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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 10:16 PM
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the ultimate in fundie nutcase sites
I've seen some beauties, but it's tough to top this one: www.jesus-is-lord.com
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Doug Decker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 10:23 PM
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1. I think I've seen worse...
at www.godhatesfags.com. Although, that may not be a strictly fundie site, so it may be apples and oranges.

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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 10:24 PM
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2. Yuck. But I can top it.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 10:25 PM
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3. Too much fun
An obvious nut case, with no notion of HTML.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 10:39 PM
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4. One of the best red herring arguments I have ever seen are on that site..
They have an 8th grade examination, that yeah I'll admit is hard as hell, under the evolution is bogus section

"This is an 8th grade exam from 1895. The Federalist Papers were first published in regular newspapers in 1787 for those with an 8th grade education--can you read them easily? Probably not. People are not progressing. Licentiousness is not progression, it's evil. People are so brainwashed they can't even discern right from wrong--and get mad if somebody tries to tell 'em the truth.)"

:wtf:
This doesn't prove evolution but it certainly doesn't DISPROVE it, all it proves is that our public schools stink now. But whatever, go back in time and ask that 1895 child to send an e-mail, and see what kind of blank stares you get. Times change and so do education standards...we grasp the concept of advanced medical procedures, we figured out how to cure polio and fly airplanes. Thats something people didn't know how to do in 1895...I guess you could say our broad spectrum of knowledge has "evolved" over the last 110 years???
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 11:10 PM
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6. I use a similar argument
When people talk about "God being taken out of school." They always point to ACT or SAT scores (forget which) going down since then, and I tell them that in the 60s was when all schools started having students take those tests so it wasn't just the lilly-white schools with all the money that had students taking them. Not to downgrade schools that are primarily black or even poor whites, but no matter what conservatives say, throwing money at schools helps them. I then tell them that scores have pretty consistently been rising since schools of all social strata have been taking the tests.

I then start listing all the great things that have happened since "God was taken out of school" - we've gone to the moon, computers power makes a quantum leap forward on a pretty regular basis, we have reliable hybrid cars, medical advancements, etc. I say, listing the good things since God was taken out of school makes as much since as listing the bad things since as much as you would like to, you can't really tie the removal of God to anything bad or good. Causality doesn't equal causation.

And then just to zing them, I tell them, "You know high school graduation was up; enrollment in college was up; abortion rates were at record lows; church attendance was way up, and crime was way down during Clinton's terms. My theory is that a robust economy contributes to these things since parents make better income letting their kids stay in and continue in their schooling; women see more opportunity in their life and make better choices about sex - plus with record low unemployment rates, even teens were in high demand for jobs so they didn't have as much time to do the nasty; not as many people have to work on Sundays to make ends meet (church); less of a reason to commit crimes, etc."

Now whether or not I'm actually right in my hypotheses doesn't matter. They go away none too pleased. And getting them to go away was always my primary goal. :)

TlalocW
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 10:59 PM
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5. Been there, and...
Edited on Fri Aug-06-04 11:00 PM by TreasonousBastard
life is far too short to wade through all that rambling.

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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 11:33 PM
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7. right on the front page
its says that the King James version is the only true version of the Bible. But EVERY RELIGIOUS SCHOLAR can tell you, the King James version is the one that deviates the MOST from the original, as the titular king added all sorts of crazy stuff, like "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live"

:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat
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anti_shrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 11:37 PM
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8. Proving that no one is all bad....
http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/murdoch.htm

They hate Rupert Murdoch too. Granted, for entirely different reasons, but it's a start.
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