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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:18 PM
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anybody beleive their candidate ISN'T the most electable?
Edited on Fri Dec-12-03 11:03 PM by Bombtrack
In a general election of course

this exludes Kucinich supporters

I personally think that Edwards has the best ideas and platform, but I first of all don't think he as as good a chance as Clark to win the primary, until I see better polling from him in places other than SC.

And I think a good case can be made that an Arkansas/Louisiana takeback strategy is easier than a an NC/Georgia one, in a general election.
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ryharrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:20 PM
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1. I'm pretty sure Dean is the most electable.
With Clark and Edwards the only others with a good chance. And yes, I'm a Dean supporter. I think it'd make little sense for one to back someone they didn't find electable in this crucial election.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:22 PM
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2. and I asked just the opposite
First of all I think your opinion is a rediculous one, and second I don't need people clogging up this thread with unneeded responses
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ryharrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 11:50 PM
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16. Huh? Unneeded?
I was just answering your question- No, I don't think there is a candidate that is more electable than mine. And what opinion do you think is ridiculous- that it doesn't make sense to support candidates that isn't the most electable, or that Dean is the most electable? From your history I imagine its the second one.
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Crowdance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:27 PM
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3. Me. I think Clark is more electable than my guy, Dean.
But Clark is an absolute unknown to me. He has no record, and I instrinsically distrust military folks. I'm willing to work my considerable ass off to increase Dean's electability.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:32 PM
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4. at least you admit your prejuduce
I think it's unrelentingly wrong but I don't know if I'd be able to change your mind
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BertrandL Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:33 PM
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5. Me, too
I think Dean and Clark are more electable than my guy, Kerry.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 07:42 AM
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22. Hi BertrandL!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:43 PM
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6. I am looking at a Dean/Clark ticket. I feel it's a winner.
They complement each other so well.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:45 PM
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7. Clark might be more electable
then Kerry. The General will be hard for freepers to beat up on and he's got that Southern thang going on. But Kerry has domestic experience that Clark gets a little hesitant on at times. So I don't know.
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rickin Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:49 PM
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9. you don't trust American generals? And you trust politicians instead?
General Wesley Clark, you can't trust him? That is the oddest thing I have ever heard. How do you trust politicians over NATO supreme allied commanders?

Clark or Kerry in '04
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 11:25 PM
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13. To me??
This is to me? Or it got under the wrong name? I trust Clark, didn't say I didn't.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:47 PM
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8. Why does it exclude DK supporters?
Please explain.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:49 PM
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10. "there" should be "their"
There is still time to correct it.
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tsipple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 11:19 PM
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11. Actually, Dean Is the Only Electable Democrat
We've only now witnessed what GOP stooges will do, running countless TV ads against the eventual Democratic nominee.

Dean stands alone as the only Democrat with the funding and without spending cap restrictions in being able to fight the air war.

I think that's huge. As this latest Osama Bin Laden ad demonstrates so well.
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BertrandL Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 11:22 PM
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12. I don't buy this argument
I'm holding all campaign contributions until a candidate is chosen. If this is your worry, I encourage you to do the same. Also, there must be some way for Dean to slush his money into someone else's campaign if he loses the nomination.
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tsipple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 11:56 PM
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18. Nope
There are 527s (independent committees), to be sure, but there are big problems countering the Bush ad blitz when handicapped by spending limits. For one thing, the 527s can't coordinate.

Plus it's clear the general election campaign has already begun, at least from Bush's perspective.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 11:29 PM
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15. Better now, than later
This is minor compared to what they do next year. Somebody earlier jokingly mentioned an ad with Dean taking Osama and Saddam skiing. I'm sure you saw the startribune letter. And the post about Dean's tax hikes and socialist Vermont. We've been trying to tell you Dean has ALOT of problems in the general election. If you're mad about this, just wait until next year. If he can figure out how to put up a real opposition to all of this, then maybe he's the best candidate.
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ryharrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 11:54 PM
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17. That's the point. He HAS been able to put up a real opposition to all of
that. Name one attack that has seriously hurt Dean? Which of the dozens of "campaign ending mistakes" have ended his campaign? He gets attacked by the RNC in an ad, bam- he raises $500,000 to run an ad to counter it. He doesn't let things go by without taking them on.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 12:01 AM
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20. It's barely begun
Barely. The ads being putting up now are NOTHING compared with what will happen next year. Neither has the so-called "bashing". The only reason Dean has gotten as far as he has is his willingness to lie and say any dirty thing that Trippi thinks will sell. The others have actually been quite restrained considering, knowing that you just can't scorch the entire Democratic Party and expect to win next year.
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tsipple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 11:58 PM
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19. Real Opposition
If he can figure out how to put up a real opposition to all of this, then maybe he's the best candidate.

Tons of crap thrown at him, and he keeps climbing in the polls and building momentum. The signs are excellent.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 12:02 AM
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21. The tons are just starting
What he's had so far are just pebbles.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 11:26 PM
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14. Since I have no candidate at this time... does that qualify? "No
Edited on Fri Dec-12-03 11:26 PM by salin
candidate".. better not be the option that is the most electable! ;-)
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 08:27 AM
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23. I'm confused. Your statement about Edwards says you
don't think he can beat Clark in the primary, but you're asking about the general.

To answer about the general we have to assume our candidate wins the primary. So if Edwards did, do you think he's the most electable in the general?

I have 3 candidates, with Kerry being my top. This is how I see electability in the general:

Clark
Kerry
Edwards
Gephardt
Lieberman
Dean
Sharpton
Kucinich
Mosely-Braun

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