. You got plenty of company

They had us staked out too. I got up early one morning before dawn and there was a suv across the street, concerned about the neighborhood kids going to school I went out to it, taking its tag number down first, approaching it ,he rolled down the window, telling him of my concern and that I was calling the sheriffs office, he flashed a private investigator badge and said the sheriffs office had been notified of his surveillance, well I came and went as usual throughout the day and about 2 pm. he was still there, turns out he's battery had died running the video camera pointed at my front door, for what I don't know, maybe because I have found out about colloidal silver? I don't know, but whatever their afraid of, its their fear. Peace

[Quakerfriend]

48. Definitely get some binoculars and record on video.

I have noticed that the DoD visits my computer several times/day. We can see the hits on our firewall.

Terra, terra ...Those Quakers are very scary 'cause they are for PEACE and social justice!

I have also noticed more low flying helicopters and VERY frequent chem trails- 4-5 times/week right over my house! And, trust me these are NOT ordinary grids, as some have claimed. This is deliberate spraying of something.

[Contrary1]

49. Here ya go...

[RagingInMiami]

51. If it shows up again

Just walk out there and start taking photos. Walk right up to it and take a photo of the license plate. Take a photo of whomever is inside.

You won't be breaking the law.

[AZBlue]

52. You're not drunk or crazy.

But that would drive me to drink!

What about sending another article in about just this? Seems like pointing it out in public would make you safer.

[Pam-Moby]

55. You maybe correct.

My husband has another article that should come out in the next week or so. They only print 1 article per month per person. What a good idea.

[AZBlue]

57. That was always a plan in the back of my mind.

They can't be so subversive if you bring them out in the open. Good luck!! Keep us posted and let us know if there's anything we can do - you know DU will have your back! :grouphug:

[Pam-Moby]

58. Thank you.

I am not sure why this had happened, but I will be watching. If it happens again I will get the plate number and report it to the police again. Just maybe we can get to the bottom of this.

[SPKrazy]

53. While I'm Not Saying It Isn't * and co., other reasons on here are more

likely.

And maybe more serious: burglars staking out a house, a pedophile, private investigator, etc.

But calling the cops, taking pics, writing down plates will probably run whoever it is off!

I was convinced last summer that there was someone surveilling me, but it turned out he was waiting for his wife who was in an Abstract office at the end of my street.

If it is * and co., I agree with posters who say that surely they have better things to do with their time, unless you are someone who needs monitoring ;)

[Pam-Moby]

56. If they were investigating us.

Would they peel out like a crazed fool just because we called the cops? The person saw us looking out the window for sure. So he knows we were on to him.

[shanti]

62. it's war driving, google it.

i had he same thing happen. they peeled out when i turned on the porch light.

[porphyrian]

63. Next time, get all the information on them that you can.

Make, model, description of the driver, the plate number, exact times and places. Record it. Post it here. Let's watch them back.

[Pam-Moby]

66. Good idea

[FreedomAngel82]

67. Interesting

Maybe you're being spied on or maybe just paranoid. Are you involved with politics to where you'd be a threat to them? :shrug:

[Pam-Moby]

69. No threat to them. I am not paranoid.

I just wondered what other would think about it.

[dusmcj]

68. videotape them and insist that the police investigate

be prepared for the possibility (not a sure thing) that it escalates into a war of nerves, but then you're in the right and they're in the wrong, so pardon the profanity, but fuck them.

[Pam-Moby]

70. Yes, that is what the hubby said too.

But I just wonder why. It could be that they was here about a neighbor or something. But I will be watching every morning.

[dusmcj]

96. if you get bored with caring about it/them, you could play them

for example, borrow/otherwise acquire a playboy centerfold and tape it in a window facing their direction. Keep moving past the window mooning them, but being sure that your face doesn't show (so you don't provide them with photographic evidence linking your ID to the moon. Forgive me, I don't mean to be offensive to you, but to them, and with the conservative tendency to start giggling when sex becomes part of a situation and think that they've discovered something significant, there are rare opportunities here... Whatever you do (walk by same window flipping bird or picking nose - EVERY time) keep it light (on yourself) and tight (for yourself). Give them nothing if you can avoid it, and exploit any mistakes they make to the fullest. Enjoy your own political action, live, in your neighborhood. Should you discover either via the police or other means that this was some flavor of surveillance, immediately post here (and keep kicking it), and also alert your hometown media.

[mtnsnake]

71. You might be worrying for nothing. Here's what the guy was probably doing

He was casing someone out but not you. Probably waiting for someone to pull out of a driveway way down the street but within safe viewing distance from where he was parked in front of your house. I doubt he'd have his dome light on if he was casing your place out or trying to intimidate you. Anyway, after he waited 40 minutes, he drove down the street to make sure he hadn't somehow missed his intended car coming out of the target's driveway earlier. So he drove by their place, made sure the car was still in their garage or driveway, then returned by your house to wait for that car to pull out. The car pulled out and he drove after it like a bat out of hell so he wouldn't lose it at a red light. He might have been a suspicious husband or even a private detective waiting for one of your neighbor's boyfriends down the street to pull out of their driveway and follow him to get the scoop on him.

[Pam-Moby]

73. Who knows. I hope that is what its about.

[mtnsnake]

81. I'll bet that it is. Be on your toes, but don't go worrying too much

I'm sure lots of people do things like that which get perceived the wrong way. Have you ever driven real slowly around an unfamiliar neighborhood looking for a certain residence at dusk but it's so hard to see the house numbers that you have to slow down and sometimes even stop and walk part way up to someone's door just to read the number on their house? Then you turn around and go back to your car, get in, and continue down the street driving very slowly again looking for the correct house? Well how do you think that gets perceived by someone who's watching you from windows in that neighborhood? Even though you're just looking for a number, it could look like you're scouting the neighborhood for the wrong reason. Like if you happen to be driving very slowly by a house where someone just wrote an article similar to yours, they might be suspicious of you, too.

Don't let the article you wrote get the best of you. I highly doubt that anyone who's offended by your article would park by your place for 40 minutes and just sit there. I think it's a coincidence.

[Swamp Rat]

72. They are watching you

[Pam-Moby]

74. OMG that looks like the guy in the car.

LOL just joking. I did not see the guy that clear.

[Swamp Rat]

79. I'd be more worried about child molesters than the "men" in black SUVs.

Maybe he was a snoop, but who cares? What can he do, arrest you for your thoughts and opinions? If that is what they plan to do, then they better have prisons large enough to hold 100 million people.

I wouldn't worry too much. If you see him again, call the police, then get your neighbors and go out to greet him and ask him what the HELL he is doing in your neighborhood. Maybe he is a detective looking for real criminals?

[Catherine Vincent]

76. You know there was another DUer that had the same thing happen to them.

It was a car or SUV that parked in front of their house while they were away and the neighbor told them about it.

[Pam-Moby]

78. Yes, I do remember something like this.

But I can not remember who it was here on DU. So I do not know what ever happen with them.

[lvx35]

102. I have had this sort of stuff happen. Its lots and lots of people.

I kid you not. They are there, they are survelling people. It is not 30 times as Bush said with the NSA, its all over the place.

[InkAddict]

80. Mortgage companies use spying

to check the occupancy status and well-being of THEIR properties and charge for their self-service.

[Pam-Moby]

91. That maybe but we have lived here for over 22 years.

The house is close to being paid off. I think that at 6am is a bit early for that don't you think? Could be I guess. I will keep my eye open.

[UrbScotty]

84. The biggest 'coincidence' since 3 Texas Repubs got 18181 votes each (nt)

[Pam-Moby]

92. Who would have ever thunk that.

Now that is odd.

[banana republican]

85. Ok lets all take a deep breath and exhale.

1) The gov't can read your computer monitor from the street. This is not a joke I've had a secret clearance and it is well known.

2) The gov't has stationed satellites where they can receive microwaves beamed to various locations.

3) the gov't has the ability to create transmitters the size of a cockroach which can broadcast video and sound.

sorry about the paranoia but they already know who I am.

[Pam-Moby]

93. Well it could be nothing. I was just wondering what others

thought. The only thing I do on the pc is email reps and DU and a few garden friends. Plus write articles in the news paper & DU and impeach-bush bumper sticker. No tickets, no court cases, up to date on bills. So I guess if its them, then they will do nothing but watch me. But maybe we should go out to the van, get in and pull behind him. When he takes off maybe we should follow him for a bit and see how he likes it.

[LuCifer]

86. I've had that shit too...

...but now that I live in the boonies, and anything out of the ordinary stands out, I haven't had such in a while. Once I had a woman in a plain old 4 door car sit right smack across the street outside my old house at like 7 AM. So I went out and asked CAN I HELP YOU?! And damned if they didn't take off like a bat out of hell. Never saw them before or since. I mean, be a little more damn obvious about it why don't you?! And seriously, spying on ordinary people!? Talk about INsercure! Your neo-KKKon wingnuts agenda sucks shit so BAD that you have to resort to CRAP LIKE THIS?! It speaks volumes. And no, I will NOT stop speaking my mind that this turd BU$Hitler and his cretin crew are THE WORST SLIMEBALLS EVER. Sorry to ruin your day you spying morons.

Lu

[Raydawg1234]

87. I think you're paranoid, There are 80,000 members on this

site. They couldn't possibly be spying on everyone. Maybe they were delivering newspapers, or maybe they were trying to find somone's house and got lost? Maybe they were smoking pot(nope never done that before)?

When I was a kid I loved to play spy! :sarcasm:

[Pam-Moby]

94. No one ever said it was from being on DU.

:shrug:

[Raydawg1234]

95. sorry, that was a bad assertion, but,

I think they would be a little more covert than to just blatantly park a black SUV in front of your house. Spying means being covert. Why a black SUV? why not a beat-up honda. That wouldn't arouse much suspicion. I mean the real spies arnen't stupid, I'm sure they have figured out that black SUVs and black helicopters are easily recognizable.

[rman]

98. The fact that they can't spy on all DU-ers does not mean

they can't spy on some DU-ers.

[meganmonkey]

112. And just because you're paranoid

doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you!! :crazy:

[lvx35]

103. 80,000 people didn't just write an article in a red area.

I got attention when I was part of an activist group that was getting press in the MSM. Its not paranoia when other people see it and report it to you, which happens often.

[lonestarnot]

105. Better place a bed of nails in front of the house.

[Vinca]

106. If the front of your house isn't a hot spot for cell phones, I might

be concerned. I put nothing past the current regime, including the stalking of chat board members.

[Jed Dilligan]

107. If you're in Florida

I recommend you just shoot the bastard dead, because it's legal now to do that if you feel threatened by someone.

[LuCifer]

110. OH DAMN!!! THAT'S RIGHT!

Gooooood call brutha!

I'll be sure to keep that in mind if any more scumbags spy on me, and I KNOW they have, because they are just so obvious about it.

Lu

[The Witch]

113. Please keep us updated.

Let us know what happens if/when it returns.

[Pam-Moby]

114. Will do. Nothing today.

[WilliamPitt]

116. There was a Diebold van

parked in front of my house in the spring of 2003. I was coming home from work. As I approached it, I saw a guy in the driver's seat wearing aviator sunglasses. He saw me walking towards the van and pulled away with a screech. It was interesting.

[Pam-Moby]

117. Will did anything else come of it?

We have not seen him here since thursday.