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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:22 PM
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I'm 27 and think Rap peaked in the mid 1990s
In terms of quality at least.

Since then:

Tupac's dead. Biggy's dead. Dre and Snoop haven't put out anything memorable since Doggystyle. Wu Tang lost their edge.

I enjoy Outkast, but most of the stuff out there right now just doesn't do it for me.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:24 PM
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1. ...personally, I'm ready to see it go.

It's not that original anymore anyway. Come on kids (under 20), find something new to define your generation!
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Philosophy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:36 PM
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8. Yeah, it's almost all the same now
Rap club music sucks.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:08 PM
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20. And I'm ready to see Country "Music" GO!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:27 PM
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2. The new stuff isn't very good with a few exceptions
an the old Outkast is much better than what they are doing now, in fact i dont understand what they are doing now.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:34 PM
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6. Now there I can't agree at all. I loved the old stuff very much
but Stankonia and the latest double album are the best things to happen to Hip Hop since El-P produced Cannibal Ox's Cold Vein LP!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:38 PM
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9. I love Stankonia but i haven't really enjoyed
speakerboxx all that much, i bought it the 1st day it was out with high hopes but i'm just not crazy about it. I'm also kind of stuck in old jay-z mode right now, i'll keep listening but i was so turned off by Hey ya i'm hoping i can recover from it.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:40 PM
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10. The song "Rooster" really blew me away
I love the horns. Outkast has always a used horns wonderfully IMHO
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:28 PM
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3. I thought late eighties-early nineties was the best.
People still did a lot of sampling and everything was going in all directions, and new school (what they called it back then) like De La Soul and A Tribe Called Quest was coming out alongside political stuff and classic gangsta rap like the first N.W.A. album.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:33 PM
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4. WHAT!!!!!!
The Roots, Common, De La (still going strong), Redman, Wu Tang, Aesop Rock, Cannibal Ox, Illogic, Nas's early stuff, The Fugees... etc.

You're wrong, sorry.

Hip Hop has only begun!
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:42 PM
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11. el-p, mos def, murs, the neptunes, talib kwali, kanye west..
there are plenty of good artists out there!
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:01 PM
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15. Man Black Star (Talib Kweli & Mos Def & Hi Tek) is enough to prove
my point!
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:04 PM
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17. word..
I was listening to 'Train of Thought' earlier this week.
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Bill Wade Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:45 PM
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13. I agree, to an extent.
Also, I'd add: Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Michael Franti and Spearhead, etc.

But a lot of hip hop or rap is just corporate controlled and is about consuming as much as possible, which isn't a good thing at all.

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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:06 PM
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18. That's what the underground is for.
Fuck that corporate crap!
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Shoedogg Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:33 PM
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5. Rap's been dead since Public Enemy split.
The last decent rap album was Chuck D's solo "Autobiography of Mr. Chuck," and even that was sad compared to his work with P.E.

What do I blame it on?

Some talentless joker named after a candy.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:35 PM
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7. Bullshit!
Plain and simple. The underground is alive and producing the best Hip Hop ever!
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:45 PM
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12. I'm 47, and I think rap peaked about 1992
And I remember rap in 1981. :toast:
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:58 PM
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14. Rap used to SAY something
NWA, Public Enemy, even Ice T's "Colors."

The first Wu Tang album changed my entire world. Pharcyde, Gravediggaz. Tupac. Fugees.

These days all I hear is bragging. Bragging. Every rap song is about bragging. Or just plain retarded.

I'll exempt Eminem from my hatred of the current frat-boy/high-school kid watered down, dumbed down view of today's rap music. Outkast too, 'cuz they fuckin' rock.

We may be on the verge of something really big in the hip-hop world. NWA, the Wu, etc. as the 50's Elvis rock n' roll. Outkast as The Beatles (greatest band that ever was, greatest band that ever will be). Something new and as yet unheard equaling the "peak" of the late 60's/early 70's.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:07 PM
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19. It still does DAMNIT!!!!
Look harder

Http://www.sandboxautomatic.com
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:01 PM
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16. What about Michael Franti and Spearhead?
HMMM?
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Dying Eagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:22 PM
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21. Eminem
is still hot, everything he touches turns to gold or Platinum. D-12 and 50 are good also (thanks again to em). I like to listen to my old CD's Pac, Dre, Snoop. I always liked the old school Gangster Rap.

Most of the new stuff sucks because all they RAp about is how much money they have, who cares. If Pac was alive he would slap these punks
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