Who wants to talk about "The Day After Tomorrow" (there will be spoilers)

[LynneSin]

I have to say it! I loved the movie, but definately NOT because of the acting (the script tended to be on the corny side). But I thought there were great special effects and the subtile messages against the US government gave you a great laugh.

I thought the guy playing the Vice President came off like a Dick Cheney, but Perry King definately didn't seem like a George Bush (if King was really suppose to be like Bush - he would have left DC 5 minutes after a few snowflakes started instead of waiting until the very last minute).

I saw the movie twice and there were 2 scenes that the crowd really had a great laugh. The first was when Mexico shut down its borders refusing any refugees from USA. Then they showed all these Americans breaking down the fence and crossing the Rio Grande illegally.

Then the second scene was when Mexico finally opened up the borders to American Refugees, but only if the US forgave all Latin American Debts. The audience was laughing their asses off with that scene.

Anyone else have comments about the movie??

[slinkerwink]

1. did you see the peace symbol earrings that Sela Ward wore?

[LynneSin]

2. I noticed them the second time I saw the movie

and I think that was a Hybrid Honda that Quaid was driving when he picked up his son to take him to the airport

[AlinPA]

3. It was entertaining. The "president" did have a line where he asked

the "VP" (when learning of the weather problem) "What do you think we should do?".

The special effects depicting flooding were excellent.

[Vogon_Glory]

4. DAT As Black Propaganda?

Black propaganda is propaganda that is designed to look as if the other guy put it out, yet is also designed to discredit the other side, not yours.

My concern is that The Day After Tomorrow might have been released as a form of black propaganda by Fox's corporate owners as a means of discrediting environmentalists and those of us concerned about the risks associated with global warming.

The evidence of climate change is very real, particularly in the Intermountain West--unless you're an inerrantist or literalist who believes in creationism and nothing else. Death Valley is a giant lake bed. The Wasatch Mountains of Utah have the remains of ancient Lake Bonneville's old shorelines looking like bathtub rings where a god took his bath.

I believe that a lot of the science in the Day After Tomorrow--the super-storms sending the air temperatures down to -150 F at ground level is silly. It's so ridiculous that real scientists could have a field day trashing the silliness. But was the silliness deliberately placed there to give cover to the talk show hosts and think-tank polemicists to downgrade the real risks of global warming?

Real climate shifts involve horrors like massive droughts in farming country and the resulting crop failures and subsequent famines. Not the stuff for SFX but nevertheless very real. And not the sort of things that a Hannity, a Limbaugh, or an O'Reilly could wish away.

[ewagner]

11. Haven't seen it yet

but from what I've heard I tend to agree that this will hurt the environmental cause if the movie is embraced by the cause.

I have some connections with the world of meteorologists, and right now, they are groaning a bit about the movie. Some say that the science is absolute crap and they are a bit embarrassed by it.

As a disaster flick it's probably okay, but for the environmental movement to wholly embrace the science would be a mistake.

In the end, it's just a movie!

[ArkDem]

12. Well, you could explain the bowling ball sized hail by

saying warming caused the earth's gravity to change.

[TXlib]

15. I don't believe it was intended as black propaganda

It was intended as a cheesy apocalyptic movie, and the producers do what they always do -- ignore science if the special effects look cooler without it.

I have, however, seen the right embrace the movie as an example of the whackiness of environmentalists, even though, as far as it seems to me, most environmentalists are repudiating the bad science in the movie.

I've seen environmentalists write that they hope the movie raises awareness of the issue and causes people to get out on the internet and learn about the real science for themselves.

[Vogon_Glory]

19. The Wing-Nuts At Work And My Paranoia

I'd begun to hear rumblings from the right wingie-dingies concerning The Day After Tomorrow and how it supposedly is an example of enviornmentalist "lunacy." That was what set off my paranoia.

I doubt that the worst of the centuries-long droughts between the glaciation were all that much fun. Besides, most human infrastructure was built for milder climate conditions.

Of course, saying something like that and mentioning the cost of replacement infrastructure to reflect new climatic conditions and weather patterns goes sailing right over the zenith of the typical hard-core dittohead's awareness horizon.

[H2O Man]

5. I haven't seen it yet.

But I will. I've seen my favorite environmental attorney, Robert Kennedy Jr., giving it a very positive review. What struck me as fascinating, from the short clips used on the tv, is how the wall of water coming through the city streets looks like the smoke/debris on 9-11. Perhaps it's just me, but I felt there was a subtle message that the bush administration & friends are environmental terrorists who pose an enormous and immediate threat to our safety.

[THUNDER HANDS]

6. fun, pointless, movie

Don't see it expecting anything more than a fun, goofy movie. Actually, see it to see Jake Gyllinhal, or however you spell his name - the kid who played Dennis Quade's son. He's a good actor.

The special effects were cool. There were some funny scenes in it.

But...

Shrek 2 is better.

[LWolf]

7. It had its moments.

It's a sci-fi disaster movie; I wasn't expecting anything more, and that's exactly what I got.

Great visual effects.

Interesting politics. I don't suppose you can do a movie about shutting down most of North America for an entire ice age without including some of the political mayhem that would occur.

VP was definitely Cheney-like, and portrayed, until the last 5 minutes, as a greedy, short-sighted, sob. The dread, at the end of the movie when he was in charge, didn't pan out. His "conversion" was a false note.

The president? We didn't see much of him. I thought he was portrayed as an ethical human being. And he looked like Al Gore.

The border crossings were priceless. It occurred to me, as I listened to the packed theater laughing, that this appeals to both sides of the fence. Since I live in a heavily conservative, anti-immigration community, I knew that many who were laughing were not seeing the irony. They were thinking that turn about is fair play, maybe.

Outside of the political arena, my favorite characters were the homeless guy and his dog Buddha.

I loved the final scene at the Scottish weather/climate station. What do you do with your last hour and a bottle of 12 year old scotch? Burn it as fuel to give you a little more time, or?

Edited to add: the wolves were terrible. Terrible computer creations, stupid and unnecessary to the story.

[THUNDER HANDS]

9. yeah the president did look like Al Gore

and maybe it's just me - but the VP didn't look like Cheney at all.

:shrug:

[loafie]

17. odd

That's weird considering the first thing you mentioned after the movie ended was how much he looked like him. :shrug:

[sniffa]

8. absoLuteLy horribLe movie

i saw it sunday (thank god it was matinee priced). speciaL effects - good. the rest of the movie - very, very bad.

i haven't feLt this bad about a movie since sLeeping through the huLk.

"you don't understand... my dad's a cLimatoLogist!!!"

"now son, i know that my work as a cLimatoLogist has kept us apart for years..."

[LynneSin]

13. Hey, the script was cheesy as hell

"I promised my son I would come get him" and please - walking from Philadelphia to NYC during a severe blizzard. I don't think so.

But it was the subtle messages that the movie made about the irresponsibility of the US government when it comes to Global Warming that won me over. Everyone at the conference in INdia had questions about the effects of Global Warming but it was the US Vice President that shot everything down as phooey. It was the VP that didn't pay attentions to the request to evacuate immediately and cost us most of the Northern parts of the United States. I kinda dug that part of the movie.

But yeah, sus and I could barely contain ourselves with the cheesy scripts.

[sniffa]

14. the vp reminded me of cheney

is there a cLimatoLogist in the house!?

[LynneSin]

16. Hey, well my dad is a paleoclimatologist

SO THERE

(actually he was a Surveyor, but no one was screaming if there was a Surveyor in the house)

[cleofus1]

10. It was a great movie!

If I want to see art I'll go to a museum. I cried, I laughed and I was tingly all over....great flick...and the popcorn was good too!

[cmf]

18. I enjoyed it

We all laughed at the same parts, too.

The timberwolves were hella cheezy. When the three guys broke into the ship, I almost said to my husband, "Watch out, there's timerwolves on the loose." I didn't believe that they'd actually use that plot device - totally unecessary.

Yeah, the sudden ice age scenario didn't seem likely, but I think it did get people thinking. Epecially since we have been having crazy weather lately locally.