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Code_Name_D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 06:58 PM
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How Dean can beat the McGovern Curse.
How Dean can beat the McGovern Curse.

Finding Courage In Ourselves

This is pre-eminently the time to speak the truth, the whole truth, frankly and boldly. Nor need we shrink from honestly facing conditions in our country today. This great nation will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper. So first of all let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear. . .is fear itself. . . nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance. FDR's inaugural speech, given March 4th, 1993

Indeed, the fear I see in the eyes of my countrymen is so pervasive as to be consuming. The fear of losing one's job. The fear of a child falling ill with appendicitis and wondering if the insurance will pay for it. Fear of terrorism, that it will lash out at any time, forcing us to face our very fear of death. For those who read this, fear that Bush will win in 2004, or fear of "stealth candidates" who have secret allegiance within the neo-cons.

But most of all, this fear I see is nameless and unreasoned. And FDR's declaration of what he believes, suddenly becomes that of prophecy. It is fear that splits the Democratic party. While one side believe that we must fight with our best, and our all, the other feels that we must win by concession, to bargain with an enemy that will not compromise.

There are two ways to combat fear; knowledge and hope. For knowledge is the means to power, and power in the hands of the wise, is the means to hope. And knowledge that always comes from the facts, and from the truth.

The "New Democrats" fear that truth. Probably even more so than neo-cons. The Republicans spin a yawn a mile long on how Saddam Husane was responsible for 9-11, and how he threatens America with Weapons of Mass Distraction. And the Democrats, so fearful of being painted as unpatriotic, do more than toe the line, but embraces it as the truth. And counties to do so, long after the party line has been revealed for the lie it is.

It never ceases to amaze me to watch even Clark supporters, defenders of the ever vaunted General, repeat this vary lie, and have even made this lie a foundation in Clark's platform. "Only a general, can take on Bush's war on terror" they tell us. "Only a general can challenge Bush's defense strategy. Do you want us to be attacked again, like we were on September 11th?"

But the truth that we need not shrink from, is the fact that we always create our own monsters. Osama and Saddam were dictators of our making, former heroes who were once hailed as champions of democracy, freedom, and American way of life. And this is quite long actually. We are told that we can not pull our of Iraq because if we do, some one worse than Saddam will take over. But we erected Saddam in the first place. How can we know that the person we pick to take Saddam's place will not be worse still? And so long as nothing changed, this possibility becomes a virtual certainty, for the neo-cons depend on war, death, and destruction to maintain there own power.

The Clark supporters then tell us as if it were fact that "no president has ever been defeated in a time of war." Again, surrendering to the fear fostered onto us by the Rove machines. For this is a war that the neo-cons started, fully aware of this very "fact."

For Dean, the vary first thing he can do, is to attack the fear in America, by arming its citizens with knowledge and power. And perhaps it is because he has been doing both, that he has gained so much attention. And I feel that it is for this exact reason, that he is now our front runner. Consider Deen's "southern strategy." He is trying to appeal to white conservatives, now by bowing to racism and the confederate flag as some have charged. But because he wants to tell them why they are poor. He wants to tell them why their factories are all now closed. He wants to explain to them why is it that despite all of Bush's tax cuts, they are now no closer to making ends meet than before.

The Dean detractors have charged the question, "what if some one shows up to your rally with a Confederate Flag." But that is there own nameless unreasoned fear taking control. Sense then, the confederate flag has indeed been flow an Dean rallies, but the African American community has not been frightened away. And for the first time in a generation, hope has come to the deep South that perhaps at long last, they may finally heal the bleeding wounds that slavery has left behind. For indeed, this is preciously the fear of many racists, fear that the "blacks" shall take there jobs.

Dean has forced them to poke the monster, and to see that it is hollow. While pointing at the distant shadow working against them. A far more powerful southern strategy I think that simply being a "four star southerner."

But is it enough to brake the McGovern Curse? Alas, it is not. All though I firmly do believe that the curse holds no power over him. To win, Dean must to more than just escape the implications of the curse. He must confront it, and slay it.

ABB Any But Bush

The Clark supporters start out with a noble position, to defeat Bush in the 2004 election. And certainly, this approach appeals to the common senses of most folks. Unfortunately, common senses tend to betray the common man. Especially when it is used against him by the cunning con artist.

The fact is that W. Bush is just a figure head. A puppet where the strings are poorly hidden. W. follows along the same lines of Ronald Ragan, Dan Quail, and Arnold Swartinager. Men who frankly don't have the brains to count there own fingers, let along govern. They have only been given the hat of power, and told to strut around in public. But those hats come and go, and the power they bring is always very temporary. This would never do to the true megalomaniac.

The real rains of power can be found in those who keep popping up from the Republican ranks to fill the seats of power, over and over and over again. Is it a mer coincidence that much of W's cabinet have ties as far back as Nixon? Every time the Republicans win an election, the same faces pop up over and over again.. But even in defeat, these persons are never truly vanquished. They just move into the corporate board rooms, partisan office, or talk show studios. And bide the years until once again a Republican is elected, and again, return to power.

Consider this. In 1992, Bill Clinton defeated Herbert Walker Bush, taking over the white house. And yet how swiftly the war in Iraq was resumed, once Clinton was forced to step down because of term limits, eight years later. Within the vary first few months of power, W's first acts as president was to undo much of Clinton's legacy. A deconstruction that would become more through in time. Today, despite Clinton's eight unquestionably successful years in office. It is as if he never existed at all. If our efforts to defeat W in 2004 are so vital, they why did we ever election Clinton? The warning of history goes unheeded.

And what about the Democratic Senate? How soon we forget that Jim Jeffords defection rested control of the Senate from the Republicans. It was nothing short of a miracle. But it proved to be a hollow miracle. The Dems, dispute there majority, did not challenge the neo-cons. Not even ONCE! I am told that it is absolutely vital that we retake the Senate. But when we DID have control, we did nothing with that power. Why am I to believe retaking it will result with any thing different? Especially if the same people are running it as before?

The plain and simple fact is that this in order for us to take on the Republicans, we must first defeat there first line of defense, the DLC & DNC. Victory is pointless, is you do nothing with the power you win. And as the middle eastern saying goes, the army of lambs, lead by the lion, shall defeat an army of lions, lead by a lamb.

A thousand Front war

On to some more specific suggestions for Dean and the meet ups. I felt compelled to cover the issues of fear, and of the ABB arguments, for they are central to our offense. Not just against the Republicans in the general election, but against the DLC in the primary, and following. And as I have said, simple victory is not enough. Dean must do more than win an election, he must challenge the power held by the GOP. The two are not the same.

So we come to the heart of my strategy. And ironically, it has less to do with Dean, and more to do with the meet ups. First off, the meet ups need to target every seat within government. Not just the ones held by Republicans, but the ones held by republican light Democrats as well. And time is running out to challenge the later as the only way we can defeat them, is through the primary process. And to do this, each Dean meet up needs to look to there own districts. Many of these republican light democrats run unopposed. It may only take the existence of a challenger, to defeat them. If a republican light Dem is not opposed, than some one from the Dean meet up needs to step forward, and fill out the paper work to run. The meet ups themselves must then pound the pavement to solicit the needed signatures to get them on the ballot. Rather than just supporting Dean, you should be supporting a catalog of candidates.

Even if only a few should win, the victory here would be monumental. But there is more here than just local candidates trying to run on Dean's coat tails. The process can be reversed as well, and let Dean run on the coat tails of the local candidate.

I am running for office. And I Speak for Dean!

Deans most powerful weapon, is the truth itself, and the facts behind it. Indeed, Dean doesn’t have to attack the neo-cons as much as simply educate the people on the neo-con's record. Unfortunately, the only real tool in doing is this, is the vary tool that will attack him relentlessly. The so called "liberal media." The very channels Dean needs to educate the people, is the vary thing that will distort and attack him relentlessly, 24 / 7 / 366. The Internet has made a different, but it still can not reach the vary people that Dean needs to reach, the poor.

But there is another problem. Local officials do not have a great deal of power. Truly there is little that a county commissioner, a state level representative, or even a governor can do to addresses the hard pressing issues that we face. So we tend to ignore those things and focus only on the things we can change.

But where the two shall fail separately, together, can become a formidable force. For the local official can educate the common people where the national party can not.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 07:11 PM
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1. thanks!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 07:13 PM
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2. Dean is Grreat at "confronting and slaying"
whatever tries to hold him back! Thanks for all your work on this and other writings, Code D!
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Code_Name_D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 07:16 PM
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3. My point is that this isn't just about Dean.
No one man can take back the contry for us. We must ALL play a role in this. Me must take the fight to all levels. That includes the school board.
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tsipple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 07:23 PM
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4. What "McGovern Curse"?
Jimmy Carter slayed that in 1976.

If that wasn't enough, Bill Clinton won in 1992 and 1996.

So did Al Gore. It took a Supreme Court in a one-off political opinion to get Bush into the White House.
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Code_Name_D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 08:30 PM
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6. There is more than one kind of curse.
The McGovern curse is not a relic from history, as much as it a curse handed down to us by the corperate powers. Remeber, we are looking through the looking glass. And what we think we see, is not the truth. Most Americans do not remeber the Clintion miriciel, and most folks think Gore lost the election, and that the courts had nothing to do with it.

But the McGovern curse has more to do with the preception that the truth can not win. So we have to run on some kind of moderated lie. This is the position of the centrist.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 07:41 PM
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5. Outstanding essay.
Edited on Sat Dec-13-03 07:45 PM by ozone_man
Let the Dean revolution continue. There is so much here that I agree with. Keep up the good fight and let Democracy prevail.

On edit: Like the previous poster, Dean is no McGovern. Aside from that, it's prefect.
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Code_Name_D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 09:26 PM
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7. Up! Up! Fly! Fly!
Fly away, baby bird.

-plumet-
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 10:24 PM
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8. Masterful
Thanks. I'm podting a link to the blog. I hope you'll post the essay or link to the blog too, later or perhaps tomorrow.
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Code_Name_D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 04:32 PM
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9. The capture of Saddam, an example of fear designed to halt us.
Dean's campain was gaining stringth and momentum. But with the resend capture of Saddam, we can see just how easly that momentum can stumble. But only becase we hesitate, and lose faith in ourselves.

The fact is that Saddam's capture changes nothing about the Bush campain, or the problems that America faces. Finding Saddam, dose not fine an American a singel job. And in regards to Iraq policy, nothing has changed here as well. Dean had never supported Saddam. And why should he. It is still a fact that he was a tirent.

So if nothing has changed, than why should Dean stumble when Bush tries to change the subject? It is the lack of our own confdence in the facts that betrayes us. Not Bush's latest mediea row.

And indeed, the savy would turn a preceved weakness, into a real stringth. Soon, Saddam's trial shall soon begin. And as another DUer, SpiralHawk, pointed out. Now is the perfict time to educate the people about the true issues at hand. Here is a cut and past from his post, and a lot of linkgs.

Please spend a few minutes to learn how George Bush and his Administration failed to defend America on 9/11 -- and are now working overtime on a full-scale coverup.

it's your America, too. Do not sacrifice true freedom and democracy for the poisoned rhetoric of the neo-cons. Find out the facts.

Here's some good starting points, from one of today's DU threads.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=901633


Newsweek Cover Story - Some Damning Snippets
rmpalmer -- 05/19/2002
"early spring" confrontation between Ashcroft and Freeh -- Freeh wanted to focus on counterterrorism; Ashcroft wouldn't hear of it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=23844&forum=DCForumID35&archive=
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Finally: The nameof the guy who offered John O'Neill WTC-job!!
ewing2001 -- 05/28/2002
name of guy who found O'Neill his job at WTC.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=25318&forum=DCForumID35&archive=
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The video that will lead to Bush's impeachment
Scotsman -- 05/29/2002
11/2001 -- Palast report on BBC (link + mirror site + transcript). Great
reference thread.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=25337&forum=DCForumID35&archive=

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WE DID IT!!! Bush Knew rally!
AngryWhiteDemocrat -- 09/12/2002
"Bush Knew" : overview of links/excerpts
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=4320&forum=DCForumID60&archive=

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Source: Hijackers Scouted San Diego
kainah -- 08/21/2002
report : 9/11 hijackers scouted San Diego port (8/21/02)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=433&forum=DCForumID61&archive=
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Agency planned exercise on 9/11 of a plane crashing into a building
NNN0LHI -- 08/21/2002
9/11/01 : NRO (CIA/DoD) was running airplane-crashes-into-our-building drill while hijackings were taking place. One poster claims Cheney was also involved. Well-sourced, aside from Cheney claim.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=486&forum=DCForumID61&archive=

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9/11 plan: Fly fighters into airliners
rmpalmer -- 08/31/2002
only 14 planes allegedly guarding US airspace on 9/11, commanders considered "using airplanes as missiles"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=1136&forum=DCForumID61&archive=

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Follow the FISA!!! (remember the call????) It's baaaack!
skip fox -- 08/28/2002
FISA : skip_fox's excellent list of sources (Moussaoui case + FISA in general). 8/28/02
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=6437&forum=DCForumID38&archive=

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Follow the FISA, pt. 1 . . . New Information + the entire file
skip fox -- 09/24/2002
FISA : skip fox's (updated) resources-list (9/24/02)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=7103&forum=DCForumID38&archive=
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FBI Warned of Flight Training Before 11th
kskiska -- 05/03/2002
WP story (5/3/02) on FBI requesting investigations of "Middle Easterners" requesting visas for flight training in July of 2001.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=21233&forum=DCForumID5&archive=

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CBS NEWS: Bush KNEW in Advance about 9/11
JCMach1 -- 05/15/2002
Bush & Co. finally admit they had advance warning of hijacking by OBL (thread #1)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=21661&forum=DCForumID5&archive=
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CNN NEWS: Bush Knew in advance about 9/11
Clovis_Sangrail -- 05/16/2002
Bush & Co. finally admit they had advance warning of hijacking by OBL (thread #2)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=21667&forum=DCForumID5&archive=

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Justice Clarifies Ashcroft Threat (His flying plans)
khephra -- 05/17/2002
Ashcroft story : DoJ "revises" 7/26 report, pushes date back for Ashcroft's "no commercial flights" policy back to May, 2001. Thread includes excerpts/link for Ari Fleischer's 5/16/02 WH press conference, in which he "coincidentally" also pushes date for major terrorism warnings back to exactly the same date : May 2001.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=21732&forum=DCForumID5&archive=
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Drudge: NY Times Breaking Story
kskiska -- 05/21/2002
NY Times story claims that Paul O'Neill (killed in WTC) *received a copy of the Phoenix Memo just before he resigned from the FBI*.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=22033&forum=DCForumID5&archive=

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FBI Slowed Moussaoui Probe, Field Office Says
NNN0LHI -- 05/24/2002
Lots of great links : FBI agents claim "roadblock". Also : CIA knew BEFORE 8/6 Crawford briefing
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=22337&forum=DCForumID5&archive=
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Finger of blame points directly at the FBI for ignoring warnings that might have averted 11 Septembe
NNN0LHI -- 05/24/2002
links, excerpts (CIA, Treasury Dept. foreknowledge) (May 23-24, 2002)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=22423&forum=DCForumID5&archive=
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Breaking: DOJ loses 911 evidence control attempt
ewing2001 -- 07/15/2002
9/11 widow's civil suit : DoJ loses motion to control access to evidence, discovery temporarily stayed until Sept. 20 (on DoJ motion). As of Sept. 20, discovery will begin.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=25612&forum=DCForumID5&archive=
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Ashcroft won't single out Seattle as terrorist target (Seattle P-I)
Mike Niendorff -- 07/26/2002
Ashcroft refuses to answer Maria Cantwell's question as to whether Seattle harbors a "terrorist sleeper cell", dodging instead onto veiled smears about people who "endorse the Al Queda agenda" but haven't "specifically sworn to participate" (McCarthy lives on ...). Seattle P-I, 7/26/02

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=26442&forum=DCForumID5&archive=
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French expand on Moussaoui's travel, likely role (re : FISA, Rowley memo)
Mike Niendorff -- 07/28/2002
Moussaoui FISA : French intelligence told US in August 2001 that Moussaoui was a MEMBER of Al Qaeda. This has *major* implications regarding the Moussaoui FISA issue.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=26572&forum=DCForumID5&archive=



With the tiral about to begin, we should begin that trial in ernist in the eyes of the public oppinion. How did Saddam rise to power? Becase we supported him against Iran. How did Saddam aquire his bio and cemical weponds? Becase we sold it to him using "agracultral credits." And sudnly, Bush finds that Saddam's trial is not presenting the boost he would have hoped for.

We need to remeber that Saddam did do bad things. Only that he did them with US backing. Stick to the facts, and the truth shall avail us.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 04:37 PM
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10. You all read the Bill Press column, I am sure....
well read it...then read the letter I sent him.......
http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/democrat/news/opinion/7479063.htm

Dear Mr. Press,
In your column entitled , Attempts to 'McGovernize' Howard Dean won't work, you sound mildly defensive. Howard Dean is no McGovern, but the result of this election, if Dean is the nominee, will be the same as it was then; Howard Dean will lose.

It is an established fact, whether you believe it or not, that Republicans donors have been contributing to Howard Dean since March of this year. Original reason was to keep Kerry off as the top contender. When General Clark entered the race, the GOP's generosity continued for Dean to counter Clark (You can verify that via www.polipundit.com see details below my signature). That Right Wing site is only a of several dozens that have links within their own text directly to the Dean contribution page. They have now switch their game plan and are attacking Howard Dean. They hope that the left will coalesce around Dean in his defense and make his followers ever more loyal.

The egg of money, became the chicken of Media attention (note chicken and egg being interchangeable) Dean's campaign energized by money became respected by the media. The media, played their part, and started publicizing everything Dean. Whether Howard Dean is made of Teflon, or the Cocoon media is giving him a pass (my theory) is a question. However, it does seem odd that sealed records, draft dodging accusation, Enron connections, his own acknowledgement that he did indeed support "a" war resolution, the issues raised on his Medicare stance, his agreement to ship nuclear waste to be buried in minority communities in Texas (and a lousy environmental record), his flip flop on public financing; none of these issues were truly jumped on by the media (I won't even mention the confederate flag issue), but rather he has being given a pass. He wins the debate when he clearly does not win debates (reminds me of another recent candidate). Howard Dean's statement at the last debate that's "it's ok to lie to the American People under reasons of National Security" were not even brought up, let along discussed by the any in the media.

Why is it so evident that Howard Dean is being forced on the Democratic party? You must know the answer to why, so please answer that one for me. The man has been running for 2 years, and the most that he polls is 25% (after the money, and publicity and the endorsements). That's 75% of Democrats who don't see Dean as a winner, and does not include Independents. He will not help any members of congress running in the South, and he has no foreign policy experience, gravitas or charisma. Heck, he doesn't even look presidential at 5'7" and has no neck to speak of. He speech is fast and he stumbles through much of what he is saying, until he gets to his canned Tony Robbins mantra of "you've got the power". His following is supposed to be "college educated", but I am starting to rather doubt that they have done their homework. They have all forgotten to read the chapter on winning a General Election.

I note, as I have watched you on television that your own bias has come through loud and clear. It's unfortunate that you would try so hard to dispel the subject myth in your article, when you have ever bother to talk up any other Democratic candidate.

Admit that you are on the Dean bandwagon, Mr. Press, and like the rest of your crew, backing a loser and heading over a cliff. You may not have heard what Hillary said, but it's not the pundits that pick our candidates, it's the people. That would mean sir, that Democrats should not be paying attention to you.

Dr. Dean wants to take America back, but most Americans want to take our country forward. At the end it will not matter, as you see, Howard Dean will not win. I'm a Democrat and even I know that.
Respectfully,

Here is the post from www.polipundit.com:
Give, Give, Give

To everyone who took up my call to donate to Howard Dean in June, here's your new assignment: Give all you can to John Edwards and/or John Kerry.

The rationale is simple:
1. We still want Dean to be the nominee so that President Bush can crush him and have long coattails.
2. The biggest threat to a Dean nomination is no longer Dick Gephardt, John Kerry or John Edwards. It's Weasel Clark, for all the reasons outlined below.
3. To help Dean, we have to bring down Clark's vote totals in the crucial states of New Hampshire and South Carolina.
4. In New Hampshire, donating to neighbouring-son John Kerry will help ensure that Clark won't surpass expectations by finishing ahead of Kerry.
5. In South Carolina, Clark can be stopped by neighbouring-son John Edwards.

Donating online is easy. Just click here to donate to Kerry or click here to donate to Edwards.
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