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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:00 PM
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Do you feel like you have lost your freedom?
I do. I hate what this country has become. I would rather die in a terrorist explosion than continue to live under these conditions. We are like frogs in a pot of water where the heat is gradually turned up. Oh cynical me! Things are not that bad! We just need to fight them and get the Democrats back in power, you say.

So, we get the Democrats back in power. The "war on terror" continues. The spying continues. The threats continue. The fear continues. Our wealth will continue to be spent on a war that is totally unnecessary. We can fight these "threats", and we do not deny that there are people that do not like us and want to kill us, but we can do it better and without giving up our freedoms.

I hate the chickenshit attitudes of Americans. What happened to the "home of the brave and free"? I don't need George Bush or the Democratic Party to protect me. I want my freedom back.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:01 PM
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1. YES
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:02 PM
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2. Not just my freedom,....
....but also my $. :cry: :nuke:
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:02 PM
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3. Definitely and
I especially hate the border issues which impact me on a fairly regular basis.
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BamaLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:03 PM
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4. Frustrated? Yes. Lost my freedom? No.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:04 PM
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5. Absolutely - With Bush's Declaration of Sovereignty Last Monday Morning
It was the moment he ascended to the throne.
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tiredoftherhetoric Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:05 PM
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6. Agree
So, who is to stand up and get the United States back on track with the Constitution? Income Tax - Unconstitutional, Public Schools - Unconstitutional, War on Terror - Unconstitutional, COngress relinquishing thier power to declare war to one person - Unconstitutional, The list goes on.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:06 PM
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7. I do too
There doesn't have to be fighting in the streets for us to have lost our freedom. Wiretapping with no warrant, investigating people for the books they take out of the library--what kind of banana republic is this?

:(

:scared:
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dusmcj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:09 PM
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8. not until someone keeps me from doing whatever legal activity I want.
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 12:14 PM by dusmcj
Or does it to my fellow citizens. Or legislates that something is illegal when that legislating curbs my inherent civil rights. You own your freedom, you hand it over at the point where you assess that the cost of exercising it will be higher than the benefit. YOU control your behavior, you choose to let someone else influence it.

Of course I understand the point - it's called chilling, just like when the usual suspects wanted to keep you from saying FUCK online (hell, half of DU would be prosecuted if that had passed ;)

So: let's start listing instances we're aware of where the prevailing conditions created by the administration shitmongers have caused people to curb their behavior. Of course this could be used as a 'successes' list by the usual suspects, but fuck them. So that we can make a point of not following suit.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:15 PM
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9. I Have To Say More
Bush has asserted he has the authority to take away is our 4th Amendment protection from unwarranted search and seizure.

If he can take away one of our rights he can take away any of our rights.

The only road to our freedom, indeed the only construct by which freedom can exist at all, is by way of our rights.

Our rights define our freedom and without definition that same freedom does not exist. When Bush assumed authority greater than your right any semblance of freedom for you vanished. It is as illusory as the memory of a duck.

Our Freedom can be won back, but only by retaking our rights and ridding ourselves of authoritarian thieves in the night.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:18 PM
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10. What bothers me

is that there's no creativity in the land. All the surplus in wealth (and then some) is going to the wealthiest, and they're wasting it all on socially nonproductive crap. Sheer, crude, parasitism.

Yeah, the f-ing Republican moral cowardice and inability to suffer is the really pathetic aspect of the present. It's hard not to be absolutely contemptuous of them 24/7, those midgets of the heart, the mind, and soul.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:19 PM
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11. Not yet. But "eternal vigilance is the price of liberty..." n/t
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:24 PM
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12. I'd like to see a little more caring about democracy at home
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 12:25 PM by Heaven and Earth
and a little less about democracy in Iraq. The American Revolution didn't win democracy for America once and for all.
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