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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 05:58 PM
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When Smart People Stoop to Repuke Tactics.
It is really sad that some long-time DUers feel that it is necessary to start threads with titles that are meant to deceive.

Of course I'm not referring to people like MoPaul, who serves this board well with his irony and humorous words and pictures.

But, the others...is it a longing for attention? A way to capture a flaming high post count?

Ocassionally I have seen folks attack Will Pitt saying that he wants to be a "guru of DU," saying he only wants to post in order to get that "rush" of huge response numbers from his worshippers. Frankly, I admire WP because not only is he a great writer, but he actually gets the word OUT to the public via radio and in print. I respect him for his ACTIONS as well as his words.

While I can respect smart people who play "Devil's Advocate" and try to get us liberals to hone our debating skills and help us gain the upper hand in this sound-bite world, some DUers seem to be just plain bitter.

Apparently their axe to grind is with us, all of us. Who hasn't been in a pointless argument with certain DUers every time they encounter that person?

The repuke tactics I refer to are: omissions by intent, nit-picking, inflating mistakes, using the politics of personal destruction, making vast assumptions based upon one interview and using testimony of axe-grinders to paint a picture that is not quite accurate.

Yep, I can be a cynical DU poster, but I hate to see constant bitterness in anyone's posts; especially when they seem to think they are just "reporting the facts."

Ripley


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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 05:59 PM
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1. Golly!
I thought I was the only one who noticed! ;-)
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:13 PM
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2. You are not alone!
But no one else notices huh?

Weird. This must be a masochistic site... :evilgrin:



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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:15 PM
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3. so this thread is really about Will Pitt?
why didn't you make that the title of the thread?
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:23 PM
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5. Ouch. You mean I can't mention his name?
without someone badgering him?

Jeezus.

This thread is in direct response to reading a thead (NOT posted by WP) recently.

So sue me.
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:18 PM
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4. I always try to put some 'hype' in my thread title
The new feature showing view counts is helpful

I used to think my title sucked and no one was looking at the body

Now I know for sure that people look and just don't see anything

worth responding to.

I don't do a good job of keeping track of DU names and their

post history except for a few who impress consistantly or rub

me the wrong way consistantly.

People do get paid to do Internet 'marketing' (propaganda)

Sorry for rambling
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:29 PM
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8. So, bait is bait huh?
I think the view counts and ratings are useless indicators of anything. They might indicate that a poster looks at his/her own thread a hundred times, and that a freeper thinks it is terrible..thus bad rating.

I know what you mean DUreader about DU names...I don't keep track of all...but some stand out, hence my post.

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LiberalLibra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:27 PM
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6. It is just an unfortunate fact of life that.........
.....not everyone thinks everything flowing from Will Pitts fingers is gospel. I don't agree with bashing him, or anyone else for that matter, but keep in mind that some of these people are freepers who lost their way.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:29 PM
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7. And don't forget out and out lies as yet another tactic used
It's very discouraging. There are a number of DUers who have fallen from my estimation permanently by some of their antics.

I actually can't stand it. It turns my stomach. It's bad enough we have to live with that from the other half of the political spectrum, but to encounter it here among "friends and allies" is almost too much to bear.

Eloriel
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:48 PM
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10. You know what I mean.
And whom I am referring to I gather? Isn't it funny how they start to attack WP in this thread alone???
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number9 Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:31 PM
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9. Sometimes the emotions can't be held in anymore
Edited on Thu Jul-17-03 06:32 PM by number9
remember what your mom and dad probably told you when you had to deal with the schoolyard bully? Go punch him in the nose and take your licks. At least the bastard won't pick on you anymore.

Two and one half years is a long time for anyone to hold back. There seems to be no other way to get the frustration out than posting it and hoping it doesn't turn too vitriolic.

edit: not calling any DU'er a bully. I'm looking at the bigger picture.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:49 PM
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11. I'm finding that "Ignore" is a handy function
for the very people to which you refer. Luckily, there aren't that many of them, they just have WAY too many personal issues that manifest themselves in "opposition" candidate threads over and over and over and over again. I mean, I don't mind a good debate but the same bullshit goober tactic gets old. If I wanted to read that shit I'd go to FreeRepublic.

Taz

P.S. My "colorful" language seems to be coming out today. Ah yes, one can take the woman out of the streets but one can never take the street out of the woman. B-)
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 07:05 PM
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12. See what I mean?
They don't realize that Dean's looks and personality are likable to them - he's one of them - but doesn't do much for black people, and doesn't do much for the white working class either.

The above is from another thread current. I guess accusing him of being a racist is now acceptable.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 07:37 PM
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13. Go ahead and accuse me of being racist
for that quote. I don't get it? But whatever.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:40 PM
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14. Attack Dean because whites like him.
Yep. Good strategy. Tell me about Sharpton's campaign, does anyone say hey, there's only blacks there?

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:48 PM
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15. A LOT OF POSTERS ARE JEALOUS OF WILLIAM
YES INDEED.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:55 PM
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16. Whaaa?
Edited on Thu Jul-17-03 10:30 PM by Ripley
do you mean Skittles?

I mean i'm having a hard time here keeping from freaking out, because my DAD an admitted registered republican told me tonight that Bush and buddies are going down fast...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh well, no one will notice this...
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 10:00 PM
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17. Yep
I'd say there are some people here who are in dire need of a hobby.
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qandnotq Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 10:04 PM
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18. i've never noticed this
i guess it's possible that i already have those you refer to on ignore for other sins.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 05:38 AM
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19. Yup, you got it, the moles and trolls come to play games, make
troubles.

But not to worry,
life will go on. the truth prevails in the end, Math will not be denied.
Come, we hunt for clams. make soup
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