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julka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 10:31 PM
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want to stop terror once and for all ? (title edited on demand)
Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 10:42 PM by julka
"There is no doubt that if we lived in a police state, it would be easier to catch terrorists. If we lived in a country where the police were allowed to search your home at any time for any reason; if we lived in a country where the government is entitled to open your mail, eavesdrop on your phone conversations, or intercept your e-mail communications; if we lived in a country where people could be held indefinitely based . . . on mere suspicion that they are up to no good, the government would probably discover and arrest more terrorists, or would-be terrorists.... But that wouldn't be a country in which we would want to live."
Senator Russ Feingold

some thread nannies we have here........
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julka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 10:35 PM
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1. only american lives count?
" Iraq's children were hardest hit, dying of malnutrition and easily preventable diseases at the rate of 5000 a month - the equivalent of a 9/11 disaster every 30 days."
Mark Zapezauer, Boomerang

will we ever know how many Iraqis have contributed their last, full measure in our crusa---I mean Holy W---I mean jih---search for Saddam/WMDs/Iraqi democracy
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julka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 10:36 PM
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2. former FBI spokesmodel Kevin Phillips
"What made the Gilded Age was not the individual scandals of the Reagan, Bush, or Clinton years... The new crux was the vast, relentless takeover of U.S. politics and policymaking by large donors to federal campaigns and propaganda organs. The S&L scandals showed the corruption in both parties ... Indeed, the eighties saw the financial sector take the lead in Washington lobbying outlays and in dollars provided to federal election campaigns. Both cemented a fast-returning relationship: politics was finance, and finance was politics, just as the men with diamond stickpins had said a century earlier."
Kevin Phillips
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 10:40 PM
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3. Please edit your subject line so it clearly describes the topic.
Thank you.

Skinner
DU Admin
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julka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 10:44 PM
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4. hmmmmmm
"A terrorist is someone who has a bomb but doesn't have an air force."
--William Blum, Rogue State
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julka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 10:45 PM
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5. who knew?
"The job of the President is to set the agenda and the job of the press is to follow the agenda that the leadership sets."
--Lawrence Grossman, longtime head of PBS and NBC News
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julka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 10:52 PM
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6. such a bright-sider
"What keeps most Americans from being shocked by the shredding of the Bill of Rights is that they have yet to feel the consequences, either personally or through someone close to them. It would appear, however, that they only have to wait."
--William Blum
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:02 PM
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7. What was the previous title?
More confusing?
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julka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:24 PM
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8. not any moreso than others.....see below for title
Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 11:33 PM by julka
"and the answer is.........."

just trying to pique interest.

getting late, time to go; can't type

meanwhile, long as I'm here:

"The point of public relations slogans like "Support our troops" is that they don't mean anything... That's the whole point of good propaganda. You want to create a slogan that nobody's going to be against, and everybody's going to be for. Nobody knows what it means, because it doesn't mean anything. Its crucial value is that it diverts your attention from a question that does mean something: Do you support our policy? That's the one you're not allowed to talk about."
--Noam Chomsky


alcuno.........also, did you hear WLS today on the radio, or computer?

I heard that guy talking about the CIA deaths in Afghan, and was very intrigued, as well. Wilson was online chatting Wednesday, day after it was first reported, I think. too bad nobody could ask him about that.......
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julka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:34 PM
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9. Time magazine's frontrunner: man of the year
"This is total war. We are fighting a variety of enemies. There are lots of them out there. All this talk about first we are going to do Afghanistan, then we will do Iraq, then we take a look around and see how things stand. This is entirely the wrong way to go about it... If we just let our vision of the world go forth, and we embrace it entirely, and we don't try to piece together clever diplomacy, but just wage a total war . . . our children will sing great songs about us years from now."

--Richard Perle-->about the U.S. "war on terrorism"
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:39 PM
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10. Does Russ know that this is exactly the country we live in now
Everything he describes is accurate current police powers of US
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julka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:49 PM
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11. that's actually a good question......
why? cause he hasn't said squat about anything lately; least, that I've heard

.....even though he was the ONLY senator to vote against the original Enabling, I mean PATRIOT Act (caps for acronym)
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