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Commendatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:10 AM
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Most liked the movie, you thought it SUCKED. Name that film.
This is an office discussion we're having as I type this, so I thought I'd go to a good source for varying opinion.

My choice: The Accidental Tourist. Yours?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:11 AM
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1. Lord of the rings
onLy because most agree the huLk sucked.
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Merrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:28 AM
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41. Yes!
Three hours of running and fighting and chasing and fighting. BAH!
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:49 PM
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149. It crapped on the triloghy. I hated what they did to my
fav childhood book.:mad:
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:08 PM
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155. I agree, it was a disgrace to Tolkien's memory.
Absolutely horrible what they did to the story. It literally makes me want to vomit.
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #155
164.  I really loathed how the fight scenes were so pumped up.
It was steriodal. It seemed the creators were just exploiting Tolkien to fashion a new computer game.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:11 AM
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2. Titanic
Utter dreck.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:12 AM
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6. I never even saw that
And I'd like to keep it that way.:D
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:13 AM
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11. Me too.
I'm boycotting it :D
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:38 AM
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51. Same here
I know how it ends. Don't need that, thanks.
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:50 PM
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150. I'm with you on that. I way will I see it, Dreck is right.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:14 AM
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16. Agreed!
Ranks up there as world's worst movie.

david
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:21 AM
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31. Worse Than Dreck!
Literally unwatchable. Glacially paced script, trite, wooden yet overacted performances. My wife and i were truly laughing outloud no more than 20 minutes into it.

How that piece of crap won an Oscar is one of life's great mysteries.
The Professor
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:22 AM
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33. Can you believe that pile of crap won for 'Best Picture'?
:puke:

That movie sucked ass
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:27 AM
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40. It's also the top grossing movie of all time!
/boggle

david
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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:44 AM
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58. Me too
I had to watch that drival again the other day at a friends house. I actually cleaned her kitchen instead.

The ship still sank
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 12:23 PM
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72. HATED IT!
Edited on Tue Jun-15-04 12:24 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
but I liked watching the boat sink

on edit: and Kate Winslets pasty breasts were cool.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:29 PM
Response to Reply #72
133. Exactly what you said
Leo annoyed me.

Lovely Kate's boobies saved the day for me. They helped keep her afloat, too.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:54 PM
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216. Reverse-engineered formula tear-jerker
Okay, so there's gonna be this rich girl who's being used (and not really rich) and sent to a loveless life by an oh-so-cruel world. The roustabout young guy has the true fire of life, and only the common folk in steerage really know how to have a good time. The only rich person who's not a monster is the one who's really a commoner. Ya got the lonely immigrant boy in peril, standing in the rising water with his satchel. Ya got the vengeful spoiled rich dick.

Top it off with trite dialog, including the "thousand knives" bit stolen from the trial, and it's just ghastly dreadful.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 12:26 PM
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73. Agree!!! Awful movie...
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:47 PM
Response to Reply #73
90. I liked it.
<running for cover>
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:53 PM
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94. You just liked Leonardo, didn't you? :)
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #94
97. Not really
he's never tripped my trigger.

I just wanted to see the effects.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #97
103. You should see him in "Total Eclipse"...
where he plays a gay French poet.... he's very hot (and naked) in it. :)
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:08 PM
Response to Reply #103
106. Mmmmmmmm now yer talkin'!
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #90
96. Of course you did
It's the GIRL in you :evilgrin:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #96
101. Nawwww
it was the ramming my Tonka trucks into a brick wall semi-destructive kid in me.

I always liked disaster movies.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:07 PM
Response to Reply #96
104. Deleted....
Edited on Tue Jun-15-04 02:13 PM by Misunderestimator
:)
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:11 AM
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3. English Patient
:boring:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:39 AM
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54. Another one I deliberately missed eom
eom
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 12:26 PM
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74. Another awful one.... agreed.
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:09 PM
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157. SO With You
I fell asleep during that movie. I almost never do that.

DTH
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:23 PM
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159. YES! I thought I was the only one!
Normally I love Kristin Scott Thomas, but I thought her charachter was so skanky.

The one scene that was worth sitting through the film for was the lighting of the cave, or cathedral, whatever it was. Can't remember now.
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:12 PM
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175. Agreed
A film about horrible, selfish people who have sex. And we're supposed to feel sorry for them. :puke:
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mstrsplinter326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:11 AM
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4. girl, interrupted
worst movie I've ever paid to see

second: Titanic
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:12 AM
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5. Something About Mary...
...painfully unfunny. Except for the 7-minute/6-minute abs discussion.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:12 AM
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7. ET
Hated it as a kid. Saw it again a few years ago...and it still sucks. Sucks eggs. Sucks.Sucks.Sucks.
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:44 PM
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144. OMG someone else who never liked ET.
I with you all the way, it sucked big-time but I loathe all Spielberg film products.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 08:24 AM
Response to Reply #144
194. I generally despise Senor Speilbergo
However "Catch Me If You Can" really put a smile on my face. Deep as a puddle, but a great example of a movie which has no artsy pretensions.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 11:14 AM
Response to Reply #194
205. So you like his boring stuff, and hate his good stuff? Let me guess
You probably like Tsongas more than Clinton, and Bradley more than Gore, I'll bet. :-)

Amazing the total range of opinions, isn't it? I never thought I'd meet anyone who didn't like Speilberg.
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #205
209.  Everything Speilberg does is manipulative and schlmaltzy.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOO Speilberg.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #209
227. Good! Welcome to showbiz, luv.
That's the point of movies. You want real life, leave the house.

The whole point of any literature is to manipulate you. The schmaltzier, the better!
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:12 AM
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8. Forrest Gump
Sappy, pretentious, overrated.
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Commendatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:17 AM
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22. Man, yes, how did I forget this one?
Had I thought of it at the time, I would have rated it higher on this list of mine than "Accidental Tourist."
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:19 AM
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25. Great choice.
It sucked.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:20 AM
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28. American Beauty.
Boring, cliched, lacking any new insight. What did people see in this tripe?
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:22 AM
Response to Reply #28
34. Wow! This was a great movie
One of the best American films ever made.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:34 AM
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48. Dude. You're kidding, right?
:puke:

Perhaps one of the most overrated American films ever made.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #28
35. "American Beauty"=attempted remake of "The Graduate"....
only without the relevant context of the 60's that made "The Graduate"
one of that decade's best.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 08:40 AM
Response to Reply #28
196. You are SO right about American Beauty!
It was a big fat cliched lie, from start to finish. I hated it. It was smug and slick and said nothing new (though I did like the bag blowing in the wind bit).

I'm so tired of the "secret dark heart of the suburbs" thing.

But this is the kind of thing you can't say at a dinner party or you'll jumped on from all sides.

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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:00 PM
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154. Gump sucked & Toms Hanks is my top pick for over rated actor.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #154
168. Gump sucked, but Hanks is great.
The only reason I could stay to the end of that one was Hanks's acting. Didn't save the film, though.
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #168
171. I think I am in a club of one. Everybody seems to love Hanks.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #171
178. It's not love, so much as recognition of his skill
He's got a couple of stock expressions and actions, but usually he's original and creates genuine characters, rather than just being himself no matter who he is playing. The latter is the norm in Hollywood. A few actors, like Deniro and Hanks and (I know I'll get arguments on this one) Bruce Willis (when he's not doing his action flicks) actually act. That's what I like about him.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #178
188. I'd agree with that. Just watched "Road To Perdition" and was
appropriately blown away by Tom Hanks. The dude's good. Recently saw him in Catch Me If U Can, too, where he also did a great job.

I love Forrest Gump, no matter what anyone else says...good stuff and some parts 'resonate' (to be really, like, Californian) with me quite strongly.
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 02:00 PM
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224. I, too, loathe Tom Hanks
I didn't used to---but I also used to like him more when he was a cheesy nearly-second-rate actor (Turner and Hooch? Or was it K9? THe man with one red shoe???). But Forrest Gump changed all that. Suddenly, he was the best fucking thing on 2 legs.

Then, when Saving Private Ryan came out (another movie I loathed), his star-power rose even more, but I'm not sure why.

Then, I was extremely disgusted that he's basically been made an "Honorary WWII Veteran" because he was in a movie about WWII. If that's the only criteria, then Willem Dafoe and Charlie Sheen should be "Honorary Vietnam Vets".

Also, from what I understand, as his star power rose, his ego inflated exponentially. Once known as one of the nicest people in Hollywood, Tom Hanks is now Prick du Jour and is incredibly rude to anyone who asks him for an Autograph, or, god forbid, a handshake.

He's totally over-rated, although in my view, 99.8% of Hollywood "actors and actresses" (I use those terms VERY liberally) are overrated.

I'm just not into the Cult of Celebrity. I think it's Digusting that teachers get paid $30k a year with a Master's Degree, but Demi Moore, who was a HS Dropout gets MILLIONS and MILLIONS of dollars basically for being a convincing liar.

I have much more respect for the unknown actors who work on Broadway, or independent films, and for whom acting is a craft and an art, not a way to be a billionaire quickly. People who appreciate acting, and not the money, are the ones i respect. HOwever, that list is exceedingly small.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 08:41 AM
Response to Reply #8
197. Forrest Gump is loathesome
I especially hated all that idiotic feather imagery. Duh!
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #8
208. Yup, the message I got from it was....
that you have to be retarded to be a good person.

Actually, in retrospect, I think Forrest was Prophetic of Dubya.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:12 AM
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9. Gone With The Wind sucked so bad
I could complete watching it :puke:
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Dan-W Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #9
156. Ummm... you meant "NOT", right?
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bubblesby2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:12 AM
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10. Moulin Rouge
Hated it.
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Commendatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:45 AM
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59. This movie was the final straw for my ex-wife
Edited on Tue Jun-15-04 11:45 AM by BlueOysterDemocrat
It weas back when ee were trying to reconcile, and for entertainment we took turns picking movies. It went as you would expect - I'd pick action, she'd pick chick flick.

She picked this one, and I fell asleep. Last thing I remember was some song where some people were trying to convince a sponsor that a musical would last 50 years or something like that.

She and I never had a civil conversation as husband and wife again.

We get along pretty well now, though. :)
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #10
85. I liked it.
Loved the parallels to La Traviata. Didn't like Kidman's voice, but it was appropriate in the role, and it was very well directed... loved the set design too. Also loved the music.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #85
89. I Loved It
Thought it was the most daring thing Hollywood's put out in 20 years.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:51 PM
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92. Love is so much
I have it on DVD.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #10
125. I might have liked it, but it was so hyper it made me dizzy
So does the Fox News Network, for that matter.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:57 PM
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219. I fucking HATED it
It was a cinematic insult to my intelligence
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:13 AM
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12. Prizzi's Honor
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:13 AM
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13. Top Gun, Pretty Woman, Titanic n/t
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:30 AM
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44. Good calls, every one!
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #44
143. I concur.
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:13 AM
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14. Fargo.
'course, I watched it when I was about 15, so maybe it'd stand watching again. Then again, there are so many other movies to try!
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:40 PM
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86. No way... that was a great movie.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:50 PM
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91. Oh my god NO!
I fucking LOVE that movie.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #14
98. You GOTTA watch it again!
Hell just the cast in that one was awesome..Frances McDormand and William H Macy are probably two of the greatest contemporary character actors there are...
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:08 PM
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105. I would watch the Three Stooges, if one of them was Frances McDormand!
LOVE HER!
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:18 PM
Response to Reply #105
111. I think she's really one of the best actors right now in any genre
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:06 PM
Response to Reply #111
122. I totally agree! I have never seen such a versatile actress.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:11 PM
Response to Reply #98
107. Oh yaaaa!
You betcha, doncha know.

Gotta go, my lunch looks nummy! :)
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:19 PM
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112. You lied to me, Mr. Lundegaard. You're a bald-faced liar.....
a F@CKING liar!!!!!
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Garage Queen Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #112
117. He's fleeing the interrogation!
I lurve me some William H. Macy.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #117
118. Tan Ciera! Tan Ciera!
No, I've never seen that film. :)
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aquaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 08:49 AM
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199. Fargo is a brilliant movie.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:46 PM
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215. Fargo's mean spirited and deadly dull
ya want some more eggs? Ya want some more eggs? Ya want some more eggs? OKAY, HE'S STUPID, ALREADY!!!

It's a mean, elitist feature-length sneer at the bumpkins. Unless you like laughing at inferiors, it has no point whatsoever.

Take it with a grain of salt, though: I don't like the Coen Brothers' movies. (Okay, I LOVE "Raising Arizona", and I haven't seen "The Big Lebowski", "O Brother Where Art Thou" or anything since, but I've seen all the rest and they're derivative, haughty, calculatedly quirky and a general waste.)

These are litmus test movies.
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GhostThatWalks Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 09:41 PM
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234. Just watch it again.
I'm 16 and thought it was great. Just watched it night before last.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:14 AM
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15. Dune
Maybe not most of the world population liked it, but most of my friends did.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:15 AM
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17. Mystic River....
Ugly to look at, difficult to hear, hammy acting backed up by hammy
music.

I think Tim Robbins was good, at least when I could see him. I kept
wondering how the cinematographer managed to make Boston
look dark in the middle of the day.
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Tina H Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:16 AM
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18. Mystic River
I thought the sterotyping was implausible and obnoxious, but that's just me.

second Choice: Something About Mary (what a waste of JoJo's talents (and Tommy's, too)).
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Anaxamander Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:55 PM
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130. I wholeheartedly agree w/Mystic River...
Just saw this piece of shit over the weekend. It's 2 hours and 15 minutes of boring, nonsensical garbage. The acting is horrible. For example, the cops question one kid about the death of his girlfriend. They reveal her death to him and the first thing out of his mouth is, "What, you don't think I killed her do you?" Horrible screenplay.

Also (and I don't mind giving away spoilers for a shit-movie), the kids who kill the guy's daughter did so with, like, NO motivation. "Just kids doing stupid shit. You know how it is." Oh, plus they tried to hide the body. Plus, Tim Robbins, the prime suspect, also killed another guy that night. Oh yeah, and the guy he killed was a child molester caught in the act of, you guessed it, child molesting. As you might have guessed, Tim Robbins was also molested as a child. And Kevin Bacon (the investigating officer) and Sean Penn (the father of the OTHER person killed that night) were his friends who witnessed his abduction. If this sounds like crap, it really and truly IS.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:16 AM
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19. Crocodile Dundee, Home Alone, Kramer vs. Kramer, etc.
I have a longstanding rule: whenever a movie becomes something "you just have to see!", avoid it, especially if it turns into a catchphrase.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:16 AM
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20. Legends of the Fall
:puke:
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:21 AM
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32. I think most people hated that from the word go.
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Hoosier Democrat Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:16 AM
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21. Cold Mountain!!!!
This was a pretty major-league suckfest. My girlfriend dragged me to see it and even she thought it was awful when it ended!!


:puke:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:17 AM
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23. LOTR, Ferris Buehler's Day Off.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:32 PM
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134. Ferris' character annoyed me. I'd have decked him. Smart alec.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:57 PM
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167. I hated the complete formulaic manipulation of the film
The script was so bad that I was reciting the lines along with the characters without having seen it before. I could hear the beginning of a line and finish it for the character, and give the next couple of lines to boot. They used every tired, cheesy teenage flick formula in Hollywood, and not one original line or thought or scene anywhere.

It had the IQ level of Barney or the Three Stooges, but unlike Barney, it was supposed to appeal to those over five.
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ejcastellanos Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:19 AM
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24. Shrek
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:45 PM
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145. I second that.
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cedahlia Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 10:31 PM
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187. So I'm NOT the only one!
I thought maybe I was just weird or something...everyone seems to love that movie. Blah.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:20 AM
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26. demonlover and Mystic River
I have only one question: which producer do I get to slap until I recover my 9 bucks?
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a_random_joel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:20 AM
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27. The Ring.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:20 AM
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29. The Piano
A ham-handed exercise in feminist purity, featuring a lumbering and overly tatooed Harvey Keitel as the noble savage Maori tribesman who falls in love with a Victorian piano player.

A crashing bore, that had all the politically-correct types atwitter with accolades.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:57 PM
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220. An homage to selfishness
The world has hurt me, therefore I can do as I please to everyone. Men can turn into mutilating fiends at the drop of a hat. Women are the angelic soul of nature. Love me, I'm deep deep deep.

Revolting. Boring. Shrill, in a subdued and softspoken way.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:20 AM
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30. Sleepless in Seattle
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:25 AM
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36. Fargo, American Beauty, Shrek??????????????/
These are on my list for some of the greatest films ever made and Fargo may be the best movies made in the last decade.
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:26 AM
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37. Titanic, The English Patient...
...The Hours and Scent of a Woman.

Sorry, but I found 'em all a little precious and more than a bit tedious.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:26 AM
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38. American Pie
blech
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Merrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:27 AM
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39. The Matrix
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:29 AM
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43. tried to sit through that turkey twice...
and failed both times. Boring and incomprehensible....
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 12:10 PM
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67. I tried with Matrix but just couldn't...........................
get into it. I thought the last one was the worse of all.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:34 PM
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135. The first didn't really do anything for me. Didn't watch the others.
Saw it last year, after the hype had subsided. I thought of a hundred ways that it could have been better.
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:53 PM
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152. I gave it about 10 minutes & it was 9 minutes too many.
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minkyboodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:54 PM
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121. yep
all three of them. dialogue that makes 80s porn seem like Shakespeare.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:28 AM
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42. "Stardust Memories"
Woody Allen decides to do a hommage to Ingmar Bergman. The critics adore it. Terry thinks it's a pretentious piece of self-indulgance.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 02:00 PM
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225. My favorite Woody Allen movie
"To you I'm an atheist; to god I'm the loyal opposition"

"I've got an IQ of 1200, and even I don't know what you wanted out of that relationship."

"I used to be a heroin addict, now I'm a methadone addict."
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gWbush is Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:31 AM
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45. Blair Witch Project -- sucked!
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:34 AM
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47. Another Total Piece Of Crap!
It is, however, the greatest movie marketing scheme in the last 20 years. Those kids got the entire movie industry and the fan base to believe that there was something artistic and clever about that low rent garbage reel.

Horrible movie! Brilliant marketing job. They torched an entire industry.

Unbelievable.

The Professor
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:23 PM
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78. Even worse
The best parts of it were ripped off from a better, little known independent movie. They got famous by ripping off their fellow struggling artists. Nice, huh?
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:41 AM
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57. Oh, man
Totally and utterly pointless. What a waste of film.
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Lavender Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:32 AM
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46. American Beauty, the Matrix movies, Good Will Hunting
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:36 AM
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49. Everything Ron Howard
has touched. He could turn a silk purse into a sow's ear.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:39 AM
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53. Even Parenthood???
grumble grumble grumble

david
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:52 AM
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61. Didn't see it.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:57 AM
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64. Oh good...
It's funnier since I became a parent.

I'll get on board with most other Howard movies being crap too, although I must confess that I was a Willow NUT when it first came out. I mean NUT NUT NUT, like you wouldn't believe.

Sometimes I'm so ashamed.

david
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:48 PM
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165. One of the best friggin' directors alive!!!
How could you not like Ron Howard?
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 10:43 PM
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189. Ron Howard is good at what he does
Here're his 27 Director credits, courtesy of IMDB. Some good stuff in there.

Cinderella Man, The (2005) (filming)
Missing, The (2003/I)
Beautiful Mind, A (2001)
How the Grinch Stole Christmas (2000)
Edtv (1999)
Ransom (1996)
Apollo 13 (1995)
Paper, The (1994)
Far and Away (1992)
Backdraft (1991)
Parenthood (1989)
Willow (1988)
Take Five (1987) (TV)
Gung Ho (1986)
No Greater Gift (1985) (TV)
Cocoon (1985)
Splash (1984)
Littleshots (1983) (TV)
Night Shift (1982)
Through the Magic Pyramid (1981) (TV)
Skyward (1980) (TV)
Cotton Candy (1978) (TV)
Grand Theft Auto (1977)
Cards, Cads, Guns, Gore and Death (1969)
Deed of Daring-Do (1969)
Old Paint (1969)

Also, 41 credits as Producer, on these films and others
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:37 AM
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50. Dead Again
The surprise premise is that the woman is the reincarnation of the man and vice versa. If you look at the flashbacks/memories, she clearly remembers things the man from the past didn't witness.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:39 AM
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52. Harry Potter
Just not my cup of tea.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:39 AM
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55. The Sixth Sense and Signs
M. Night Shyamalan is a hack, yet everyone seems to love his movies for some reason.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:31 PM
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82. He is a hack.
And he picks annoying leading men for his films.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:53 PM
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166. Sixth Sense was overrated, but not horrible.
Not like LOTR, anyway. Signs sucked.

I like Unbreakable. The tense pace works for me. And the downplayed violence. I hate John Woo style action scenes. Shymalan downplays the action crap and works on a plot instead. The Sixth Sense was too obvious to completely work, but I wouldn't call it bad.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:40 AM
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56. Shrek
Could not hold a candle to Monsters, Inc.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:48 AM
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60. Sixth Sense was total dreck
Long and boring.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:20 PM
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211. especially when you knew from the start the guy was dead
hello, the kid says I SEE DEAD PEOPLE. Was that not a f***ing CLUE???
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:53 AM
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62. Pulp Fiction. Signs.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 12:03 PM
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66. Pulp Fiction!
DS1, WTF. That movie may be my all time fav. One of us has no taste.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 12:14 PM
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69. It's you
:shrug:

:7

I don't ~mind~ the movie so much as the way Taratino drags out his 'dialogue' so much it's like he wants me to be masturbating to it.

5 dollar shake? :eyes:

Royale with cheese? :eyes:

booooooooooo-ring!
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:19 PM
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77. Well, I think this proves the two of us are sane.
Everyone is else is crazy.
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Delano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:32 PM
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83. Ditto on Pulp Fiction - ALL Tarantulatino films suck - misanthropic crap.
"signs" was a bit dull, but not as offensive as Tarantulatino. "Bride of Chucky" would be more intelligent and uplifting...
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:46 PM
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127. Most overrated director. Critics love him. I can't stand him
Pulp Fiction? You are right. I was bored.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:57 PM
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95. I agree w/ Pulp Fiction
That was almost unwatchable for me. It bugs the shit out of me when people try to be "artsy", and they suck at it.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 02:10 PM
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226. Pulp Fiction for sure!!! (n/t)
.
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skippysmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:54 AM
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63. To Die For
I love Nicole Kidman, but I just didn't get this movie.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 12:10 PM
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68. I *hated* that movie
But I don't know anyone who liked it.

Agree on Ms. Kidman, though!

david
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:12 PM
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174. I liked it
I thought Kidman was excellent, as were the characters of the loser high school kids.
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non sociopath skin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 12:01 PM
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65. The Girl With The Pearl Earring
As grandma would have said "a load of good-looking nothing."

The Skin
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:37 PM
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137. Watched it recently (not my choice) and admit that it was very well
acted and incredibly lit and shot, but I can't recall anything actually happening. Definitely no car chases. May be a well-done film, but I'd perhaps characterize it as a 'chick flick' for a semi-comatose chick.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 12:16 PM
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70. Out of Africa.... YUCK
at least I got a nap out of it...
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:38 PM
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138. Went on forever. Another beautifully crafted and acted film that was
just plain BORING. Not a good sign when I get fixated on the VCR clock.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:40 PM
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140. P.S.: "Gandhi," too -- haven't seen it since the '80s, so maybe I'm off
base, but I recall it dragging interminably. Again, a truly excellent piece of work, but........oh.......so....booooooooooooring. I don't have a short attention span, either (not especially, at least), but I felt like I'd watched the story of his entire life in real time.
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Gildor Inglorion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 12:22 PM
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71. Out of Africa...BORING! Unbearable!
And I'm a big Streep fan. But then "Plenty" sucked, also.
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 12:55 PM
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75. I was really disappointed in "Lost in Translation"
I love Bill Murray and thought he was great in it but I guess the movie was SO hyped by the time I saw it it was a let down.
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:03 PM
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76. Shadow of the Vampire
Well William Dafoe only sucked literally in this movie, he was fine, but the whole thing left a really sour taste in my mouth.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:27 PM
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79. "The Shawshank Redemption"
Didn't think it actually SUCKED but I am baffled by its high ranking over at IMdB. It is the #2 movie over there, with lots of people calling it the greatest movie of all time. WTF? To me it was just a standard Hollywood treatment of a Stephen King novel.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:12 PM
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108. Well, it's certainly not in the top 5 greatest
but it was a great movie. It should have won best picture IMO.. There's no way Forrest Gump should have won.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:29 PM
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80. Saving Private Ryan
Probably the most overrated war movie ever. What really irked me was how some people tried to pass it off as an "anti-war" World War II film. Puh-leeze! What the hell was anti-war about it? A bunch of soldiers go on a mission to bring a soldier home and he disobeys the order to stick around and fight? Just because a movie shows soldiers crying does not make it anti-war. And that coda at the end was manipulative sentimental schmaltz. Poorly written and Spielberg's direction lays it on a tad thick.

Speaking of Spielberg's direction, everyone praises it with the orgasmic, "Oh, the first twenty minutes! D-Day! Oh God!" Sorry, but the first twenty minutes does not a movie make. The rest is quite predictable. And that final battle scene didn't really inspire me either. The only real inspiring performance is Jeremy Davies. If the screenwriters had made him the main character, THEN we would have had a genuinely anti-war World War II film.

Getting back to those opening twenty minutes, yeah, that is great filmmaking. But the greatest battle scene ever filmed? I'll take Coppola's "Ride of the Valkyrie's" scene in Apocalypse Now over that any day. And if you want to see a great anti-war World War II film, look no further than Malick's The Thin Red Line released the same year as Ryan.

Flame away, Ryan fans!
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:24 PM
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114. Yay! The Thin Red Line!
I love it when other people (there are few!) like The Thin Red Line more than SPR.

It's nice to know there are other folks with taste out there.

david
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:38 PM
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139. Everything Spielberg does is manipulative and schlmaltzy.
BOOOOO Spielberg!!!!!
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:30 PM
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81. Terms Of Endearment - GAAAAAAAAAAA
A maudlin, elephantine melodrama. Jack Nicholson did make parts of it watchable, but for the life of me I couldn't figure out what all the swooning and weeping was about.

Oh, and did I mention Debra Winger's incredibly IRRITATING raspy voice?
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:37 PM
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84. Royal Tenenbaums
There wasn't a single character I sympathized with.
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:56 PM
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153. You must not have seen the trailer otherwise you would not
have been lured into the theatre.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 07:47 AM
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192. Yes and No
I did see the trailer, but wasn't lured into the theatre (if a movie-maker wants to get $6-10 outta me, they need to do an incredible job of appealing to my curiosity to get me in there - and most don't). Saw the DVD.
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marigold20 Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:09 PM
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172. Just awful!
This was truly the worst movie I've seen recently. It may even have topped "Ash Wednesday".
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:40 PM
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87. Ghost World, Lost in Translation
I wanted to swallow my own tongue. :)
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:43 PM
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88. Lost In Translation
I was LOST in the whole movie.
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MirrorAshes Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 09:04 AM
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203. LIT was wonderful!
Sorry you didn't enjoy it. One of my favorite movies ever.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 01:51 PM
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93. Shrek
And especially Shrek 2.
Garbage.
15 years from now people will be ashamed to admit that they went gaga over these films.
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:00 PM
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99. "Signs" - the M.Night Shyamalan disaster
Edited on Tue Jun-15-04 02:02 PM by Flaxbee
It sucked, big time. No suspense, and stupid stupid stupid! Why would aliens, smart enough to travel thru the universe, choose to come to a planet that's 3/4 water when water is what destroys them? Huh??


edited for clarity
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Anaxamander Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:49 PM
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129. Signs sucked SO bad...
Why is it that whenever there's a priest in a movie who's "lost faith" that I know I'm going to see him in a collar again in the last reel?

Also, Joaquin Phoenix kills the alien with a baseball bat. I shit you not.

God, what a HORRIBLE fucking movie. Barf!
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:01 PM
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100. Lost In Translation
Bored me to tears.
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ACK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:03 PM
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102. Titanic and Forest Gump
Especially Gump god I hated that huge exercise in anti-intellectualist nonsense.

But look where it got George Bush.

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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:12 PM
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109. Forrest Gump
One of the worst movies ever.
Flame away, I don't care, the movie sucked.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:42 PM
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142. Hey!
:P
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Mr. Blonde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:14 PM
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110. Scarface
took me like three tries to actually get through it. Forced myself to because of the massive erections my friends got just talking about it.

honorable mention to 28 days later. And Super Troopers.

In defense of the Matrix, the first and second ones were great. The third was shit.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:21 PM
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113. Mulholland Drive
an extremely irritating film experience.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:26 PM
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115. no hay banda!
ni hay orchestra.

Loved the film, if only for that sequence.

I like most films that leave you saying "huh?"

david
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:42 PM
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141. I watched about 10 minutes on TV and thanked my lucky
stars I didn't pay to see it. Honestly I could not believe it got any good reviews. Did the critics see the film??????????????????????????
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Garage Queen Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:29 PM
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116. SHREK 2 - egads, what a piece o' crap.
Renee Zelweger in COLD MOUNTAIN. (barf)

VAN HELSING - no, wait, everyone ELSE thought it sucked, too. heh

And, I was disappointed in ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND. Not that it was a bad movie, but by the time I saw the film I had already created a better screenplay in my head, so what I saw on the screenplay was disappointing.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:04 PM
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170. Shrek II? O C'mon!!! You're not one of those people
Who thinks it's cool to dislike things that everyone else likes, are you? Shrek II was great, and I don't even like that type of film.
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Garage Queen Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 08:33 AM
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195. Why would anyone consider disliking something to be "cool"?
That's about the lamest thing I've ever heard.

No, I didn't like it because:

1. It was basically a tired rehash of the first movie. Nothing new here - just the same old "Judge people by what's on the inside, not what's on the outside."

2. The writing was bad - it was over-written for kiddies, and underwritten for the adults.

3. The animation was "meh" at best. Again, nothing new here, no new territory explored.

4. None of the new characters were interesting.

5. Why was the dragon relegated to a guest appearance at the end? And why did it seem (to me, anyway) that Eddie Murphy was "muzzled". Eddie stole the show in the first movie, did Mike Myers have a problem with that?

I liked the original SHREK, and found it funny and original. This one - not so much.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 11:10 AM
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204. Well, whether it's lame, it's true
Ask people who there favorite band is, and there's always a few who take pride in naming some talentless hacks no one has ever heard of, while trashing any band that's hit the top 40. Ask people about movies, and there is always someone who loves to trash anything that sold well, while naming some obscure Peter Jackson flick. These are the same people who in elementary school would shout out "That was the EASIEST problem" about the problem everyone had trouble with.

Don't tell me you've never seen them. My own personal opinion is that this phenomena is responsible for a lot of fringe candidate support on either side.

I was teasing you, by the way. I loved Shrek II, thought it was much better than the first (maybe because Eddie Murphy was controlled a little more-- to me he was the weak link in the first one), loved the new characters.... I disagree with you on everything except the animation not being that good, but I'm always more interested in the script than the effects, anyway. Oh yeah, and it was the same message as the first, but so what. It's the message of lots of other films, too. Originality is rare. And it was the usually-forgotten follow-up to "happily ever after," which was a different twist.
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Garage Queen Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 11:49 AM
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207. Teasing? NO teasing allowed, young ... uh ... man? ;)
I guess I've been spoiled this year by being able to see a lot of independent and foreign films at a local movie house - it tends to make it harder to enjoy the Hollywood Formula Movies. I hated "Van Helsing" (they spent $150M? WHERE!?) and "The Alamo," was neutral about "Troy", and was disappointed in "Hidalgo" and "50 First Dates." But loved, loved, LOVED "Return of the King."

In the Indy department, I loved "Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter and Spring"; "I'm Not Scared" and "9/11/01"; but HATED "Young Adam" and "The Reckoning." So, simply being an "indy" isn't enough to get me to like a film, and a movie being a blockbuster isn't enough to get me to hate it. I just tend to like things like a coherent storyline, good writing, good acting, ...

If I'm sitting there in the theatre recasting a movie ("50 First Dates) or rewriting it ("Eternal Sunshine") or just shaking my head ("The Day After" - which, by the way, would have been better as a Bond film, but I digress) then I tend not to like it.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 02:27 PM
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230. I haven't liked many films lately
Oddly, most of the ones I have liked have been kids films, I think because they are supposed to be pretentious, so I don't mind it.

The only one in your list I've seen is Return of the King, and I hated it. Too long, no coherent narrative (unless you filled in the blanks with the book), too many cimegraphic cliches, and really annoying music. Good actors, but even they weren't given much leeway. Poor Elijah, I'll never be able to think of him as happy again!

Films I've seen lately that I really loved (some were on DVD): Shrek II, Brother Bear, Croupier, Triplettes of Bellville. Harry Potter was a tad better than average, which was better than the others, but not what it should be for the budget and talent. Hellboy was cute (someone made me watch it).

Films I hated-- I try to forget them, but LOTR... Geeze, it's like a bad taste that won't go away. I kept trying really hard to like it, but couldn't. The scene where the eagle rescued Frodo from the rock almost made me cry. They fade to black, then come back for another two hours, it felt like, to show Frodo's head with the lava background. Pointless, cliche, and way too long for an already too long film.

And I'm always teasing. In person people realize this, but in writing, I have off days. I'm young enough, and male, for the record.
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Garage Queen Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 04:00 PM
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231. You know, I hadn't read the LOTR books before I saw the movies
and I didn't feel like there were any plot "holes" when I watched the movies. And ROTK - wow, just blew me right away. The ending, however, did confuse me, until I realized what Peter Jackson was doing - he was showing us what happened to each of the Ring bearers. And, I realized later upon reading the book, he was just following what Tolkein wrote - minus the totally inexplicable Scouring of the Shire chapter. (Good edit, PJ!)

When I saw the movie for the second time the "multiple endings" made much more sense and didn't seem as jarring. I have to admit, though, the first time I saw the movie and it faded to black after the "...here at the end of all things" line, I thought that WAS the end of the movie - and I nearly lost it! "Noooooo! They can't Die! NOOOOOOO!"

Yeah, and I loved Tripletts of Belleville - trippy movie, eh?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 09:23 PM
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232. Tripletts was wild
The whole movie had a rhythm. I loved the portayal of Americans, too. Insulting, but hilarious.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:50 PM
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119. Moulin Rouge
Most overrated movie ever.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:53 PM
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120. Barton Fink.
Idoan geddit. Not at all.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:55 PM
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217. Gah! Barton Fink ROCKED!
Fantastic, fantastic film.

david
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:09 PM
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123. Pearl Harbor, Titanic, Armageddon.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:12 PM
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124. Star Wars... ALL OF THEM
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:22 PM
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126. So many bad movies, so little time....
but some I particularly hated:

Independence Day - what jingoistic crap! hey guys, try writing a SCRIPT next time!
Forrest Gump - ugh. Just ugh. There is nothing whatever that I like about this movie.
The English Patient - oh dear god. Please shoot me now so that I never have to watch this again. The longest two hours in the history of cinema.
The Blair Witch Project - no script, non-actors shrieking shrilly at each other for what seems like fifteen hours, motion-sickness inducing camera movement, and the dumbest premise in history combined to make this one of the most laughably bad movies since...well, see above.
Stardust Memories - Woody Allen whines for two hours about how awful it is that people expect him to make funny movies. Woody, if you don't want to make funny movies, don't make funny movies, but don't make movies whining about what we "expect" of you.
Happiness - simply making a depressing story about truly fucked-up people living truly fucked-up lives is not art, no matter how good the acting may be.
Breaking the Waves - see Happiness.
Pretty Woman - oh for chrissakes, SPARE me. Could we possibly have gotten one more stupid-ass unrealistic stereotype crammed into this patronizing, cynical, woman-hating movie?
Top Gun - despite having several of my favorite actors (Val Kilmer, Anthony Edwards, etc.), this is still one of the stupidest ideas for a movie ever, and the soundtrack makes me want to stick icepicks in my ears.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:46 PM
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128. titanic
:puke:
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StopThief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 04:17 PM
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131. The Big Chill and The Ice Storm
Hated them both. Critics loved them.
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yorgatron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 04:29 PM
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132. Citizen Kane
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:56 PM
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218. Saying something like that is likely to get you killed.
Perfect film IMO.

david
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:36 PM
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136. ET, I hate Spielberg films.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:46 PM
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146. THE FRENCH LIEUTENANT'S WOMAN.
Throughout the '80s, I adored Meryl Streep. But try as I might, I simply couldn't get more than about 20 minutes into this turgid film.

I also felt that way about another acclaimed Streep film, OUT OF AFRICA. Beautifully photographed, magnificently acted, and it goddamned near put me to sleep. After about 90 minutes, I kept asking myself, "Is this fucking thing ever going to end?!"
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:46 PM
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147. Chasing Amy, Ghost World and anything Whit Stillman.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:47 PM
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148. "Kill Bill"
I prefer "Beat The Crap Out Of Quentin"
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:51 PM
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151. "21 Grams"
Playing with the timeline gone beyond interesting into the province of an annoying gimmick...make the thing unnecessarily hard to follow. A great film, otherwise...pity that one of the editors dropped all the clips on the cutting-room floor and assembled them in random order.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:13 PM
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158. Leaving Las Vegas
SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!

Elizabeth Shue getting butt-raped isn't my idea of
good cinema.



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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:37 PM
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182. Amen
One l-o-o-n-g, pointless exercise in misogyny. The director seemed to get too much of a thrill out of brutalizing her, between that rape scene and the scenes where her pimp cut her up for not bringing him enough money.

And what did she see in Cage's character anyway? That whole "romance" (??) made no sense.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 10:11 PM
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186. And what disgusted me is the reviewers (Ebert especially)
saying that Shue allowing herself to be brutalized
was "brave" and "daring."

The whole thing made me sick.

(And Cage won an Oscar for this piece of filth. :eyes:)
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 08:44 AM
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198. Agreed!
"Hooker with a heart-of-gold inexplicably falls for disgusting loser guy." It's a kind of male fantasy movie, not much more.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:26 PM
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160. Mystic River - God it sucked!
Where to begin - the preposterous plot - the over-acting, the pathetic portrayal of a "workin' class" neighborhood. What rot!!!
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:12 PM
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173. The book was much better than the movie.
Read it and you'll see.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:40 PM
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161. Natural Born Killers
Edited on Tue Jun-15-04 08:42 PM by Cush
I know, I know, it had a "message", but what a load of crap. I finally watched it in its entirety the other night (one of the movie channels), ugh. I want my time back

Also:

The Matrix

American Beauty

T2

Galdiator (I couldn't even watch sit through it all)

Saving Private Ryan: Great opening, the rest was a letdown
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:40 PM
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162. Love, Actually.
It was so bad, it haunted me.
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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:42 PM
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163. TROY
I'm not a purist by any stretch, but it sucked big time.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:04 PM
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169. First and foremost, The Piano and Punch-Drunk Love
Edited on Tue Jun-15-04 09:07 PM by Lydia Leftcoast
Each had huge plot holes and made no sense, not even in movie reality.

I'm going to speak in defense of Ghost World. I was an alienated high school student myself, although I lived in a different world than Thora Birch's character, and she did and said a lot of things that I would have LOVED to have said and done. It was one of my favorite movies of the year.

I also found the two Shrek movies to be lightweight fun, not great cinematic art, but fun.
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:16 PM
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176. Sigh. I have to defend Punch-Drunk Love again
If I had a dollar for everytime I saw this film get trashed....

I love it. It's a romantic comedy for cynics who love romantic comedies. I guess it's a rather specialized audience. :D

Oh, I loved "Ghost World", too.
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:18 PM
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177. The Lion King
Don't even get me started. I was cheering for Scar.
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:39 PM
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183. Well of course you were cheering for Scar
How could you resist that VOICE. I'd cheer for any character voiced by Jeremy Irons.

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:28 PM
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179. Fargo, Lost In translation
actually walked out of Lost... All the interesting parts of that I can find at the Scarlett Johannson picture site.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:32 PM
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180. american beauty
HATED it.

everyone i know loves it.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:35 PM
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181. Out of Africa, The English Patient, Fight Club
Especially "Out of Africa" because it beat out "The Color Purple" for best picture, I mean what a CROCK OF HORSESHIT! :mad::nuke:
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 09:46 PM
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184. Speed
I like a good actioner, but only if it doesn't stretch credulity beyond the breaking point. Just about everything in this movie rang false to me, especially the bus leaping the chasm of a missing stretch of bridge.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 10:04 PM
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185. Rocky
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:08 PM
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190. LOTR: TTT and ROTK
I like the first one.

TTT had endless helicopter shots of horsemen riding through majestic valleys, it became ridiculous. And those goddamned hobbits wouldn't stop weeping like little bitches.

ROTK was good until the end, where it went on for another half hour showing hobbits weeping like little bitches.
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 11:10 PM
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191. Passion of the Christ.
GAAAAGGGG!!!
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 07:54 AM
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193. Moulin Rouge
It was beyond awful!
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 08:50 AM
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200. 28 Days Later.
Slow and boring with plot holes a mile wide.

My favorite dumb scene: Jim, covered in blood after his rampage against the horny soldiers, finds Selena in a bedroom holding her trusty machete. Without saying a single word to reassure her that he isn't infected with the rage virus he lunges towards her only to have her raise the machete and then miraculously realize at the last second that Jim is uninfected. They embrace and kiss. A bullshit Hollywood moment in a non-Hollywood movie.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 08:59 AM
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201. Pretty Woman-offensive to women on so many levels
I was astounded when Julia Roberts got nominated for an Oscar for her role.
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MirrorAshes Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 09:03 AM
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202. Old School
I've heard it referred to as the modern day Caddyshack--UGH, what an insult.
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 11:16 AM
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206. Dracula-Gary Oldman version
Edited on Wed Jun-16-04 11:17 AM by ceile
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:58 PM
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221. Did anyone think that was a good film?
It sucked on the rocks!

Gary Oldman is a master, though.

david
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:13 PM
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210. that last Matrix movie
that was a painful experience
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GhostThatWalks Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 09:50 PM
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237. I agree
That was my least favorite of the three. It was very boring and they left to many stories open and to many questions unanswered. Stupid ending to.
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Lestat Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:21 PM
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212. Titanic.
Edited on Wed Jun-16-04 01:21 PM by Lestat
LOTR.
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:23 PM
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213. A Fish Called Wanda n/t
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:36 PM
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214. Shakespeare in Love. Brazil.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:59 PM
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222. Some Like it Hot (Risking death)
Okay, it didn't *suck*, but its often rated the best comedy of all time.

Ummmmm, give me a SERIOUS break.

A couple clever bits and a cute ending, but not much more than that.

david
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Mokito Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 02:00 PM
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223. Signs
A perfect example of how to FU a good storyline with a crappy ending.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 02:14 PM
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228. The Philadelphia Story
Katherine Hepburn's Tracy Lord was one-note to me, and her acting too cute by half. Liked the men, but Kate ruined it for me.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 02:23 PM
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229. It was a tie for me ... <snore>
Gosh both slobbery sentimental seemingly never-ending flicks that sucked Sucked SUCKED were "Out of Africa" and "The English Patient."

If I ever suffer a severe 'bout of insomnia, I'll be sure to purchase these two DVDs to play in the background for a sure-fire cure. <snicker>
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 09:31 PM
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233. Oh oh oh... Dead Poet's Society
Gawd, I hated that movie! So utterly pretentious and I think it won for best original(!) screenplay! :wow::puke::wow:
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GhostThatWalks Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 09:47 PM
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235. They
Horrible story, bad cast, stupid ending. That movie sux! They rest of my family thought it was great. I was the one who saw it for what it really was, the worst piece of crap ever made. .
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dad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 09:48 PM
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236. The Matrix
I agree with a lot of the other comments. Let me add one that no one has metioned: The Matrix. I have never met anyone besides me who did not like that movie.

Almost all of the dialogue is extraneous. It's like everyone is trying to make a catch phrase instead of being coherent.
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