Best way to pass a piss test

[HFishbine]

I have a friend (really), who may need to take a urine test in a few weeks. She occassionally smokes marijuana. How much "dry" time is needed to safely pass a urine test? Is there any legitimate method of accelerating the cleansing process?

[chiburb]

1. Casual use...

Should be out of the system within 2 weeks. Daily use can take as long as 30 days. The thing you don't know is the "level" of testing being done. There are some employers who go through the motions and don't look as deeply. Then there are others that would require the full 30 days of abstinance...

[CrispyQ]

2. Here's a site with lot's of info on that topic.

http://www.passyourdrugtest.com/

[LincolnMcGrath]

29. wrong....... trust only in norml

http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4934

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

3. Just go to your local vitamin/herbals store, or GNC if you have one.

There are scores of herbals that will cleanse her system, and most of the people will show her what she wants if she asks for it explicitly.

Golden Seal, for example, works great and fast, but you have to triple the dosage and drink a lot of water.

[LincolnMcGrath]

31. wrong

Herbs, potions, and cleansers have not been proven to work.

[Scout]

35. they look for the presence of goldenseal

[LincolnMcGrath]

36. Read the Norml pages

They claim to test for adulterants. There are literally thousands of chemicals to dilute with, so that claim may be bogus.

[noonwitch]

49. Golden seal is a legal substance

I don't know how effective it is, but you are legally allowed to injest it. Unless the court is sending you for a test, they shouldn't be testing for it to begin with.

Someone told me there was something called "The Stuff" that you can buy at the health food store that was more effective.

[Scout]

52. yes, it's legal...

but if they find it in your urine they "know" you are trying to hide something. I got this info from High Times magazine.

edit: just like water is legal, if you drink so much your urine is too diluted, then they don't accept your donation if it is too diluted.

[gulfcoastliberal]

4. Have her use this stuff

Trust me, it works. And this way there's no inconvenient downtime.



http://www.tests-shop.com/product72/product_info.html

[SoCalDem]

5. Don't use any drugs of any kind.. even OTC

:)

[truthspeaker]

6. If she has a few weeks warning, the best way is to abstain for those weeks

[XNASA]

7. Depends. Not sure what 'occasional' means.

If it means once a month, then just a couple of weeks is probably fine.

But everyday users need at least a month and need to do some heavy 'flushing' during that month.

GNC sells a product (behind the counter) for about $30. It comes in different fruit flavors and you drink it a couple of hours prior to the test. I know a few people that have used it successfully and none who have failed.

[drdigi420]

8. The best way is to order some replacement pee

Kits with belts and tubes for stealthy depositing can be ordered from the internet.

Of course, if possible, I would avoid the test entirely and tell any company that is sick enough to want to look in my piss that "I don't work for perverts"

Piss testing is not just unconstitutional (search n seizure), it weeds out (pardon the pun) qualified employees that use pot. Hard drugs like alcohol, cocaine, heroin, pcp, etc, do not leave traces for very long.

This is all part of the war on people who prefer a relatively safe drug such as cannabis to the dangerous, deadly drugs that are legal.

[stopthegop]

13. it's not unconstitutional if it's a private employer...eom

[Mr.Green93]

9. this might be a good time

to urge your "friend" to seek help for substance abuse

[truthspeaker]

11. ? The OP shows no indication of substance abuse.

You're jumping to conclusions.

[HFishbine]

21. Umm, err

Really, it is a friend. And she imbibes about three or four times a month, only on weekends and only when she doesn't have responsibilities -- not even driving. Does that constitute abuse?

[Mr.Green93]

42. maybe not

bot her drug use is already causing her problems at work.

[truthspeaker]

43. I don't get that from the OP either

[HFishbine]

44. "already causing her problems at work."

That's a moronic statement since you have no evidence of such a thing. You don't even know that she's employed.

[Mr.Green93]

45. then why the drug test?

[HFishbine]

46. Let me ask you a question first

Why the assumptions that she has an abuse problem or that it's causing her problems at work?

[Mr.Green93]

48. having to fake a drug test

is to me a problem at work

[truthspeaker]

51. Yeah, but the problem is with the employer, not the employee

[truthspeaker]

47. Many companies do drug tests of job applicants

and random test of employees. They don't need to suspect drug use to do it.

[Kazak]

10. The ol' switcheroo...

Works like a charm. :D

[GumboYaYa]

12. Water, water, water.....

on the mroning of the test. Drink tons of water. Be sure that by the time of the test you are peeing nothing but water. It dilutes the detectable drug agents to undetectable levels. There is no need to drink tons of water the week before or even a few days before. This does not wash the agents out of your system. Drinking water simply dilutes THC so that it is not detectable. There is no reason to spend a week bloated from over drinking water. It will not help. All that matters is that you drink tons of water the day of the test. You also need to take a multivitamin and drink some cranberry juice to give the pee color. Some testers will invalidate the test if it has no color. Also, never, ever use the first pee of the day for the test. The detectable agents build up over night and the first pee of the day is the most damning. Schedule the test in the afternoon of possible.

[LynneSin]

16. NPONONONONONONONONONONONONONO: DON'T OVERDO WATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ESPECIALLY ON THE DAY OF THE TEST - THAT'S A MAJOR TRIP FOR DRUG TESTERS - I KID YOU NOT!!!!

The company that tested me before I got the job will reject your first test if there is too much water in the sample. The reason is obvious - too much water means that the person is probably hiding something. One of my co-workers had to go back a second time and was told his job application would be rejected if the urine came back too watery a second time. He was fine, but it's clear that too watery urine can be rejected

[pocket]

18. they check for dilution by testing for creatine

so eat some creatine (from any vitamin store) or red meat the night before, then you can drink as much as you want. Take some vitamins to color your pee, too.

[LynneSin]

24. They check by specific gravity

which can't be hidden by colorants, vitamins or other items.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003587.htm
Decreased urine specific gravity may indicate:
Excessive fluid intake
Diabetes insipidus - central
Diabetes insipidus - nephrogenic
Renal failure (that is, loss of ability to reabsorb water)
Pyelonephritis

[pocket]

40. That's a medical test

drug tests dont get that fancy. too expensive.

[jmowreader]

50. If you do 'em in bulk, it gets cheap enough to do

I know LabCorp (http://www.labcorp.com) is using occupational testing--read: pre-employment drug screens and post-incident tests--as a big part of their revenue stream. Probably every large lab does the same thing. It's not hard--with programmable gas chromatographs and mass spectrometers, you dump in the sample, choose "marijuana, cocaine, specific gravity, HCG and opiates" off the little menu that comes up, and get whatever screens you want.

Why test for HCG? If a man gives a sample that shows positive for it, you know he's pulling your chain.

Specific gravity testing isn't that hard or expensive to do. They sell hydrometers marked with the upper and lower allowable s.g. for about $20. Drop the hydrometer in the sample. If it floats above or below the allowable range, reject the sample. Easy and quick.

[GumboYaYa]

28. That is exactly right.

If you only drink water that may cause the test to be thrown out. You have to take a multivitamin and drink cranberry juice. Taking some creatin is a great suggestion as well.

The other suggested solutions have major flaws. The chemical wash things sometimes have detectable agents themselves and some of them are just fly by night nonsense. If it doesn't work what are you gonna do, sue them?

Most tests these days check for goldenseal.

Some tests have observers that watch for replacement pee now. They also test the temperature of the pee so you have to go around with a bag of pee under you arm for a few hours before the test to get the temperature right. That's just gross.

[LincolnMcGrath]

32. B12 will give color

niacin

[johnnie]

14. A kidney transplant

And a blood transfusion could do the trick also. :shrug:

[HFishbine]

27. Har!

We'll put that one at the top of the list.

[LynneSin]

15. If the test is in a couple weeks - quit smoking it now

Sure, they have all these tests and methods to 'clean' the urine, but many drug testers know of these methods and chemicals and can detect them too. Your friend has the benefit of a 'few weeks' until the test. Just quit now for the few weeks (40 days is suppose to be the amount of time until it's cleaned out but you might get away with secondary smoke :shrug: ).

[pocket]

17. this worked for, uh, my friend

take a latex glove, unpowdered, and fill partway with clean urine or even water. Tie off at the top with as little air as possible.

Stuff this down your pants to keep warm.

When you arein the bathroom supposedly peeing in the bottle, tear the end off of a finger of the glove and fill the bottle from that. You can then tie off the finger and put the glove back in your pants.

Of course, this only work when not observed. I've always had privacy when being tested for employment. Legal system & military tests you will be watched :|

Good luck!

[jmowreader]

19. The Whiz Quiz--Ronald Reagan's Worst Legacy

Ronnie and his "just say no!" harpy bitch wife did this to us.

The piss test is totally unconstitutional, of course. It violates the Fifth Amendment's self-incrimination clause, and the entire Fourth Amendment. But Republicans can't read the Constitution, so urine testing is okay.

Pre-employment urine testing totally turns the concept of "innocent until proven guilty" on its head. I support some urine testing--if you cause an accident, urinalysis is a completely justifiable part of the investigation--but not this one.

[sus]

20. I had to take a drug test for a retail job once.

I mean..WTF? When I worked for the feds, I didn't take one and I was dealing with pharmaceuticals..but RETAIL..oooo...test her!

[LynneSin]

26. nothing personal, but you live in Crank Country

It's a forgone conclusion

:eyes:

[sus]

30. The job was closer to Baltimore.

..and stop calling it Crank Country! Heroine and Coke are the drugs of choice around here.

[LynneSin]

37. Heroin and Coke are staples of my area

You're in the boondock, there's probably at least one Crank lab within walking distance of your home.

AND IT'S HEROIN!!!

[sus]

39. pedant!!

[LynneSin]

23. I totally agree with you!!!

and I've never done an illegal drug in my life. But I do think drug testing for hazardous jobs (and I also believe teaching jobs but only because they're taking care of our children) is about all we need to do for drug testing.

I've been tested countless times, never had a problem but I've always felt what was done on personal time is 'nobody's business'

But anyone who puts their hopes & beliefs in trying to scoot the system is setting themselves up for failure. I can't recommend it enough that if you know you're job hunting, just quit about a month before you start looking. After you get your job, go back to what you were doing. It's the only 100% way of passing the test.

I graduated during the Reagan years and there were these stoners at my college that I swore would never get a job because drug testing was becoming the norm. But those guys were damn smart, they all quit about 2 months before graduation, go their jobs lined up and then went back to their old ways after the drug test was overwith.

This economy is too tough to let something dumb like a drug test keep you from your job. It's a damn sucky system, but maybe we can make it better down the line.

[HFishbine]

22. Mods

Sorry about posting in the wrong forum. I wasn't sure. Thanks for moving.

[ronatchig]

25. It is high time

that everyone refuse to partispate in this piss nazi bullshit,
I have already taken the plunge myself. I have steadfastly refused for 6 years now.
If everyone were to realize this is not about drug free workplaces but about fascist conditioning we would all be better off. I have lost 3 jobs over this issue(refusal). I have also refused hire -in piss tests on 2 occasions. It really stuns the nazi bastards when you tell them no. I simply tell them it is downright un American.and will not take part in it.
Beleive me I know this creates a hardship to stand for my beliefs but the only way to stop it is to stop it. Plus I really get a kick out of the dumbfounded looks I get from the HR types.
And while I am on my soapbox I think it way past time for a nation wide walkout to protest the conditions the fascistrs are imposing on our country. Im talkin a complete shutdown too.

[LincolnMcGrath]

34. National Screw the Shareholder Days

eff um


I'm with ya!

[GumboYaYa]

33. Here is a link one of the best resources available on this subject:

http://www.marijuana.com/4-6b.php3#6

Go there and they will analyze all the suggestions given here and you can be truly informed about this issue.

[LincolnMcGrath]

38. I'll check it out, here is one of the best sources.

http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4934

[HFishbine]

41. Thanks, everybody.

I appreciate the advice!