NY shooting-dumb dumb dumb

[trof]

The shooter and the shootee BOTH can bypass the security magnetometer?
How stupid is that?
If one person can bypass security, THEN THERE IS NO SECURITY.

I can't believe that idiot Bloomberg just said that he and council members bypass security "just like airline stewardesses and pilots do".

THEY DON'T!
And yes we bitched about it, but ALL crewmembers have been going through security, right along with passengers, for the last 10 or 15 years.
Where the f*ck has HE been? Riding on private jets?


:argh: :nuke:

[slackmaster]

1. George Orwell had it right in Animal Farm

All animals are equal. But some animals are more equal than others.

[Township75]

2. And to some the solution will be more gun control...

not enforcing laws and security measures that are in place and could have prevented this.

I dream of a day when the politicians must live by the laws they have created. The previous poster was correct with the Animal Farm analogy.

[northzax]

3. you know in Richmond

if you have a CCW permit, you bypass security at the State House. can't let the cops know you actually have a gun and where you carry it, you know.

[Brian Sweat]

4. You can carry a weapon into the State House in Virginia?

That's idiotic. Do they let you take them into court rooms too?

[bicentennial_baby]

5. ?

How does that work? Here in MA, I have a CCP and I cannot carry in ANY State or Federal bldg, including Court Houses, Post Offices, Public schools, etc. What reason does a person have to take a gun to court?

[Bandit]

7. But aren't you just terrified for your life at all times?

Why else carry a gun period.

[bicentennial_baby]

10. Uh no

The reason I originally got my CCP was because my life was very much in danger and the system failed me miserably. I don't carry a piece around, but some people do. If they do so responsibly, it's their decision to do so, imho.

[Township75]

9. It depends on the state.

I think it is great! The politicians have to live by the same rules as the comman man. I bet a crap load of anti gunner politicians started packing heat once they learned that anyone with a CCW can carry into where they work.

[Township75]

8. How many shootings have they had there?

?

[trof]

6. A "security" story

10 or 15 years ago, airline crews could just show their ID, and bypass the line.
That worked fine, everybody was happy, and there were NO hijackings by crewmembers...duh.
Then an airline employee at an airport, NOT a crewmember, was fired.
The next day he showed up at security, with NO badge, and the friendly security guards waved him through. They KNEW him, so it was OK.

He walked on an airplane. The gate agents KNEW him, just didn't know he had been fired. After the airplane got airborne he asked to say "Hi" to the pilots. Well, the flight attendants KNEW him and opened the cockpit door. He shot the pilots, the plane crashed, no survivors. Shortly thereafter we all had to go through security like everybody else. I did complain because the "breakdown" in security was that no one asked him for his ID, although everyone knew that it should have been "displayed on his person, on an outer garment in a readily visual manner, with NO exceptions" to quote the reg.

So, because a few people didn't do their jobs, a little extra inconvenience got laid on all of us employees. Think about it. If you can't trust your pilot not to hijack and crash your airplane, who you gonna trust? I don't even NEED a weapon. I can just drive the damn thing into the tower, and that's that.

Anyway, I got over it. And that's why I say if ONE person is exempt, then there is no security. Period.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

11. LOL Trof, the answer would most likely be YES

Riding in private jets.

[Rose Siding]

12. Trof, write the NYT

Your point is excellent. I missed that press conf and I bet many who saw it won't realize the MEGA ELITIST slippage.

[trof]

14. Not a bad idea.

Thanks.

[OrdinaryTa]

13. Dan White, San Francisco Assassin

Homophobic Dan White, feeling depressed, resigned his seat on the Board of Supervisors. A week later, feeling he had made a mistake, tried to convince Mayor George Moscone to reinstate him. No way! Moscone might have said something to the effect that gay Supervisor Harvey Milk would lead a revolt.

White, a retired police officer, bypassed building security just as today's assassin did. He went straight to Moscone's office and shot him dead. Then he went down the hall to Harvey Milk's office and shot him dead, too.