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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 06:38 AM
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Dumbest conspiracy theories?
Two main ones spring to mind:

1. the theory that NASA never went to the moon
2. the theory that LBJ was behind JFK assisination

Post your contributions here.
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 06:42 AM
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1. Ever heard of David Icke?
You can't get any loonier than this man.

http://www.davidicke.com/
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 06:43 AM
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3. Was he the sports presenter who went nuts on the Wogan show?
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 06:45 AM
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5. The very one
Edited on Thu Aug-05-04 06:52 AM by Thankfully_in_Britai
And we haven't even mentioned the 12 foot high lizards yet!

Incidentally, can I reccomend Them: Adventures with Extremists by Jon Ronson for more reading on the tin foil hat crowd?
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 06:54 AM
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8. thanks, I'll check it out n/t
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 06:43 AM
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2. Illuminati & Christians
There's one group of conspiracy theories that the Illuminati created America to usher in a new world order--including the suggestion that George Washington was killed a replaced by his German doppelganger, Baron Weishaupt.

An even nuttier theory is that the country's founders were all Christians and wanted to create a Christian nation.
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 06:46 AM
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6. ho hum
An even nuttier theory is that the country's founders were all Christians and wanted to create a Christian nation.

You wouldn't mean the Pilgrim Fathers would you?
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:42 AM
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23. The pilgrims were settlers, not nation founders
Our country's founders were Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Ben Franklin, Thomas Paine, James Madison, George Washington etc.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 11:26 PM
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39. I will hum, but please don't call me "ho" any more
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 06:44 AM
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4. The
NASA one for sure, thats a goofy one but the most recent goofiness was that one of the planes that hit the twin towers was supposedly armed with missiles. Man thats goofiness at its finest.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 06:53 AM
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7. Any of the myriad of theories on DU's 9/11 Forum...
1) The planes that flew into the WTC towers fired missiles first to guarantee they'd actually penetrate the buildings.

2) Those planes were actually "replacements". The real planes were diverted to a secret military airbase where the passengers and crew were unloaded, all put on UAL93, and shot down over PA. The planes were then flown over the ocean and ditched.

3) These same planes also had "fuel sprayers" that sprayed atomized fuel just before the crashes to make the explosions more "Hollywoodesque".

4) An F-16 caused the Pentagon damage. AAL77 was there, but flew OVER the Pentagon and landed at Reagan Airport.

5) The United jets that crashed on 9/11 didn't really crash and are still flying, as evidenced by the FAA Registration Database. (The FAA doesn't remove planes from the database unless the registration holder files paperwork...United obviously hasn't done so).

6) Todd Beamer (of "Let's Roll" fame) never really existed because he's not in the Social Security database (which has a disclaimer that their records may not be accurate or complete).

There are plenty more there. I'd suggest everybody check it out, for a grin or two if for no other reason.
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praxiz Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 06:56 AM
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9. Clinton conspiracies

The serial-rapist, serial-murder charges regarding Bill Clinton
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 07:00 AM
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10. Ahhh! Good one.
Haven't heard those in a while...I'd forgotten about them.
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DelawareValleyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:13 AM
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19. Or that Clinton
had Vince Foster murdered.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 07:42 AM
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11. About your first one
I never heard the missile theory before, but I was watching the video of the first plane hitting one time and caught something strange on it. At first it looked like something hit the building right below the plane just before the plane hit. I showed it to some people who saw the same thing. I found this clip here, check it out and see if you see something that flashes before the plane hits. I'm not saying it is a missile, but I wonder what it is.
http://www.september-11th.us/Video-14.html
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mrboba1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 07:54 AM
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13. It could easily be
glass shattering from the air/sound pressure or more likely the sun reflecting off of the plane & window into the camera lens. Light into cameras play very funny tricks sometimes - they don't always show reality to a T.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 07:59 AM
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14. Could be
I didn't think of that. The thing is, I didn't notice the flashes the other time I was watching the video. When I first saw it, it looked like a puff of smoke, then the plane hits. Thanks for the input.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:34 AM
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22. There are two versions of the video. One has been "enhanced".
That's not a wild claim, it's admitted by both sides. The CTists say that the "enhancement" just makes the flash that was already there clearer (or, alternately, they claim that the non-flash version was "edited" by the FBI).
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:47 AM
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25. Interesting
I wish I had taped all that shit when it was happening. So many things have taken place in the last 3 years.
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mrboba1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:28 AM
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20. Wow!
I just ducked in there to see what you were talking about - you are quite brave? (is that the word I'm looking for?) to hang out in there and debunk these. I just read the thread about the shadows on the plane being the pod and the spray being quite visible - "it's there, you just have to want to see it."

yikes.

:thumbsup: to you!
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:32 AM
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21. I"m an air traffic controller and I popped in there quite a while ago
just to see what was being said. I know that most people don't really have any knowledge of the intricacies of what we do, but I was amazed at all of the blatant misconceptions so I started posting.

Now, I can't seem to leave. It's incredible what theories some people can cook up when they start with false premises.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 07:45 AM
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12. why is the LBJ one dumb?
Couldn't it be possible that LBJ had some hand, somewhere, in working with whoever did it?

I find it hard to believe that he was totally out of the loop, considering how powerful a Washington figure he was.

If the assasination happened today you can bet half of DU would think LBJ had something to do with it.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:02 AM
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15. I agree.
Also, if something happened today to anyone in this administration (as in any of the last few), you would have to think that someone else in the circle would know something.
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Dying Eagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:09 AM
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16. The history channel mini-series
"The men who killed Kennedy" made a good argument for the Government taking out JFK.

Plus the movie JFK was quite compelling also. On top of that the the assassination committee of the late 1970's report that suggests that the audio take clearly had a 4th shot in it.
Its hard to ignore the evidence that LHO was not thew lone gunmen.

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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 09:48 AM
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36. It's dumb because there is zero evidence that he was involved...
...it means that anyone can come up with enough hypothesis and circumstansial evidence to implicate anyone.

Saying that LBJ is a "powerful Washington figure" is not evidence. It's the same logic that Freepers use when they share Clinton rape/murder conspiracies.
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DelawareValleyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:09 AM
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17. Google "Gemstone File"
Strange stuff
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:11 AM
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18. I would say the 'Tony Blair is a sleeper agent'
but, I'm not entirely sure that is dumb. Know what I mean?
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:46 AM
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24. Kurt Cobain was murdered.
Because he was going to divorce Courtney Love and retire from the music industry, hence breaking her heart and costing promoters millions.
For as much as I despise her, I always thought this conspiracy was unfair to Courtney. Yes, she played the widow card in public perhaps a bit too much, but still...
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:52 AM
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26. I don't think Courtney was involved, but there are some odd discrepancies.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:53 AM
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28. The police are aware of inconsistencies - not sure it was suicide.
I don't know that she was involved, but I certainly wouldn't dismiss the possibility.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:52 AM
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27. The earth is hollow
and lizard people live there, only coming here to rule over us.

Is that a David Icke thing?
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mrboba1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:55 AM
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30. You mean like this?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 09:03 AM
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31. Yup exactly
You know, pilots have flown over the 'openings'... the lizard people coerce them into keeping it all secret!
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:54 AM
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29. Ayrton Senna's car was sabotaged
by some Williams crewmember, paid by Fravio Briatore so Schumacher would be champion. (1994)
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 09:38 AM
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32. A Rumor from the Arab Street
September 11: Al Gore's Revenge
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 09:46 AM
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33. Paul McCartney died in the 60s and was replaced by look-alike
The man we know as Paul McCartney is actually named Billy Sheers. The Beatles left clues in their lyrics and album covers.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 09:47 AM
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35. What's so dumb about that.
The Walrus WAS Paul, man. Think about that. Huh?
28 IF dude. 28 IF. ;)
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 09:47 AM
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34. Freemasontry...
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 09:52 AM
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37. Any NRA propaganda, for one.....
The "murder" of Vince Foster,

Neil Armstrong encountered aliens on the moon, but NASA covered it up (I SWEAR i've heard this one before.)

"New World Order" is going to take all our guns away (remember when the NWO took everybody's guns away in the mid-90's? Me neither.)

Any freeper speculation about Hillary Clinton.....

Russia or the Mob was behind the JFK hit (It was the CIA...come on, just admit it)

Sirhan Sirhan did it alone.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 09:57 AM
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38. goofy conspiracy theories
1.) LIHOP/MIHOP
2.) cabals - illuminati, the masons, skull & bones, trilateral commission
3.) hollow earth
4.) UFOs at Roswell/Area 51
5.) JFK assassination
6.) MK Ultra
7.) Flouride in the water
8.) Iodized salt in India
9.) Car that runs on water
10.) The Philadelphia Experiment
11.) Bigfoot
12.) Loch Ness Monster
13.) The Clinton "death list"
14.) Wellstone plane crash
15.) Shroud of Turin

I could go on but this should provide enough fuel for people to come out of the woodwork.
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 12:35 AM
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40. "It's a well known fact, sonny Jim
that there's a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, known as the Pentaveret, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers, and meet triannually at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as 'The Meadows.'"

"So who's in this Pentaveret?"

"The Queen, the Vatican, the Gettys, the Rothschilds, and Colonel Sanders before he went tits up. Oh, I hated the Colonel, with his wee beady eyes and that smug look on his face -- 'Ooh, you're gonna buy my chicken! Ooh'"

"Dad, how can you hate . . . the Colonel?"

"Because he puts an addictive chemical in his chicken that makes you crave it fortnightly smart ass!"

Quote from "So I Married an Axe Murderer"
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AlFrankenFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 01:12 AM
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41. I'm sorry to my friend, but he thinks
All politicians and the Black Eyed Peas are reptilians, whatever they are.
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