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funkyflathead Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:06 AM
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Vote for Newsom DEMOCRATS
SF mayor- DEMOCRATIC candidate!

Why would you vote for another party if you are a DEMOCRAT?

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:09 AM
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1. SF Mayor
If Gonzalez wins that's one thing, but I will pissed as hell if he works to deliver votes to the Green presidential nominee and throws California to Bush.
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AmericanLiberal Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:10 AM
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3. California...?
California is really worrying me. In the last election, if you add up Schwarzenegger's votes and McClintock's votes, that's a 64% landslide. Those Texas electricity manipulators must have been laughing their pants off.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:22 AM
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19. What should really be worrying you is that our votes weren't even counted
before Ceasar was crowned in California.

It is common for us to vote in private homes, schools, libraries etc using paper ballots.

I had barely cast my vote (last minutes as always) when I turned on the radio less than 5 minutes after casting my vote to hear that Arnold had won.

Things that make you go hmmmmmm!

Flashback to 2000

----

<snip>

Yes. Something very strange happened in Volusia County on election night November 2000, the night that first Gore won Florida, then Bush, and then as everybody can so well remember there was a tie.

Something strange indeed. But what exactly? In the above report ( click for full version), written days after the election, hotshot Washington Post reporter Dana Milbank goes on to attribute the strange 16,022 negative vote tally from Volusia's precinct 216 to an apparently innocent cause.

"…. faulty 'memory cards' in the machines caused the 16,000-vote disappearance on election night. The glitch was soon fixed," he wrote.

But thanks to recent investigations into Black Box Voting by Washington State writer Bev Harris we now know this explanation is not correct. In fact it is not even in the ballpark.

<snip>

In Chapter 11 of her new book "Black Box Voting In the 21st Century" released early today in .PDF format at Blackboxvoting.com and here at Scoop Ms Harris observes.
((Bev Harris is a DUer for those of you who don't know))

"If you strip away the partisan rancor over the 2000 election, you are left with the undeniable fact that a presidential candidate conceded the election to his opponent based on a second card that mysteriously appears, subtracts 16,022 votes, then just as mysteriously disappears."

<snip>

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0310/S00211.htm
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:12 AM
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5. It isn't all about D's and R's
especially in this confusing day in age.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:16 AM
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9. Unfortunately we will only have ourselves to blame if that happens

Newsom is Bush-lite through and through- right down to the compassionate conservatism that wants to put the homeless on a barge and hand everything over to the wealthy.

Instead of rushing to defend and stand by this grotesque facsimile of a Democrat, Gore and the others should have been demanding Newsom be replaced with a REAL Democrat.

The Democratic party has failed miserably on this one.

Gonzalez, by the way, if this means anything, is a Kucinich supporter who does not believe the Greens should run anyone if a Progressive Dem wins the Primaries.

He was a Progressive Dem until recently but the Dems pushed him out because he was too populist.

Sad times for the Democratic Party.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:19 AM
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13. Gonzalez supports Dennis, thanks I didnt know that
If he becomes mayor, we get something going with the mayor of a large California city. He also seems like a good guy. Now I dont talk about endorsing things like this but I will as I have planned to go with Gonzalez.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:09 AM
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2. Because we're too smart to vote for a Republican
parading as a Democrat.

It's that simple.

DINOS OUT!
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:22 AM
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18. DINOs Out Greens In -> 2.7%
Let's try a different tact, not all non-green Dem's are DINO's.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:11 AM
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4. Well...
Edited on Wed Dec-03-03 01:16 AM by FDRrocks
I am not in San Francisco... but I know the area is liberal. And some liberals think the Democrats are liberal. Maybe that is why they vote for him.

Vote Gonzalez. Brown was bad and Republicans are worse... and the liberal can win. Period.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:17 AM
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10. I lived in SF
for twenty years and still have many friends there. The last thing the City by the Bay needs is a corporate lovin DINO.

Vote Gonzales!
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Outvoicer Donating Member (667 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:12 AM
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6. Because the Democrats are turning me off?
Newsom has lost my vote.

Gonzalez is so much more comfortable just being himself... and he truly represents progressives like myself.

i'm voting Green to send the Democratic Party a much-needed WAKE UP CALL!

Mayor Willie Brown disgusted me with his accusations of racism against Gonzalez.

Newsom's camps pissed me off with their fake "Green Party Anti-Gore" memo.

They aren't winning me over by being scummy and false, that's for darn sure.

When the local Democrats make me feel like they actually care about the issues I care about, and will actually do something about them...

I'll return to voting for them.

But nobody, Dem/Rep/Green/Lib/etc. automatically gets my votes just because.

Dems have gotta earn it... and they've gotta make some changes.

I'm sick of the status quo.

Gonzalez is my choice for mayor of SF and I am voting for him on Dec. 9th.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:18 AM
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11. Right friggin on dude...
If I wasn't planning to move to Canada I'd be right there with you. Voting for the person that best represents your view is the essence of Democracy... not voting for the lesser of two evils.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:13 AM
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7. Would someone please help me...
Why, specifically, is Newsom a Republican? What actions, votes, stands, allegiances make you call him an enemy?

I'm not challenging anyone. I honestly don't know why he is so detested.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:14 AM
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8. Sorry, dude, you can vote for the Ken-doll-come-to-life.
I'll be voting for the better candidate, by far.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:18 AM
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12. Former Democrat Gonzalez had to become Green so that he could
stop faux-Democrats like Newsom from taking the reigns of power.

Gonzalez has the same heart he had when he was a registered Democrat. But that heart can now be in the body of a mayor because he went Green.

If he hadn't you'd be looking at mayor Newsom right now.
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funkyflathead Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:19 AM
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15. That Gonzalez guy is a traitor
just like that pig in NYC Bloomberg.

He abandonded the party.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:20 AM
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17. How can you be serious?
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:19 AM
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14. How many threads advertising a repub-lite do we need?
I mean, seriously, there's got to be at least three in GD right now.
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