Florida Teacher Accused Of Sex With 14-Year-Old Boy

[ps1074]

Reading teacher Debra Beasley LaFave, 23, is a newlywed who is accused of performing oral sex on a 14-year-old student at Greco Middle School twice in the past month.

The 2002 graduate of the University of South Florida was married 11 months ago.



http://www.local10.com/news/3457211/detail.html

That is one hot teacher no doubt.

[Goldmund]

1. Some boys just have all the luck...

[Champ]

2. A 23 year old newlywed? 14 year old?

:wtf:

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

3. The poor boy will need years of therapy...

...to wipe that joyous grin off his face! :evilgrin:

[JVS]

4. Sick behavior

[slackmaster]

5. The double-standard on this makes me sick to my stomach

:puke:

Switch genders of the participants in this alleged tryst. Would anyone be making light of it or suggssting that the male teacher must be "hot"? I think not, and it's all the more hypocritical considering how much more emotionally mature a typical 14-year-old girl is than a typical 14-year-old boy.

Maybe the kid is "lucky", but if the allegations are correct that teacher is in DEEP SHIT career-wise and legally.

[JVS]

6. I agree.

[mac56]

8. Me too.

No one would be going off on how hot a male teacher was if he had done this with an underage girl.

[Richardo]

10. Me three.

If convicted, she should go to jail and/or have to register as a sex offender.

[JayS]

101. If it was a male teacher with a fourteen year old girl the teacher...

...would not have a prayer when the case goes to court.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

9. Nobody is questioning the teacher shouldn't be in deep shit

The consequences for the minor, on the other hand, are WAY WAY WAY different than if genders were reversed. Society IS lopsided like that, sadly. This is what's being noticed by the posts here.

[JVS]

11. Joking about sex-crimes is poor form.

[Deja Q]

90. I was the victim of such crimes and I can joke about it:

Gotta joke about it. Otherwise it's too damn depressing.

[tigereye]

14. yeah you are right there is a weird double standard

but face it adults shouldn't be having sex with 14 year olds, period. Actually there is a novel about this topic, called "What Was She Thinking." Just came out in paperback.

[ps1074]

12. what double standart?

I just posted the article with the pic and said obviously the teacher is a hottie. It is a fact. At least for me.

I never expressed any oppinion about the allegations or about teacher's deeds. Nor did I say the kid got lucky.

[Goldmund]

13. You're shooting the messenger

If it were a girl, she would have been _maybe_ lucky. Since it's a boy, he's _probably_ lucky. This is because purely empirically speaking, most 14 year old boys would give their right hand to sleep with their 23-year old teachers -- while the same couldn't be said of most 14-year old girls. I don't think there's an intrinsic difference between genders in this respect, and I attribute that fact to social conditioning, and I think that it's unfortunate there's a difference -- but one exists and that's a fact.

But in the end, of course, it depends on the person, no matter what gender they are. Nobody thinks that the moment you turn 18 you're mature enough to vote, or have sex, whereas the day before you weren't. It's just a semi-arbitrary line that the society draws to protect those who aren't mature. But in the end, it all depends on the case -- some 14 year old boys wouldn't be harmed by something like this, and some would. Legally, you're right that the teacher is in deep shit -- but don't expect me to fawn because there's a social taboo on sex with minors. 9 year olds is one thing -- 14 year olds, well, it depends on the case.

[Richardo]

15. ...and moral relativism once again rears its ugly head.

Sex with a minor is against the law, period. If convicted, she should pay all the consequences a convicted male would.

And, using your argument, why is a 9-year-old different than a 14-year old? Drawing a "semi-arbitrary line" there, aren't you?

[Goldmund]

22. I'll be the first to call myself a moral relativist.

Also, the line is not "semi-arbitrary". The line is drawn by biology. 9 year olds can't have kids and don't have direct sexual urges, and 14 year olds do. 9 year olds don't fantasize about sex, 14 year olds do.

That said, I agree that she should be prosecuted if she broke the law, since that's how our society works. After all, there's no metric to quantify the level of maturity and we as a society are forced to draw semi-arbitrary lines like this (many 14 year olds are mature enough to drive, and many 22 year olds aren't, for example -- but until we have a sci-fi "maturity meter" we have to draw the line). But that doesn't automatically trigger a moral outrage in me.

[truthspeaker]

64. illegal does not equal immoral

It's not immoral just because you say it is.

Life would be easier if 14-year-old boys and 14-year-old girls handled sexuality the same way but the fact is they don't.

[slackmaster]

19. About a month ago there was a thread about a 12-year-old girl

...who got caught having intercourse with a 17-year-old male when the couple who had hired her as a babysitter came home early. A lot of people tried to cut the kid some slack since the sex was consensual (although legally it could not have been).

It turned out the boy had been molesting the girl since she was 10.

I think the behavior of the 23-year-old married teacher is bizarre, she has serious emotional problems, and there is probably more to the story. I don't see anything light or humorous about this story. I don't mean to shoot the messenger, but IMO it's not Lounge material since a child was involved in a serious crime, however much he undoubtedly enjoyed it.

[Xithras]

61. Well, I posted that thread, and I don't see anyone being easy on her

There is a bit of difference between an adult having forced sexual relations with a preteen girl, and a teenage boy having voluntary (and probably eagerly anticipated) sex with an older teacher. I also seem to recall that, even in that thread, the majority supported telling somebody, correctly recognizing that some sort of intervention was needed. Nobody is arguing that intervention wasn't needed here as well...the argument is simply that the status of the victim is slightly different because of the age and sex.

However, in both cases the older person SHOULD be prosecuted for their crimes. Pedophilia is a serious offense...a psychological disease really, which causes people to see children as sexual objects. These people should be prosecuted and locked up for what they have done.

The humor and light heartedness in this thread originated from our perception of the victim. Most of us would have loved to have experienced that kind of thing at that age, so it's difficult to feel sympathy for him. That's unfortunate if he was damaged by the experience, but the story laid out in this article simply relates that the boy got a hummer from a hottie lit teacher. so our typical hormone driven (and admittedly slightly adolescent) reaction is "Lucky Him!"

Blame nature. Blame society. Blame the teacher. But it's hard to blame people for simply being honest.

[slackmaster]

62. I meant some people wanted to go easy on the BOY

Nobody had any negative feelings about the 12-year-old victim IIRC.

[seaglass]

99. And no one is considering what the boy has to go through

when this whole drama plays out in court. I wonder if he'll think it's worthwhile then - if he ever did.

[Xithras]

17. As she should be, BUT...

There's a BIG difference between teenage boys and teenage girls. Teen girls (and many adult women in general) see sex as a deeply emotional experience and as something that should be used to cement and strengthen a relationship. When an authority figure uses his power to coerce her into sex, it can cause psychological problems that take years to work out. If she's never had sex before, there are also the physical issues...she's "lost" her chance to have that intimate first experience forever, having had her virginity stolen through coercion or force.

Teen boys, on the other hand, rarely attach any kind of emotional value to sex. The hormones are raging, and they simply want to blow their loads wherever they can, and as often as they can (as they are biologically programmed to do). Unless he was forced into this, the only lasting damage that is likely to be done to this boy is the lowering of the taboos against having sex with older women. There are no physical alterations to a boys body following sexual intercourse, so no physical damage is done, and the lack of emotional value that the typical teen boy attaches to sex pretty much ensures that the odds of psychological damage are low (not nonexistant, but low). If anything, this kid's probably been bragging to his friends about the lit teacher giving him hummers (probably how she got caught). It's a trophy for him, and little else.

A double standard? Yes, but it originates from the biological and emotional differences between young teen boys and young teen girls. They are different, and react differently. The teacher should still be jailed for her actions, just as if she were a man raping a 14 year old girl, but our reaction to the boy himself is justifiably different. I'm sure the LAST thing he's interested in is public sympathy or a counselor...he's probably most depressed about the fact that he doesn't get any more hummers.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

21. Nailed! (nt)

[slackmaster]

23. Point taken

I'm sure I would have enjoyed getting a hummer at 14 no matter who performed it on me; and I don't believe it would have done me any emotional harm as long as it wasn't a relative or something.

[MrSlayer]

28. Dead on.

That's exactly right, every boy's dream.

[mac56]

29. How do you know he won't suffer any lasting damage?

An authority figure violated her role of responsibility toward him. Tell me that won't screw this kid up at least a little.

Add on edit: Whether the kid enjoyed it or not isn't part of the equation.

[StopThief]

42. In the vast majority of cases. . . .

I would say it wouldn't screw up the kid at all.

[Xithras]

44. I didn't say that damage was impossible

Just not likely. Most teen boys DREAM of screwing one of their teachers at some point (for me, it was my 24 year old history teacher when I was 15), and see the fulfillment of that dream as a good thing. The whole "authority figure" concept rarely enters their minds. If it does any damage, it will simply be that he now sees other female teachers as potentially available where before they were simply fantasies. Could that be a problem? Yes, it could, but what are the odds that he'll find ANOTHER teacher capable of giving in to her pedophilic urges to blow a young boy? In other words, any damage that he may have suffered is minor, and unlikely to do any real harm (it's more of a shift in perception than real emotional damage anyway).

As I said in my first post, since boys attach little emotional value to sex, it's hard to damage them emotionally by having sex with them. The teacher SHOULD have the book thrown at her for doing this and SHOULD spend years in jail because ANY adult who sees young minors as sex objects is a predator. My point was simply that, from the boys perspective, this is probably a trophy notch that he'll be bragging to his friends about until he's in college.

[mac56]

49. We all assume the kid liked it.

And probably he did. But consider the possibility that he didn't. Maybe he thought it was kind of weird and creepy to have a grown woman, a teacher, come after him for this, no matter how hot she was. Not outside the realm of possibilities.

[Xithras]

55. Is it possible that he didn't like it? Of course.

He could have been very religious. He might have found older women to be a complete turnoff. Heck, he might even be gay. There are a lot of possibilities as to why he might not have enjoyed it, but as you admitted, they aren't likely. Most teen boys would give their left arms to have sex with a real, living, breathing woman, and the fact that it's a hot blonde teacher would just increase the thrill. It doesn't change the fact that she should be prosecuted, it just means that he's unlikely to be "damaged" by the experience.

If the boy was one of the minority that didn't enjoy it, I'm sure there will be plenty of counseling opportunities for him. The reaction of the men on this board, however, is simply acknowledgment that most of US dreamed of having this exact scenario happen to us in high school, only to see our dreams go unfulfilled.

As crass as this sounds, this kid just gave hope to an entirely new generation of horny 14 year olds.:evilgrin:

[mac56]

71. What if he's afraid of getting the shit beat out of him...

by the teacher's husband? Maybe she tells hubby that the kid forced her into it. Also a possibility.

[JayS]

107. I think it is his classmates that will be administrating the beatings.

[mac56]

111. Don't be so sure.

It's quite likely there's some mind games being played by Ms. Smokin' Hot Teacher and her newlywed husband around this. After enough hints and innuendo, I can see him following her to beat the shit out of any male she spends any time with (let alone "quality time").

[JayS]

112. I think that it is now Mrs. Smokin' Hot Teacher. :)

I am sure the whole story will come out eventually. I can mostly just compare to my own memories of my younger days.

[FizzFuzz]

76. terrific!

<<As crass as this sounds, this kid just gave hope to an entirely new generation of horny 14 year olds.>> Just what we need. More little boys with a sense of sexual entitlement, as if they don't get enough messages of that sort from everywhere. :eyes:

[StopThief]

41. Ding! Ding! Ding!!!!!!!

We have a winner.

[Rabrrrrrr]

59. Everything you said - on the nosie!!

Well spoken. First thing I thought when I read the headline: "Damn kid gets all the luck. I never had that when I was in school."

[HEyHEY]

106. hmmm

"The hormones are raging, and they simply want to blow their loads wherever they can"

You just brought back a "whack" of memories

badoom cha!

[Bombtrack]

27. It's not a double standard. MEN AND WOMEN ARE DIFFERENT

Particularly in how sex affects them and rape. 99 percent of 14 year old boys would do anything to bang that teacher. It's a dream come true.

I'm wondering which sex you come from.

[slackmaster]

32. I am male, and I don't deny the obvious differences between the genders

I'm upset because a child allegedly was used for sex. A 14-year-old boy is NOT A MAN!!!

[Bombtrack]

43. First of all we don't know this 14 year old, but there is a very high

probability that your semantic "not a man" argument is not backed up by any scientific or societal averages. A much higher percentage of 14 year olds have had sex in America than in years past. I'd bet about 20-25 percent. and in males about 75 percent more would have lost their virginity if GIVEN THE CHOICE. Being a "man" in terms of being able to keep a job, live on your own, drive around etc, is not anywhere near the same thing as being capable and willing and all about wanting to have sex.

[slackmaster]

45. I have no problem with the boy's alleged actions

My issue is with the 23-year-old teacher's alleged criminal behavior.

She must have known he was 14.

[Bombtrack]

51. It's a criminal behavior because of a stupid politically correct law

As stupid a law as being arrested for having a joint or having stippers unable to go more than 6 feet near customers in some municipalities. To appease nosy judging people like you obviously

[slackmaster]

53. Nosy, judging???

If the allegations are true,

- The teacher is an idiot because she knowingly broke the law NO MATTER HOW YOU OR I FEEL ABOUT IT.

- If the kid was MY son I'd be pissed as hell.

Or perhaps I should ask if you really think it's OK for a female SCHOOL TEACHER to be administering BJs to her teenage STUDENTS while they are AT SCHOOL. I don't.

[Nay]

78. Can't laugh at this, either. My stepson, at age 15, was latched onto

by a 24-year-old woman who proceeded to get pregnant, send him off to work, beat him for his paycheck when he got home, etc. etc.

I don't think my poor stepson had a smile on his face. When we called the police when we found out about this (we live far away and are not the custodial parents), the cops just laughed. Wish they had taken it seriously, cuz now the kid is really messed up.

[slackmaster]

80. What a nightmare!

I hope he recovers from his life disaster. No CHILD deserves that kind of grief. Only we MEN should have to bear that kind of burden.

[Nay]

92. Thanks for your concern. The poor guy is about 31 now, and is

in a 'relationship' with a woman who stays home, watches TV, sends him off to work and appropriates his paycheck. . .we, of course, are not 'allowed' to visit or see him. It did all begin with his crazy mother, who pulled all kinds of awful stuff, and we were simply never able to break through the insanity in any way. The courts were unsympathetic, the cops bored. And now, of course, he is a grown man who is expected to fix himself somehow. Sigh.

[FizzFuzz]

81. well, here's a reality that all the hottie jokes certainly don't consider.

sad! hard to believe! kind of mind-boggling actually.

[Xithras]

7. Where were these teachers when I was 14?

Some people have all the luck. I had to settle for dirty mags and feeling up my sisters friends at 14, and this kids getting hummers from the hot, blonde lit teacher. /envy

[gWbush is Mabus]

18. at least your sister had friends

[richmwill]

65. Exactly my opinion

Where was she when I was in school?

[OldEurope]

16. Makes me wonder.

My son is 14, and ...
Nno.
No way. He´s still playing childish games with his friends, I did not yet find any vestiges in his linen or clothes.

:evilgrin:

[MrSlayer]

33. Well just don't barge in on him on the bathroom.

If you'd like to cling to the idea that he isn't a normal teenaged boy.

[OldEurope]

38. I´ve no doubt.

Just wondering, how a 14-year-old could ever be attractive to woman above 12.
Someone wants to ruin that teacher´s reputation, or the boy is a blowhard.
(LOL, what a funny expression to use in this context!)

:D

[Xithras]

48. Pedophiles are psychologically damaged

As the parent of young children, I can't see how anyone would view them as sexual objects, and yet we constantly hear of cases where people are convicted for molesting children from newborn all the way up to 18. It's a different mental state, and is the main reason why she should be locked up. Even if she did no real damage to this boy, no adult with those sexual persuasions should be allowed anywhere near a child...she should be imprisoned.

[GOPisEvil]

20. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Enjoy your jail time Mrs. LaFave. I feel bad for your new husband who has to deal with the fallout of his marriage to a pedophile.

[slackmaster]

24. Ah, at last someone utters the P word

Pedophile, and that is exactly what the woman is if the allegations are true.

[GOPisEvil]

25. Allow me to modify my remarks here.

She is an ALLEGED pedophile. Sorry about that. We still have trials (for now).

[OKNancy]

84. No..not a pedophile

A pedophile is someone who is aroused by a Prepubescent child. This boy obviously has developed secondary sexual characteristics.

Not defending the woman..it's just a matter of the correct terms.

[ps1074]

26. your post made me think...

The husband's perspective...

Poor husband - he must feel like a total loser. Imagine your wife blowing not you but some 14 year old? He won't dare show at work or neighbourhood for months. He can well move to another county or state.

[slackmaster]

30. Hey, maybe she's a nympho and he was getting plenty

The story is far from complete, though it's a safe bet he's not happy right now.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

31. Bingo. HERE's the one who need counseling.

Aka THE REAL VICTIM.

[amazona]

34. whoa -- what about innocent until proven guilty?

I just read the link and nothing there to convince me that the teacher is guilty of anything. I need to see some evidence in these cases. Some boys do brag and make up stories about getting sex with older women. I would not be a teacher or a baby-sitter today. It just isn't worth it. Back in the 1970s I babysat for a 9 year old (!) who told me straight-faced that my sister was having sex with him. Now, I knew damn well that he was lying. (The fact that he also claimed to be having sex with several other girls or women would have clued me in if nothing else.) But if this boy was a child today, there would probably be mass arrests and claims of a baby-sitting ring molesting the kiddies right and left. After all, he had a little buddy who sat there and echoed his wild stories. So you have two kids saying it, so it must be true, right? Argh!

Abuse happens, sure it does. I was abused. But it is just as abusive to try to destroy a girl or woman because she is attractive and won't put out. And there are boys who would try to do this. They are not all sugar and spice any more than girls are!

We have no idea of what happened or who is to blame here. My instinct is to assume that a pretty newlywed is not going to be interested in a 14 year old boy.

But neither of us has any proof, let's wait and make up our minds after we have more information.

[GOPisEvil]

35. I modified my remarks above.

You are correct. She is an alleged pedophile.

[amazona]

36. thanks... NT

.

[FizzFuzz]

97. thanks, this is an important post

I just finished reading a book called "We Need to Talk About Kevin" by Lionel Shriver. The narrator is the mother of a child psychopath who committed a mass murder. Among the many calculated cruelties the kid does in the story is his deliberate fabrication that a female teacher molested him; he is backed up in the story by his fawning friend.

The entire story was harrowing and incredibly realistic, I recommend it, though I was shaking at the end. The idea of purposeful lies and the destruction of an adult's life, plus the willingness to be manipulated on the part of suggestible authorities is absolutely realistic. It happens. I agree with your point too about women and girls who don't put out--some guys do seek revenge for that.

[Bombtrack]

37. This kid is going to live his life as the coolest kid ever in his town

It's the hight of stupidity to call the teacher an abuser or something like that. She's an adulterer and although she now need's to be fired because the students would never stop talking about it and of course parent's will raise a shit fit if she doesn't but this shouldn't be a sex crime. This kid's self esteem did nothing but skyrocket I can garentee you when he got some of that. Calling the fact that this would be utterly morally wrong if the genders were reversed is not recognition of a double standard it's recognition of the fact that males and females have different standards and will always have different standards in a healthy society when it comes to certain things. And trying to break down any and all of those standards to a certain point is ludicrous.

Guys who sleep around being called players and girls who do it being called sluts an unjust double standard? Yes. It's incumbent apon men to realize that women who love sex make the world a better place, and this incident is connected to that. Of course she shouldn't have done it when she was married but that's her own personal issue with her husband.

[slackmaster]

40. An adulterer is a married person who has sex with another adult

...who does not happen to be his or her spouse.

Adults who are sexually attracted to children are pedophiles.

Adults who have sex with children are child molesters.

[Bombtrack]

46. He's a teenager. And she was a teenager 3 years ago

Child abuse is wrong because it scars a child's psyche, and it's usually not concensual. We cannot be sure about exactly what happened here, but I think their is a very high probability that this was concensual and that that this kid's self esteem skyrocketed.

He does not sound like he meets the actual definition of child, not YOUR definition that you want to aply to him, because your argument only works in that abstract

Main Entry: child
Pronunciation: 'chI(&)ld
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural chil·dren /'chil-dr&n, -d&rn/
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English cild; akin to Gothic kilthei womb, and perhaps to Sanskrit jathara belly
Date: before 12th century
1 a : an unborn or recently born person b : dialect : a female infant
2 a : a young person especially between infancy and youth b : a childlike or childish person c : a person not yet of age
3 : usually childe /'chI(&)ld/ archaic : a youth of noble birth
4 a : a son or daughter of human parents b : DESCENDANT

[slackmaster]

47. Three years ago HE was 11

I don't care what his actual level of maturity may be or how much he may have enjoyed his 15 seconds of fun.

[Bombtrack]

50. Exactly, you don't care about maturity levels, when this arguement is ALL

about maturity level. Although your argument is all about a prudish victorian abstract and denial or forgetfullness about what you wanted when you were a 14 year old and what you would have given, unless their was something abnormal about you, to bang this teacher.

Ok, this was litterally a Van Halen video come true for one kid, but our whacked out society of people like you has to ruin this teachers life.

[mac56]

52. No, this teacher ruined her own life.

I'll thank you not to pin that on those of us who think this is wrong.

[slackmaster]

56. No, the argument is about the LAW

Although your argument is all about a prudish victorian abstract and denial or forgetfullness about what you wanted when you were a 14 year old and what you would have given, unless their was something abnormal about you, to bang this teacher.

One more time,

I have no problem with the BOY'S involvement in this alleged situation. But I do appreciate your amateurish effort to psychoanalyze me over the 'Net. It's always entertaining to meet another mind-reader online.

..but our whacked out society of people like you has to ruin this teachers life.

It's a shame you are unable to discuss this incident without resorting to ad hominem arguments, but IMO if the allegations are true the teacher is a menace to society and deserves whatever is coming to her from the justice system.

Peace and tranquility be with you.

:hippie:

[Nikia]

77. A teacher who does this is very wrong

Even if you don't think she should go to prision, how can you not agree that she should not be allowed to teach. Of course adolescents have fantasies about hot teachers. It is very wrong that she took advantage of this boy. A person who does this has no business in an authority or mentor role to children.

[pagerbear]

39. I've mentioned this before

Some time in the mid-90s a researcher at Princeton (I think) published a paper suggesting that the lasting effects of adult-minor sex vary greatly depending on the ages of the parties involved, particularly the minors; whether there was any coercion or force involved; and the sexes of the parties involved, among other factors. I don't know the researcher's name or the name of the paper. (Maybe someone can find this with the help of an academic database?)

Once conservative legislators got wind of this (none of them read the paper, of course), they loudly decried the very idea of the paper, accusing the researcher of supporting child abuse and incest, among other things. They tried to cut funding to the researcher's institution and tried to get the researcher's tenure revoked. All because of the suggestion that every case is different.

The more things change, the things stay the same, I suppose.

[DrWeird]

54. I think I remember that study.

The problem the conservatives had was the conclusion that most victims of child sex abuse grow up to eventually lead healthy productive lives.

Some how they saw this as an endorsement of child sex abuse.

[Donkeyboy75]

57. Yep. It sure sucks when facts get in the way of ideology.

Stupid science.

[DrWeird]

58. More than that...

you'd think a study showing victims of a horrible crime can recover would be good news.

It's almost like the American Taliban wants these victims to be irrepairably damaged.

[slackmaster]

60. I agree with you completely

Ironically the right often accuses the left of being the home of "professional victims". That sword cuts both ways.

[solinvictus]

63. What 14 year old boy would complain???

God, I would've paid $$ at that age.

[mac56]

67. Maybe a 14 year old boy who thinks an adult coming on to him is creepy.

Maybe a 14 year old boy who is gay.
Maybe a 14 year old boy who is religious.
Maybe a 14 year old boy who's had adults violate him before.

Lots of possibilities.

Add on edit:

Maybe a 14 year old boy who's afraid he's going to get the shit beat out of him by the teacher's husband.

[slackmaster]

70. Good post - SOMETHING made him tell his parents about it

Maybe he thought it would be cool to brag to mom and dad, but I doubt it.

[oldcoot]

85. Maybe a 14 year-old boy who is afraid of failing her class

If this woman is guilty, then she should be held accountable for her actions because her behavior was not only illegal but unethical.

One of the big reasons why it is unethical for a teacher to have sex with his or her student is because of the power that teachers have over their students' lives. Teachers can make their students' lives a living hell if they so desire. For this reason, teachers should behave like professionals and not view their students as potential sex partners.

[NewJeffCT]

72. he wasn't complaining, he was bragging

I read another article on this, and it said that his aunt overheard him bragging to friends how he had had sex with "the hot teacher" at school...

[mac56]

74. Could have been bragging.

Could also have been telling friends about it because he thought it was weird, and was afraid to speak up about it.

Aunt heard it and told the parents? He still could have denied it to them. But for some reason, he wanted to tell them about it.

[Deja Q]

95. I was sexually assaulted and never complained. While I did joke about it,

I applaud the boy for speaking up - unless he led her on, somehow.

[name not needed]

66. How come I never get these teachers?

:)

[JohnKleeb]

69. youre unlucky

:shrug:

[ScreamingMeemie]

68. That is a sick story. That woman, and the CHILD need help.

Lots of it. Think about if it was your son. I'd be enraged. It's not a laughing matter.

[Bombtrack]

83. He's a teenager

And this isn't anybody here's son.

[ScreamingMeemie]

88. Maybe so, but a teenager is a child. I look at my daughter and my son

and if anyone ever attempts this with either....man... Sorry, it's sick, very very sick.

[Lars39]

91. I agree. She's a predator.

[Kat45]

73. I'm curious as to why the boy told his parents.

My first reaction to the story that it was a boy's fantasy come true, but if that were the case, why would he tell his parents? He'd be telling all his friends, bragging to them, not telling his parents. I'm also curious as to what the boy looks like. Some 14-year-olds still look like a young child; others are tall and mannish looking. Saying that is not to excuse the teacher, but it could explain some sort of attraction. (If the two of them were 10 years older, it wouldn't be seen as a big deal, particularly if the genders were reversed.) Someone else here made a good point that we don't know if this actually happened; kids do make things up (for various reasons). I think we have to have more information before drawing any conclusions.

[Nikia]

75. Teenagers are impulsive, adults have responsibility

The boy or may not have liked it. Yes, there is a good chance he did. His hormones are probably raging. Teenagers of both genders have fantasies about having sex and or other physical acts with attractive teachers. If the teacher of their fantasy comes onto them, they probably will jump at the chance without considering the consequences, especially since they are already condition to do what the teacher tells them to do.
We assume that teenage boys attatch little emotional value to sex. We assume that they want non committal sex. We assume that they would never regret any sex act that does not result in disease or pregnancy. We don't know the boy and his attitudes. He may place some emotional value on sex. He might be interested in having real relationships with girls close to his own age now or in the near future. Depending on the social climate of the school, it might not really be that cool, especially to the girls, to be known as the guy involved with the teacher.
I had sex for the first time when I was 15. I believed that I should not have sex until I was in a committed relationship but my hormones won instead. I did something impulsive that I regretted. We should not assume that wasn't the case with him too. The guy who I was with was only two years older. We had equal responsibilty to decide whether or not to have sex (although not legally in some states). In this case, the teacher is an adult and had the responsibilty to fully consider the consequences of the sex act. Even if the boy asked her to perform the act, she was still wrong because as an adult she has the responsibility to say no.

[mac56]

79. thank you

very good answer

[JayS]

82. I hope the kid is in the same circumstances that I was in at...

...roughly the same age. I most likely would have never gone to college if I had not gotten "close" to a very special teacher.

[RebelYell]

86. I saw this on Court TV earlier...

....she confessed that it was a turn on for her, that it was illegal.

[Padraig18]

87. Where was she, when I was 14?

I might've been bi-, if I'd had a teacher like her!

:evilgrin:

[Deja Q]

89. Who, so to speak, did the squealing?

She wouldn't have leaked the news.

It's the male version of Monica!

Also, why would she want to hoover a 14 year old who's not, um, developed? She's got a hubby with a fully fledged hot dog. Don't tell me the 14 year old had a footlong compared to hubby's hors d'oevours?

[baldguy]

93. The Smoking Gun has the police report

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0628042teach1.html

and pix:

[Zomby Woof]

94. she is a sexual abuser

And you're excited by how "hot" she is? :puke:

I am following the DU rules... I am following the DU rules.. count to 10...

[ScreamingMeemie]

96. Oh God I love you Zomby!!!

We're on the same page!!! If the situation were reversed all would be horrified, but this is seen as a good thing? I'll add my puking smiley. :puke:

[Zomby Woof]

98. I remember my sex drive at 14

And I know what my fantasies were. But that doesn't mean it would have been right if they were fulfilled. An adult should KNOW THEIR BOUNDARIES. Teen boys are not expected to know, not that early.

What is normal for a 14 year old boy to fantasize about DOES NOT EQUAL what a 23 year old woman (any adult woman) should fantasize about! Let her stick to the UPS man or something...

(I am ZombyGrumpy!)

[JayS]

100. I wonder if the fourteen year old is under armed guard. I'm...

...willing to bet that there is a line of fourteen year old classmates just waiting for their turn to pulverize him.

[jmowreader]

102. There's always the chance she didn't do it...

and the kid is making this up to "get back" at the teacher.

I didn't pull this one out of the air. I recall a few years ago that a male teacher flunked a couple of female students from a class they needed to graduate; they "got their revenge" by accusing the teacher of raping them. It turned out to be total bullshit, the two students went to jail for making a false accusation, but the teacher's life was destroyed. Apparently, the accusation was splashed across the front page above the fold in huge letters, the photo of him being frog-marched to jail was above the fold and real big, the lurid accusations were above the fold, but when they admitted they lied the story of that, and of his release from jail, were on page 7.

I also remember a place called the McMartin Preschool. For some reason, one of the kids told Mommy that "Mrs. McMartin touched me down there" and next thing you know, the Child Sex Abuse Team had extracted allegations of shit they won't even put in the weird pornos the off-limits dirty-book store on Bragg Boulevard has. None of it was true, Mrs. McMartin hadn't touched the kid down there, but two people's lives were destroyed based on false accusations.

Then look at Clinton and Bush. Clinton got a hummer, so he was above the fold for years. Bush...well, we all know what Bush did. Or maybe we don't, but if that shit makes the news at all it's on page 7.

Sex sells scandal!

For all we know, this lit teacher gave Junior here a failing grade on his Paradise Lost essay and he decided to get her back. So he's in the locker room with his buds and they're talking about blowjobs. Even in this enlightened age most 14-year-olds have never had a blowjob, so it's all conjecture at this point, but our little friend here says "yeah, Mrs. LaFave gave me a couple of hummers, it was really cool." And next thing you know he's the fuckin' hero of the eighth grade--not only because he's the first kid in school to get a blowjob, but because he got it from the truly hot Mrs. LaFave.

Someone needs to have a serious talk with the TV station over this fuckin' picture:


You look at this picture and what do you think? "Yeah, she sucks cock. She fuckin' did it." But you look at this picture...


and she doesn't look like someone who gets her jollies sucking off minors.

I found another story about the LaFave scandal; it reads like something out of Penthouse Forum: the guy's cousin drove them around while he was screwing her in the back seat, the teacher blew him in her bed while the cousin sat downstairs watching videos...

I'm sorry. It could have happened, but this screams "bullshit" to me.

[johnnie]

104. The police report is on the smoking gun

The kid gave some information that seems to point to the fact that he is telling the truth. I can't really tell by looking at a picture of her if she is guilty or not.

[Loonman]

103. Criminal, if proven guilty

Natch.

[noonwitch]

105. I never understand why adults want to get involved with teenagers

They are so annoying and whiny-I love them and all, but to see one as a boyfriend? It's not ick, it's more of an ugh.

[JayS]

114. Maybe some attempt to relive/regain youth? n/t

n/t

[JayS]

108. Is this still on CourtTV? n/t

n/t

[LincolnMcGrath]

109. I had an affair with a teacher

She 22yr old band/chorus instructor
Me 18yr old senior fresh outta Boot Camp.


My Dad knew
My Mom didn't

[JayS]

113. Me too and the parents knew. n/t

n/t

[yellowcanine]

110. Couldn't she just say she felt good afterward so it is ok? According to

Dick Cheney, if it feels good, it is ok to do it.

[JayS]

115. Update

June 30, 2004, 7:07AM
Teacher accused of sex with student
Woman faces charges in two counties
Associated Press
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2654189



TAMPA, Fla. -- A 23-year-old middle-school teacher was charged with having sex with a 14-year-old student in a classroom, at her apartment and, once, in a vehicle while the teen's 15-year-old cousin drove.

Detectives said that the cousins provided matching statements incriminating Debra Beasley Lafave and that the 14-year-old described Lafave's apartment and her tattoos and birthmarks.

Lafave, who teaches reading in the Tampa suburb of Temple Terrace, was arrested there last week on lewd and lascivious battery charges, accused of having sex with the teen earlier this month at her apartment and in a portable classroom at Greco Middle School.

She was out on bond on those charges when she turned herself in Monday in Marion County, about 80 miles north of Tampa, where the cousin lives. Marion County authorities say Lafave had sex with the student in the back of her sport utility vehicle while the cousin drove them around the Ocala area. There, she is charged with lewd and lascivious battery and exhibition. She was released on $25,000 bail.

*SNIP*