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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 10:05 PM
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God dammit, I need a drink
Edited on Wed Jul-09-03 07:21 PM by WilliamPitt
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_2529.shtml

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AnnabelLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 07:22 PM
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1. I've got a couple of Rolling Rocks in the fridge
or a bottle of Old Crow that I keep for making bourbon balls.

It may not help much, but at least you found out the story was junk before you wasted a lot of time & effort on it.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 07:25 PM
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4. You mean besides staying up until 4am to write
an article about this, and then waking up early to revise it, and spending a good deal of the day on it, and then calling every human I can think of to get hold of 'Terrance, including CIA headquarters and a 27-year CIA vet to corroborate, including about 50,000 emails to Ol' Blue to confirm the fucking story in the first place?

I repeat: :grr:
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AnnabelLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 07:27 PM
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7. Oops
I only saw your request for help in getting the phone#. Didn't realize you'd expended so much on it already.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 07:24 PM
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2. fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck
:beer: for the house!
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huckleberry Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 07:25 PM
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3. Your piece still stands Will - just substitute this guy -
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 07:26 PM
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5. Maybe tomorrow
:grr:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 07:27 PM
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6. Ya know what...George Bush is still a fucking liar.
Sooner or later, we'll get his ass. We always do!
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 07:29 PM
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8. THAT BITES!
What a bastard!

Will, I had a thought concerning this whole issue of when did the Pres. know the info on the Niger uranium was bogus. We were all happy that Wilkinson was connecting the dots, but maybe there's another way to connect the dots. I may be completely wrong here, but wasn't it common knowledge on DU at the time of the SOTU that the niger story was disproved? Now, if we knew about it, the Pres sure as hell should know right?

???
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 07:32 PM
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9. I'm confused about something Will
Specifically this paragraph in his story...

He said he had helped other Republican members of Congress I called some friends in other GOP offices and they said yes, they knew Terry Wilkinson.

"You can trust him, he's one of the good guys," one chief of staff told me. When I left politics and returned to journalism, Wilkinson became a willing, but always unnamed, source.

Over the last couple of years, Wilkinson served as either a primary or secondary source on a number of stories that have appeared in Capitol Hill Blue regarding intelligence activities. In early stories, I checked his information with at least one more source. His information usually proved accurate and, over time, I came to depend on him as a source without additional backup.



So if this guy had no record. And this wasn't his real name....

WHO WAS TELLING HIM THIS GUY HE WAS LEGIT?
AND HOW DID HE GET ACCURATE INFORMATION IN THE PAST?


This, I'm curious about.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 07:34 PM
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10. Suck it down, buddy. I'll keep pouring.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 07:34 PM
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11. What a fubar story.
I'm off the booze tonight so I'll see you a six pack tomorrow.:beer:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 07:41 PM
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12. Thoughts on the value of alcohol
"The beatings will continue, until morale improves" :-(

"Reality was an illusion... caused by a deficiency in alcohol" :-)

"Life was meant to be easy, but free will creates complicated issues". :-(

What to use to verify facts if you have the money :-(

http://www.knowx.com/home.exe?form=home/home.htm&userid=guest&password=welcome

This is the Tampabay10 Sky Cam. :-)

http://www.tampabays10.com/skycams/index.asp

great NASA Cosmic photos :-) :-)

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030630.html?list=true


http://www.wewantlinux.org :-)


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carolinayellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 07:44 PM
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13. Learn from this
We need you, Will Pitt. What are your twenties all about except learning from your fkups? If it sounds too good to be true it IS. Got a bourbon and branchwater here in the Carolina swamps for you, but DUers all over share your bummedoutness with this development. Don't worry, your big break is coming and we're all rooting for you.

CYD

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 07:56 PM
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15. Too bad I'm 31
:)
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 07:58 PM
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16. The people I talked to last night about were SHOCKED that you are 31.
Well, pleasantly surprised at least. :-)
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 09:18 PM
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26. Yeah - I was shocked when I met Will at the first Philly DU
gathering. I expected someone older because I thought he was wiser. He is wise so he must have brought some talent with him from a previous life. Anyway, don't get discouraged Will, I don't think this is a "true" story - something smells rotten. I'll help in any way I can and I'm looking forward to the 16th!
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carolinayellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 08:24 PM
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21. revision
what are your twenties, thirties and forties about except learning from your fkups?

From a 49 year old who will not fkup ever again :)
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TheBigGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 07:48 PM
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14. How about a Dead Nazi
A half a shot of jagermeister and a half a shot of pepermint schnapps.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 07:59 PM
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17. Well, as BLM noted - Rove has repeated his discredit procedure
From BLM:
"Yep...they're planting internet stories to discredit Rand Beers and other insiders who dare to tell. Rove used this same procedure when FORBIDDEN TRUTH came out and they planted that other French book with the outlandish claims but a similar title. They must be EXPECTING more insiders to turn on them."

We now know that Rove and his CIA/Pentagon team do not try to avoid having a pattern. They either think they are two smart and protected and that the discovery of the way they choose to discredit is not important, or that the media is stupid and/or lazy, or Rove and team are too stupid to think up new ways.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 08:06 PM
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18. Man Will, that really bites
It's amazing that this guy got away with the charade for this long. I gotta hand it to him. He's a good actor.

Still, better you found out about it before publishing your piece. Otherwise, you'd be publishing a similar humiliating retraction.

Here's a couple for you:

:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

Tomorrow's another day.

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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 08:07 PM
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19. Picture Charlie Brown having the ball taken out from his kick here
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHH!!!!

:grr:

A LOT of people's time was wasted on trying finding this jerk today. Whoever is drinking better drink one for us researchers too.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 08:13 PM
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20. i thought
that maybe boston was losing,but it`s only politics...
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 08:43 PM
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22. I find it amazing that ANY editor would believe anyone who
claims to be "Special Forces" practically anyone who says that to you is lying.
I know a great many SEALs, Green Berets and the like, and none of them walk up to strangers and say they are in Special Ops. It is just not done.
As soon as I read that sentance, I knew where this was going.

You watch, this posur will appear somewhere else and claim that his disappearance was due to a kidnapping by rogue CIA agents or some such drivel.

What sad, pathetic little people there are in this world.
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bandy Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 08:46 PM
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23. come on over to my house
we maka ya u happy. Hey, we thank you for your deligence. (Is that a word?) Don't give up. We love youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.


I'M GOING TO LIVE FOREVER! I CAN'T LEAVE NOW. I HAVE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

OPPS - THOSE DARN RUM & VAN. COKE DRINKS - CAN'T DO MORE THEN 5.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 09:08 PM
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24. Thompson needs to ask
"Who is this Wilkinson guy, anyway?"

The larger story for him is, whose agenda has he been serving all these years with this guy?

It's a damn shame the dots didn't connect here, but as GOPisEvil said, he still fucking lied, and as LeftCoast noted, there is still some way that these dots connect. Someone out there knows exactly what was said to Bush & Cheney. The Niger bullshit was debunked in the alternative media even before the SOTU. Are men and women in the street better informed than the preznit? No way. Someone will find the link.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 09:09 PM
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25. 20 years? This guy has been conned for 20 years?
I don't think so.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 10:01 PM
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27. I Think I'll Join Ya !!!
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 10:25 PM
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28. I'm buying, my friend. Drink up.
And drown your sorrows. L'Chaim! :beer: You :beer: Me.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 10:44 PM
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29. Two things my grandmother told me --
1) Never write ANYTHING based on only one source -- no matter what.

2) The more you want a story to be true, the more you have to doubt it. You need twice as much corroboration for a story that you REALLY want or need.

Looking forward to several decades of reading more of your writing, Will.
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Maine Mary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 10:49 PM
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30. Damn. I can't seem to open the link.
But here's a nice cold Dogfish for you. Contents unspilled and intact. ;-)

:beer:
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Ramsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 11:14 PM
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31. I don't know
He knows this guy for 20 years. And for most of that time, until the very recent past, his information can be corroborated with second sources.

Now, all of a sudden, he's not who he says he is, even though people in the past have claimed to know him and have vouched for him.

???? The whole thing is fishy. Did you talk to Doug Thompson? Maybe the guy is for real, but he has had to go underground. Maybe he isn't, but 20 years of deception? One has to ask why. He isn't famous or powerful or influential, so why?

Strange story indeed.
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