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fishguy Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 06:22 PM
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This why alot of people don't like PETA
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/12/25/peta.billboard.reut/index.html

Why does PETA continuously make such stupid PR blunders?
People would take PETA more seriously if PETA would start acting more serious.
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1a2b3c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 06:24 PM
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1. I choose to support conservation groups
rather than PETA.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 06:38 PM
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3. Wise choice
I was hoping Santa would bring PETA some clues for Christmas. I guess not.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 10:10 PM
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27. Which one? Seriously answer this.
I really want to know what conservative issue you value more then reducing animal torture.

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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 08:20 AM
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37. Conservation not conservative
There's a big difference.
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 06:37 PM
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2. More gunpowder for Freepers
They need some new PR people - big time. This is lunacy.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 06:43 PM
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4. Since "Man" Is Here
Why don't we choose to throw a bunch of PETA fanatics into the rain forest of the Amazon basin without their Cell Phones, Bottled Water and Microwave Ovens?

It sounds like a fair trade to me and maybe the survivors would gain a new appreciation of "nature" beyond what they've seen in National Geographic.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 07:48 PM
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15. How about tolerance? People have a right to display billboads other people
How about tolerance? People have a right to display billboads other people find offensive.

Put up your own billboard in support of eating meat. No wait, there are already a million billboards telling people to eat at McDonald's, Burger King, KFC, etc., so don't bother.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 06:50 PM
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5. ROTFLMAO
"Why any organization would seek to garner goodwill for itself and its message by promoting an ad campaign that is so offensive to a large number of people within the community is unclear," the archdiocese said in a statement.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-common-practice.html

The basic idea behind the fallacy is that the fact that most people do X is used as "evidence" to support the action or practice. It is a fallacy because the mere fact that most people do something does not make it correct, moral, justified, or reasonable.



PETA shocks on purpose to get attention, and it works. We're talking about it, right? :think:
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fishguy Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 07:01 PM
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7. Yeah, we are talking about how idiotic PETA is...
on a consistent basis.

I remember listening to a radio show one morning.
The show is very apolitical. They get in arguments over sports and that is about the extent of the debate. PETA was mentioned in the news blurbs about some idiotic PR stunt they pulled.
Every last one of the five or six DJs, sports/news anchors, producers chimed in how much they hate PETA.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 07:32 PM
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12. yes, and if you ask they probably all hate Rosie
and all love Flush Blimpturd...:wtf: cares what they think?
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 10:06 PM
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26. Yep...
PETA shocks on purpose to get attention, and it works. We're talking about it, right?

Absolutely!

Sometimes I wonder, though, if they are getting attention paid to their shock tactics or to the message they are putting out. We seem to be talking about them, but not about their message.

Still, I have to admit that sometimes I think of one of their "images" when I'm about to have a meal. I still eat the same meal though... although with this mad cow thing I will probably avoid beef. Still, it's a shame to have to pick on the chickens.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 08:55 AM
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38. We talk about George Bush a lot, too...Does THAT imply support?
I didn't think so.
The question remains, though, is it GOOD "attention"?
There lies the diference.
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 06:54 PM
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6. Frankly, a lot of it has to do with their breath.
I mean really; is brushing twice a day all that difficult?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 07:50 PM
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16. Rush Limbaugh also calls protestors filthy, smelly, and disgusting. nt
nt
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 08:08 PM
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21. He also has eaten carrots. Do you have a point?
Yeah, I didn't think so.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 08:35 PM
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22. The point is you can express ideological disagreement without saying
The point is you can express ideological disagreement without saying your opponents smell.
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ParticipatoryDem Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 07:09 PM
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8. I believe peta is a rightwing front to make Dems look bad
Nobody could be stupid enough to support peta let alone agree with their complete and total ignorance. It's a setup I'm convinced.
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fishguy Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 07:10 PM
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9. Believe it or not, people can be that stupid
Have you ever received the Darwin awards in your e-mail?
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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 07:22 PM
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10. It has been suggested that the Darwin Award
should be renamed the Treadwell award.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 07:22 PM
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11. PETA is worse than the Darwin Awards
The Darwin Awards is populated by corpses who yelled "hey, y'all, watch this!" just before they did what they did.

PETA repeatedly does this kind of thing.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 07:33 PM
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13. I'm wondering about you, myself
but don't worry...everybody knows the Democratic party is just as regressive on animal rights issues as Republicans are
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ParticipatoryDem Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 07:42 PM
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14. No need to wonder - I'm up front with everything
Just ask. I'm still not clear on "animal rights" or when they were given these "rights" and by whom. If you're talking about animal studies to make the lives of humans safer and better then I agree it's not a partisian issue.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 07:50 PM
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17. PETA has nothing to do with the Democratic Party nt
nt
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 07:51 PM
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18. PETA is the biggest group of assholes out there...
wa-a-a-y out there.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 08:38 PM
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23. Because they actually convey a message besides "eat hamburgers?" nt
nt
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 01:52 AM
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32. Yes, thats it.
We should love them because they tell us not to eat hamburgers. Don't be silly, there are A LOT of reasons to dislike the PETA.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 07:52 PM
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19. The Humane Society of the US has a bigger budget than PETA and
The Humane Society of the US has a bigger budget than PETA and the same beliefs.

PETA gets publicity. HSUS doesn't.

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fishguy Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 07:54 PM
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20. You can't even compare the Humane Society and PETA
No comparison.
Humane Society gets a lot of positive press in local news, mainly because it is a grassroots organization.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 09:16 PM
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24. PETA Is The Howard Stern Of Animal Advocacy. Shock Value Only..
and doing more harm than good for their cause.

Pity.

-- Allen
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 10:32 PM
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28. besides PETA stories, how often do you read about animal rights? nt
nt
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 09:25 PM
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25. I just read the article, and I find their activities a bit tasteless, but
really, there ain't a hell of a lot of room for the Boston Diocese of the RCC to complain. They looked the other way for years while altar boys were being buggered by "holy" guys.
:grr:

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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 01:00 AM
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29. Here is a petition for you
for PETA to lose their tax free status. http://www.petitiononline.com/rvkptaex/

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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 01:24 AM
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30. *is*
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 01:51 AM
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31. Alot of people don't like PETA?
I thought EVERYONE didn't like the PETA?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 02:20 AM
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33. I dont like the way they do things..but type in, 'downer cows lunch alert'
these Downed cows were fed to mink in Minnesota that escaped into the wild and infected the deer population with CWD. Downed cows are too sick to walk but not too sick to be fed to your children. see www.organiconsumers.org and www.maddeer.org.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 07:59 AM
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34. And meanwhile back at the ranch
PETA has made the world a better place, even for(especially for) us meateaters. By dent of their outlandish(and constitutionally legal) tactics, PETA has forced McDonalds and KFC to give up factory farmed animals, thus the food that you get at these two establishments is less threatening from a disease standpoint(especially good in these days of Mad Cow), and is much tastier. So while you may grouse and carp about what PETA does, remember, it benefits you.

Also all of you liberals seem to be forgetting something. That the far left, "out there" organizations are a neccessary component in our national dialog and debate. If you didn't have some group like PETA out there, where would the impetous come from to pass any left leaning policies? Just as in the days of FDR, when it was the Wobblies, Socialist and Communists who provided the push to get us Medicare, Social Security, and Unemployment Insurance, so today it is groups like PETA, ALF and ELF who are giving the push for meaningful enviromental reform. Who else is going to do it? The Sierra Club? Sorry, but the SC has been a bought and paid for Washington whore for a couple of decades now. Whenever some Congressman needs to look pro-enviroment they dump a bunch of money into SC's lap and poof, instant green photo-op. At least PETA is out there doing things, and being pretty damn effective.
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 08:20 AM
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35. This is not effective.
At least PETA is out there doing things, and being pretty damn effective.

The point it not how 'bad' PETA is - it's that fact that this PR blunder was simply fucking stupid and only does more damage than anything.

It hurts the organization as is evident by the reaction here at DU.

They need to rethink their strategy or reel in the boneheads who thought this one up. Sure mistakes happen, but this is just stupid.

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Turkw Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 09:45 AM
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40. Pretty Damn effectrive for Rush and the other liars to paint us all as
people hateing wackos. That negative conotation helps Bush and his agenda of destroying any enviromnental legislation. Thanks PETA :eyes:
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Indiana Democrat Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 08:20 AM
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36. PETA is an embarrassment
While they have noble intentions, they come-off as lunatics with stuff like this.

Bashing Jesus and the Virgin Mary is not going to change minds.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 09:04 AM
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39. Supposedly, PETA wants to PROVOKE thought...
But all they do is continue to marginalize themselves. And since they associate themselves with the left, it hurts both causes.

All leftists should ban together and tell these morons to knock it off. Yes, they have valid concerns. But those concerns will never be addressed if right wingers continue to hold political power, and their antics ensure their own demise.

Doesn't anybody on their advisory board see this?
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