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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:23 PM
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George Bush won re-election on sept. 11, 2001...
he was given a get-out-of-election-year-problems-free card, and he'll be using it as much as possible.
All the bad stuff that can't be laid on Clinton's doorstep will be delivered to the WTC.
And if Osama is killed or captured before the election, we might as well fold up the tent and not even waste the money campaigning, -save it for 2008- we may need it(although we may want to save it in the form of euros).
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Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:27 PM
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1. We might as well fold up the tent? There are other factors.
The * administration has made it clear through words and actions that Osama is not the issue. I'm sure the bearded one is busy training new, strong, idealogical replacements in the event of his demise or capture. al-Qaeda is a hydra; cut off one head, two take its place.

And anyway, * was never elected. Can't be re-elected.

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:28 PM
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2. this scenario is only valid...
....if they can keep the lid on the secrets till after the election. And I don't think that's a given. The American people eventually catch on. And there is one huge voting block that is turning against Bush -- veterans and military.
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deminflorida Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:29 PM
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4. Thanks,
I'm retired military...good to have some recognition sometimes.
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deminflorida Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:28 PM
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3. Gee that sounds like what I was reading in Al Gore's mind...
just before he endorsed Howard Dean....

Not me buddy....the country I live in is too important to me and my family.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:29 PM
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5. You're sure right about the euro,
it's now at $1.265. It's been skyrocketing for a few weeks.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:29 PM
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6. Then why isn't his approval higher?
Why did he just poll 51% to Dean's 46%? This after Turkey in Iraq and Saddam captured. Personally, I think a lot of people are just getting tired of the guy. Osama is a wildcard. I do hope he's caught before causing more damage.
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:37 PM
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7. me too - i hope "he's"
Edited on Sun Jan-04-04 10:38 PM by laruemtt
caught before he (*) does more damage. as for 9/11 all that did was reserve a special space for * et al in hell. hammer that timeline out there until it can't be ignored and watch him stumble and fall on his face. those aren't from a conspiracy "theory" - those are documented hours and minutes that just don't jibe with their alibi. this should be so simple. hammer, hammer, hammer that timeline, aka timelie i guess.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:45 AM
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27. which poll are you going by?
there are only about several hundred or so to choose from...just find the one with the best numbers for your candidate and run with it...
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:37 PM
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8. if Dem's had killer instinct of Repugs, 9-11 would be Bush's loss date!
can you imagine how Repukes would be attacking President Gore had 9-11 happened on his watch? Why can't Dem's point out the fact that Bush was ignoring terrorism... taking excessive time off in AUGUST, just two weeks before 9-11.
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:41 PM
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9. we've just got to
get him to answer, under oath, why he just sat there in that school after he had been told two planes had crashed into the WTC. that'll finish him. he has no answer.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:43 PM
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10. Oh really?
Tell me what new voters chimpy has brought into his fold. True, if the election were on 9/12/01, he'd be a shoo-in. Or if there just HAPPENS to be a crisis this fall it will help him also. But please name me a group that plans on voting for the chimp that didn't in '00.
He shot his wad already. There's no where for him to go but down in a big way.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:43 AM
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26. people that believe Iraq was involved with 9/11-
since they were a group that didn't exist in 2000, and they now makeup over 60% of the electorate.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:45 PM
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11. The coward ran and hid while Americans died.
He saved his own ass first. Some of us got that.

It doesn't matter a damn what George says. All WE have to say is LOOK AT WHAT HE DOES. And show it.

Also, since the capture of Osama won't make us one bit safer, in fact we'll probably get some really nasty attacks just to prove it, the win from that one won't take either.

Why would any Democrat cede the election now, just because the Republicans plan to lie and play really really rough?

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yellowdog Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:48 PM
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12. Bunnypants did nothing on 9/11 but run and hide.
War with Afghanistan was what any President would have done in the situation, but I firmly believe Gore would have finished the job instead of walking away to attack Iraq.
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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:54 PM
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13. No he didn't
He thought he was being given a free pass and like his daddy (who had much better re-elect numbers around this time in 1992) he has screwed it up.

Honestly anybody with even basic political skills would be sending out invites to his victory ball and not criss crossing the country like a monkey on crack raising money. Other points: He's a horrible speaker and a very lazy campaigner - just like his daddy. Any of the democratic hopefulls - with the execption of Liberman - will be able to run his legs off. I mean this is man who gets cranky if he does not have a nap.

True the mainstream media has lined up to kiss his shoe but hey - if they think * is going to lose they will dump him like a bad habit. And even with the rah rah press he's only at 50%.

He's beatable. Hell i think he's very beatable. What cheeses me off is that I heard this stupid gibberish in 92 about his daddy and look what happened to him. he lost to a man most of us had never heard of a year before.

keep the faith.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 11:20 PM
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14. I sorta agree with you on the Bin Laden capture
but you never know. He only got a few bumps in Saddam was captured.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 11:25 PM
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15. I posted something positive about the Democrat's
chances on Satruday morning, and it gets 5 replies, from 2 other DUers.:eyes: This one has almost triple the amount.

Watch this one reach 100.

I guess defeatism sells here.:-(
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:37 AM
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23. actually, no....
realism does.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 01:18 AM
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28. Oh' touche.
So the Dems should just cut our losses and get out now, because that's "realism"?

The key is to MAKE your agenda the realism of today, and everything else fals into place. You just can't sit by and expect things to work out for themselves.

You know Chimpy has used 9/11 for political gain. You know that's stepping on the 3000 dead. Why are you accepting that as "real"?
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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 01:41 AM
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29. Ha! That is funny because Bu$h is not the real President. Al Gore is.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 11:37 PM
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16. Yea, right...and if Dubya DID 9-11 with his Saudi pals?
OBL will be dragged out but since we have absolutely zero proof that he was involved, why should we fold up the tent?
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:36 AM
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22. "zero proof" that OBL was involved with 9/11????
ummm...he's as much as admitted as much on videotape.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 01:50 AM
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30. That video tape was complete crap
As most of the Osama hit singles are, but that one especially wasn't even a GOOD forgery! All you see is a shadowed figure sitting there talking to some other anonymous Muslim, and the supposed "Osama" is obviously shorter and chubbier than the 6'5" Bin Laden. That tape sucked so bad I thought the Enquirer must have put it out.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 11:42 PM
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17. 9-11 could just as easily sink him.
If the public is convinced that his negligence allowed the attacks to happen, he's finished.
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sventvkg Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:26 AM
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18. Ya think so eh? Well then we get what we deserve for being lazy and
Ignorant as a people, no? Why don't you just quit your whining and wait to see how it unfolds? Have a nice day.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:40 AM
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24. exactly- people get the government they deserve.
and a country that's so fucking ignorant that 2/3's of the electorate believe that the 9-11 hijackers were Iraqi will most likely get another 4 years of the 'leadership' it deserves.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:28 AM
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19. It cannot be (re) election...
...when the idiot-in-chief was never elected by the people of the United States of America, in the first place.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:34 AM
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21. isn't about time to give up on the petty semantics thing...?
after all, it's been 3 years...the guy who takes the oath of office is the guy who wins.

Gore LOST the sElection the day he picked Lieberman as a running-mate.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:30 AM
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20. Well, yeah. That's why they let it happen
Hopefully, we can start exposing all of the willful negligence that the administration showed leading up to 9/11
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Enjolras Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:40 AM
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25. Really? Well, if so .....
Freedom is just another word for nothing to lose. If Chimpy is guaranteed a second term, then we might just as well follow our hearts. Let's nominate Dean, or even Kucinich!! I get so damn tired of rejecting a candidate I really like in favor of one I think can win. As perverse it seems, being doomed to failure is kinda liberating.

Don't you get tired of settling for the lesser of 2 evils time after time after time?
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